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EB4APL
 

Hi,

A friend gave me as a gift a RSP1 clone. I have it working with SDR
Play's SDR Uno and also with SDR Console, but I would like to try it
with SDR#. Does anybody know how to make it work?.

Thank you and I apologize for this OT, I tried it before in the SDR#
group, but the message was filtered out.

Ignacio EB4APL


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Ian Kelly
 

It won't work with installations of SDR Sharp released in the last few years now. If you can find an older version of the software, you might be able to get it to work. I'm sure others will be able to fill in details of the last software version that worked with SDR Play SDRs, where the older install files might be downloaded and how to get it up and running.



Ian Kelly

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, 20:28 EB4APL, <eb4apl@...> wrote:
Hi,

A friend gave me as a gift a RSP1 clone. I have it working with SDR
Play's SDR Uno and also with SDR Console, but I would like to try it
with SDR#. Does anybody know how to make it work?.

Thank you and I apologize for this OT, I tried it before in the SDR#
group, but the message was filtered out.

Ignacio EB4APL


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Dirk
 

This is possible only with an older SDR# version, that still has ExtIO support.
As far as I know, the last SDR# version with ExtIO support was 1361.
martinbradford2001
 

Do a web search for "sdrsharp" - it's open source, derived from SDR# and I've just installed a fairly recently built version that works with RSP1A.

Martin G8FXC 
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jdow
 

If it is really derived from SDRSharp, the executable's real name, then it is illegal. The source was made public but copyrighted.

{^_^}

On 20221118 14:11:46, martinbradford2001 wrote:

Do a web search for "sdrsharp" - it's open source, derived from SDR# and I've just installed a fairly recently built version that works with RSP1A.

Martin G8FXC 
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Miguel de Castro
 

Prueba con el SDR++, es muy parecido al SDR#
EB4APL
 

Thank you to all who responded. Now I have some things to do.

El 19/11/2022 a las 10:40, Miguel de Castro via groups.io escribió:
Prueba con el SDR++, es muy parecido al SDR#
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EB4APL
 

If it is the case I agree with you 100%. I suppose that the name is different but this does not solve the copyright issue.

Ignacio EB4APL


El 19/11/2022 a las 4:17, jdow escribió:

If it is really derived from SDRSharp, the executable's real name, then it is illegal. The source was made public but copyrighted.

{^_^}

On 20221118 14:11:46, martinbradford2001 wrote:
Do a web search for "sdrsharp" - it's open source, derived from SDR# and I've just installed a fairly recently built version that works with RSP1A.

Martin G8FXC 
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EB4APL
 

Hola Miguel, podrías mandarme un PM a eb4apl@...?

Ignacio


El 19/11/2022 a las 10:40, Miguel de Castro via groups.io escribió:
Prueba con el SDR++, es muy parecido al SDR#
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jdow
 

Just to clarify, Youssef's program is SDRSharp.exe. So you MAY find a very old version of it somebody has kept around. But you SHOULD NOT find something else named SDRSharp. (SDR# is used by many because it is written in C# (C Sharp) and it saves typing. There is an SDR++ around. Some people like it. I've never tried it.

{^_^}

On 20221119 07:18:17, EB4APL wrote:

If it is the case I agree with you 100%. I suppose that the name is different but this does not solve the copyright issue.

Ignacio EB4APL


El 19/11/2022 a las 4:17, jdow escribió:

If it is really derived from SDRSharp, the executable's real name, then it is illegal. The source was made public but copyrighted.

{^_^}

On 20221118 14:11:46, martinbradford2001 wrote:
Do a web search for "sdrsharp" - it's open source, derived from SDR# and I've just installed a fairly recently built version that works with RSP1A.

Martin G8FXC 
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martinbradford2001
 

My mistake - I should have said "SDRSharper" - see https://github.com/SDRSharpR/SDRSharper ...

I discovered it via a link on the RTL-SDR web site. They did subsequently revise the post to describe it as an illegal copyright infringement of Youssef's code, but another contributor countered that the last publicly released version of the SDR# code was released under a permissive licence which stated :

"Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
"Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to
permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to
the following conditions..."

The author did not release subsequent versions under the same permissive licence, but he could not change the licence on the previously released code retrospectively, so it would seem that SDRSharper is legal. 

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Zacharias Liangas
 

You will possibly get annoyed with this email but i wish to  notice  my experience with the SDRXX  derivation programs

At first I use all name sames  :

An old SDR# 1001361 that works properly with the Rsp1a this is a 6+ years old version  Any newer version is not working with RSP

I think that Sharper is much better than the old Sharp version I like its rich plugins  and the button like operation the mini oscilloscope not to notice the audio spectrum analyzer  among the interesting million goodies Also Low CPU (8%)

The Plus Plus [not a version] is also good but I still prefer the sharper among them

 

I think that these programs can do easier and simpler job than the SDRplay with lower noise than SDRConsole . 

 
George Stein - NJ3H
 

So where can I download sharper from? 


On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 11:15 AM, Zacharias Liangas via groups.io
<zliangas@...> wrote:

You will possibly get annoyed with this email but i wish to  notice  my experience with the SDRXX  derivation programs

At first I use all name sames  :

An old SDR# 1001361 that works properly with the Rsp1a this is a 6+ years old version  Any newer version is not working with RSP

I think that Sharper is much better than the old Sharp version I like its rich plugins  and the button like operation the mini oscilloscope not to notice the audio spectrum analyzer  among the interesting million goodies Also Low CPU (8%)

The Plus Plus [not a version] is also good but I still prefer the sharper among them

 

I think that these programs can do easier and simpler job than the SDRplay with lower noise than SDRConsole . 

 
martinbradford2001
 

I got my copy from here : Index of /s/sdr (qsl.net)

You can get the source code from the GitHUB I mentioned above, but it is dependent on quite a lot of external code and the compilation process was not at all clear...

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Mike Bott
 

Personally, I believe you are better off working with something that is under current development like SDR++ than what I believe to be an equally old version of SDR sharper.

Just do a Google Search on SDRsharper and see what comes up.

Just for the record, if this discussion/topic (SDRsharper) came up in a list that I owned or moderated, it would be deleted.  Heck, I probably would have deleted it at the mention of a cloned RSP1.   Just me I guess.  :)

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On 11/20/2022 17:16, George Stein - NJ3H via groups.io wrote:

So where can I download sharper from? 


On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 11:15 AM, Zacharias Liangas via groups.io

You will possibly get annoyed with this email but i wish to  notice  my experience with the SDRXX  derivation programs

At first I use all name sames  :

An old SDR# 1001361 that works properly with the Rsp1a this is a 6+ years old version  Any newer version is not working with RSP

I think that Sharper is much better than the old Sharp version I like its rich plugins  and the button like operation the mini oscilloscope not to notice the audio spectrum analyzer  among the interesting million goodies Also Low CPU (8%)

The Plus Plus [not a version] is also good but I still prefer the sharper among them

 

I think that these programs can do easier and simpler job than the SDRplay with lower noise than SDRConsole . 

 
martinbradford2001
 

P.S. - since this is a forum dedicated to SDRPlay devices - that version of SDRSharper does not include the RSP1x capability "out-of-the-box" - it is just a version of SDR# that retains the ability to use EXTIO libraries. You will have to install it, then copy the appropriate SDRPlay EXTIO library into the installation directory - then the radio menu will gain an entry for the RSP device...
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Zacharias Liangas
 

Just a simple question : If removing the  SDRPlay but keeping a copy of the API can still operate properly any non affiliated program that supports  this API ?
There was a KISS (keep it simple )program that supports RSP1a and shown in their webpage  but I also deleted it. Not worth of anything
jdow
 

Not dedicated to SDRPlay devices. This forum is related to SDR-Radio.com goodies from our beloved Simon. This includes such gems as SDRConsole, which goes amazingly far beyond SDRSharp(r), SDR++, and HDSDR.

{o.o}

On 20221120 14:38:38, martinbradford2001 wrote:

P.S. - since this is a forum dedicated to SDRPlay devices - that version of SDRSharper does not include the RSP1x capability "out-of-the-box" - it is just a version of SDR# that retains the ability to use EXTIO libraries. You will have to install it, then copy the appropriate SDRPlay EXTIO library into the installation directory - then the radio menu will gain an entry for the RSP device...
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martinbradford2001
 

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:37 PM, Mike Bott wrote:
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Just for the record, if this discussion/topic (SDRsharper) came up in a list that I owned or moderated, it would be deleted.  Heck, I probably would have deleted it at the mention of a cloned RSP1.   Just me I guess.  :)

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Mike


I think it is a valid topic to discuss. I also think there is a distinction between discussions of cloned hardware and discussions of SDRSharper. SDRPlay has never put the RSP hardware design in the Open Source world - they did make the mistake of publishing the design of one of their early units as part of the technical documentation and that has been cloned - it seems quite clear that those clones are copyright violations.

SDR# has been published as Open Source software in the past. The author then closed it off when he continued the development process - that is his right, but he can't retrospectively revoke the permissive licence on the earlier versions. Unless SDRSharper is based on stolen code that was never released to the public, it is hard to see how the author has violated the copyright!

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G8FXC
jdow
 

Not technically released as open source.

It was released with its source code available for reading but not copied with a full copyright statement to that effect. Copies were not allowed. And sharing code compiled from that open source is illegal.

I have it. I've fiddled with it for myself. I've never released an executable version of that code. I did build an rtlsdr driver designed to be compatible with Youssef's code and speak to the rtlsdr.dll API. It is too out of date to do anything with it today even if I wanted to. I will note that Youssef and I slightly disagree with where the copying begins. Compatible user interface generally has one good way to accomplish the goals. And SDRs always tend to have FFT's involved in the design. So the presence of the FFT is no big deal. But presence of a clever unusual use of the FFT data beyond display is not copying. And so forth. Features I see in multiple (old) SDRs that are unrelated become copyable as far as I am concerned. Lawyers may disagree. That is why I have fallen back out of trying to do good for groups of people. No good deed goes unpunished, particularly in United Socialist America's "WOKE" nightmare.

{^_^}

On 20221121 01:50:58, martinbradford2001 wrote:

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:37 PM, Mike Bott wrote:
...

Just for the record, if this discussion/topic (SDRsharper) came up in a list that I owned or moderated, it would be deleted.  Heck, I probably would have deleted it at the mention of a cloned RSP1.   Just me I guess.  :)

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Mike


I think it is a valid topic to discuss. I also think there is a distinction between discussions of cloned hardware and discussions of SDRSharper. SDRPlay has never put the RSP hardware design in the Open Source world - they did make the mistake of publishing the design of one of their early units as part of the technical documentation and that has been cloned - it seems quite clear that those clones are copyright violations.

SDR# has been published as Open Source software in the past. The author then closed it off when he continued the development process - that is his right, but he can't retrospectively revoke the permissive licence on the earlier versions. Unless SDRSharper is based on stolen code that was never released to the public, it is hard to see how the author has violated the copyright!

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G8FXC

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