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StarTech 4PORT PCIE USB 3.0 CONTROLLER CARD PEXUSB3S44V - Used on ebay.co.uk

Tracey Gardner
 


Earlier this month I flagged up some Startech 4 port USB cards (as recommended by Simon) that were for sale on ebay.co.uk.
I've just come to have my cards fitted and unfortunately we've discovered that the back planes of these are only about 75mm long/wide and therefore won't fit the slots in the back of my HP Z230 tower pc as they are too short.
I already have one of these cards fitted to another HP Z230 and the back plane on that card measures approx.115mm.
The back planes are only secured to the card by two screws so presumably it would be a straightforward job to change the backplanes for larger ones if I can get them from Startech.
I will contact Startech tomorrow to see if they can supply the larger backplanes.
Have any other buyers found this problem?
 
73s Tracey G5VU


 
George Smythe
 

Startech ships them with both brackets.  [ https://www.startech.com/en-us/cards-adapters/pexusb3s44v ]  From Ebay ... YMMV.  Can't hurt to ask, but they will likely have to charge you ... plus shipping.

George [KB2GSM]

On Sun, Mar 26, 2023, 09:10 Tracey Gardner via groups.io <tracey.gardner=talktalk.net@groups.io> wrote:

Earlier this month I flagged up some Startech 4 port USB cards (as recommended by Simon) that were for sale on ebay.co.uk.
I've just come to have my cards fitted and unfortunately we've discovered that the back planes of these are only about 75mm long/wide and therefore won't fit the slots in the back of my HP Z230 tower pc as they are too short.
I already have one of these cards fitted to another HP Z230 and the back plane on that card measures approx.115mm.
The back planes are only secured to the card by two screws so presumably it would be a straightforward job to change the backplanes for larger ones if I can get them from Startech.
I will contact Startech tomorrow to see if they can supply the larger backplanes.
Have any other buyers found this problem?
 
73s Tracey G5VU


 
Tracey Gardner
 

Thanks George.
It turns out that the seller was somewhat disingenuous as I have now discovered that he was aware that these cards were fitted with low profile/half-height installation brackets but omitted to mention that fact when selling them.
 
73s Tracey
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: George Smythe <jethawk@...>
Sent: 26/03/2023 17:23:35
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] StarTech 4PORT PCIE USB 3.0 CONTROLLER CARD PEXUSB3S44V - Used on ebay.co.uk
Startech ships them with both brackets.  [ https://www.startech.com/en-us/cards-adapters/pexusb3s44v ]  From Ebay ... YMMV.  Can't hurt to ask, but they will likely have to charge you ... plus shipping.

George [KB2GSM]

 
martinbradford2001
 

The picture on ebay did show the card as it is. I've already spoken to Startech and they are unable to supply full height plates. I'm planning on making up a plate from ally sheet.

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Martin
G8FXC
Brian Morrison
 

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 17:10:07 +0100
"Tracey Gardner via groups.io" <tracey.gardner@...>
wrote:


Earlier this month I flagged up some Startech 4 port USB cards (as
recommended by Simon) that were for sale on ebay.co.uk.
I've just come to have my cards fitted and unfortunately we've
discovered that the back planes of these are only about 75mm
long/wide and therefore won't fit the slots in the back of my HP Z230
tower pc as they are too short.
I'm a bit surprised that you can fit 4 USB B ports along a 75mm back
plate, all my 4 port cards have the 115mm height plates fitted already.

--

Brian G8SEZ
jdow
 

Getting blank back plates is very easy. Pop the back plate on the good one off to use as a pattern for the holes. Take it all to your friendly neighborhood machine tool hacker and have fun with it.

That said, the card does have a lot of slots on it and a socket for additional power from the PSU. If not, you may not have the right cards.

{^_^}

On 20230326 09:10:07, Tracey Gardner via groups.io wrote:


Earlier this month I flagged up some Startech 4 port USB cards (as recommended by Simon) that were for sale on ebay.co.uk.
I've just come to have my cards fitted and unfortunately we've discovered that the back planes of these are only about 75mm long/wide and therefore won't fit the slots in the back of my HP Z230 tower pc as they are too short.
I already have one of these cards fitted to another HP Z230 and the back plane on that card measures approx.115mm.
The back planes are only secured to the card by two screws so presumably it would be a straightforward job to change the backplanes for larger ones if I can get them from Startech.
I will contact Startech tomorrow to see if they can supply the larger backplanes.
Have any other buyers found this problem?
 
73s Tracey G5VU


 
martinbradford2001
 

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 05:27 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that you can fit 4 USB B ports along a 75mm back
plate, all my 4 port cards have the 115mm height plates fitted already.

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Brian G8SEZ
The USB sockets are mounted at right angles to the more usual orientation.

Martin g8fxc
 
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Martin
G8FXC
Tracey Gardner
 

 
I do have the correct cards, it's just that they come from Startech with both a full height and a low profile plate and the additional power socket for supplying up to 900mA per port.
My cards are pulls from industrial pcs which had the low profile plate fitted.
I'm thinking of taking the cheap skate route of extending the existing plate by super gluing part of a blank plate onto it.
It only has to retain the card in place.
 
73s Tracey G5VU
 

----- Original Message -----
From: jdow <jdow@...>
Sent: 28/03/2023 02:54:59
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] StarTech 4PORT PCIE USB 3.0 CONTROLLER CARD PEXUSB3S44V - Used on ebay.co.uk

Getting blank back plates is very easy. Pop the back plate on the good one off to use as a pattern for the holes. Take it all to your friendly neighborhood machine tool hacker and have fun with it.

That said, the card does have a lot of slots on it and a socket for additional power from the PSU. If not, you may not have the right cards.

{^_^}
martinbradford2001
 

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 03:09 PM, Tracey Gardner wrote:
 
I do have the correct cards, it's just that they come from Startech with both a full height and a low profile plate and the additional power socket for supplying up to 900mA per port.
My cards are pulls from industrial pcs which had the low profile plate fitted.
I'm thinking of taking the cheap skate route of extending the existing plate by super gluing part of a blank plate onto it.
It only has to retain the card in place.
 
73s Tracey G5VU
 
...
Before you spend too much time at that, look carefully at the positioning of the PCB tongue on the card with respect to the bottom of the back-plate. I laid my USB card on top of an old network card with a full-height back plate fitted and it looks to me that the half-height back-plate extends further below the card than the full height plate. I have not got round to testing it yet, but I get the strong impression that the half-height plate will stop the card entering the socket properly in a full-height cage.
 
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Martin
G8FXC
jdow
 

You might get away with a blank slot cover. Cut the existing plate just above the bend. Cut the blank plate so that it exactly butts up against the cut on the existing plate. Use some of the left over material from the blank place to splice over the junction. If the plates will take solder use that. Otherwise try the superglue and treat it gentler than you think might be necessary.

{^_^}

On 20230328 07:09:33, Tracey Gardner via groups.io wrote:

 
I do have the correct cards, it's just that they come from Startech with both a full height and a low profile plate and the additional power socket for supplying up to 900mA per port.
My cards are pulls from industrial pcs which had the low profile plate fitted.
I'm thinking of taking the cheap skate route of extending the existing plate by super gluing part of a blank plate onto it.
It only has to retain the card in place.
 
73s Tracey G5VU
 
----- Original Message -----
From: jdow <jdow@...>
Sent: 28/03/2023 02:54:59
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] StarTech 4PORT PCIE USB 3.0 CONTROLLER CARD PEXUSB3S44V - Used on ebay.co.uk

Getting blank back plates is very easy. Pop the back plate on the good one off to use as a pattern for the holes. Take it all to your friendly neighborhood machine tool hacker and have fun with it.

That said, the card does have a lot of slots on it and a socket for additional power from the PSU. If not, you may not have the right cards.

{^_^}
jdow
 

A file can fix that.

{^_^}

On 20230328 08:01:06, martinbradford2001 wrote:

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 03:09 PM, Tracey Gardner wrote:
 
I do have the correct cards, it's just that they come from Startech with both a full height and a low profile plate and the additional power socket for supplying up to 900mA per port.
My cards are pulls from industrial pcs which had the low profile plate fitted.
I'm thinking of taking the cheap skate route of extending the existing plate by super gluing part of a blank plate onto it.
It only has to retain the card in place.
 
73s Tracey G5VU
 
...
Before you spend too much time at that, look carefully at the positioning of the PCB tongue on the card with respect to the bottom of the back-plate. I laid my USB card on top of an old network card with a full-height back plate fitted and it looks to me that the half-height back-plate extends further below the card than the full height plate. I have not got round to testing it yet, but I get the strong impression that the half-height plate will stop the card entering the socket properly in a full-height cage.
 
--
Martin
G8FXC

Alan G4ZFQ
 

On 29/03/2023 07:53, jdow wrote:
try the superglue and treat it gentler than you think might be necessary.
Yes, I have my doubts about superglue.
The stresses of using the plugs and possible movement of the cables make me think small bolts are the best answer.
Or drill matching holes and use epoxy glue to form resin rivets, better pop rivets.

Alan
martinbradford2001
 

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 09:35 AM, Alan G4ZFQ wrote:
...
Or drill matching holes and use epoxy glue to form resin rivets, better
pop rivets.

Alan
I had been intending to use pop rivets but when I noticed the difference in alignment between the high and low profile plates, I came to the conclusion that it was probably not worth the effort.  When I have a spare half hour or so, I'll carve a replacement out of aluminium sheet.I had been intending to use a backplate sourced off ebay, but then realised that it still needs to bolt to the card and the plates you can buy are just intended for blanking unused slots - they do not have the additional metal down the side to take a screw to attach to the card...
 
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Martin
G8FXC
jdow
 

On 20230329 08:50:14, martinbradford2001 wrote:
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 09:35 AM, Alan G4ZFQ wrote:
...
Or drill matching holes and use epoxy glue to form resin rivets, better
pop rivets.

Alan
I had been intending to use pop rivets but when I noticed the difference in alignment between the high and low profile plates, I came to the conclusion that it was probably not worth the effort.  When I have a spare half hour or so, I'll carve a replacement out of aluminium sheet.I had been intending to use a backplate sourced off ebay, but then realised that it still needs to bolt to the card and the plates you can buy are just intended for blanking unused slots - they do not have the additional metal down the side to take a screw to attach to the card...
 
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Martin
G8FXC

That is why you take a blank plate and use it to make a splice tor the upper part of the card.

{o.o}
Chris
 

I’ve “repurposed” backing plates from boards no longer in use.

I you don’t have a collection of dead and obsolete boards, some sources are:
Charity shops (we have one called “Goodwill” in north america)
Pawn shops
Independent computer shops (IMO the big chains are hopeless for anything except emptying victims wallets).

or even the side of the road…


Christopher
VA3ITV
Dennis Matzen
 

I needed a blank filler once and went to one of the local PC repair shops and asked if they had a box of them. They came out with a box that I could rummage through and find what I needed. And they did not want anything for it. 
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Dennis
KA6FUB
jdow
 

I must have close to a hundred around here.

{o.o}

On 20230330 16:23:20, Dennis Matzen wrote:

I needed a blank filler once and went to one of the local PC repair shops and asked if they had a box of them. They came out with a box that I could rummage through and find what I needed. And they did not want anything for it. 
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Dennis
KA6FUB

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