Remote control of an antenna switch ???


David Slipper
 

Hi, I have a couple of SDR dongles each with a USB controlled antenna switch on a remote SDR-Radio server and at the moment I have a FreeBasic program controlling the switches.

Is there some way to integrate the switch control within SDR-Radio "Server" ???

Regards,
Dave


Siegfried Jackstien
 

Some usb switch control?? We only have usb for ptt (for now)...
I am waiting that simon adds a band data out via usb... Seems to be similar to your antenna selection via usb...
Simon... When do we get a user setable (and maybe band depending) table for these 4 8 or 16 channel relais boards??
So a user can select antennas or amp chain or filters or whatever via usb out
No no.. Grabbing cat qrg does not work!! (only usable for shortwave)... Not usable for a lime or pluto to select the higher bands and if needed switch in additional converters (say for 3cm..or for 24ghz or higher).. 
You already HAVE that table (now contains drive and gain settings per band if you select track tx frequency) 
Add some more blocks into that table to select rx and tx usb relais to be set or reset and we have it.. 
If user then connects an antenna relay, a rx tx relay.. A preamp with filter or whatever.. Is on users end.. At first we need a digital data out (a logic signal) 
And those multichannel relay boards seem to be the easiest solution cause you know how to use them
Greetz sigi dg9bfc 


Am 10.10.2022 16:44 schrieb David Slipper <softfoot@...>:

Hi, I have a couple of SDR dongles each with a USB controlled antenna
switch on a remote SDR-Radio server and at the moment I have a FreeBasic
program controlling the switches.

Is there some way to integrate the switch control within SDR-Radio
"Server" ???

Regards,
Dave









David Slipper
 

I assume that that is a longer term part of the project.

Is there no way I can send a simple message over serial port to control an antenna relay from within SDR-Console ???

I can do it via a simple basic program but would much rather have some buttons or a pulldown list in SDR-Console todo that.

Dave

On 10/10/2022 16:08, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:

Some usb switch control?? We only have usb for ptt (for now)...
I am waiting that simon adds a band data out via usb... Seems to be similar to your antenna selection via usb...
Simon... When do we get a user setable (and maybe band depending) table for these 4 8 or 16 channel relais boards??
So a user can select antennas or amp chain or filters or whatever via usb out
No no.. Grabbing cat qrg does not work!! (only usable for shortwave)... Not usable for a lime or pluto to select the higher bands and if needed switch in additional converters (say for 3cm..or for 24ghz or higher).. 
You already HAVE that table (now contains drive and gain settings per band if you select track tx frequency) 
Add some more blocks into that table to select rx and tx usb relais to be set or reset and we have it.. 
If user then connects an antenna relay, a rx tx relay.. A preamp with filter or whatever.. Is on users end.. At first we need a digital data out (a logic signal) 
And those multichannel relay boards seem to be the easiest solution cause you know how to use them
Greetz sigi dg9bfc 


Am 10.10.2022 16:44 schrieb David Slipper <softfoot@...>:

Hi, I have a couple of SDR dongles each with a USB controlled antenna
switch on a remote SDR-Radio server and at the moment I have a FreeBasic
program controlling the switches.

Is there some way to integrate the switch control within SDR-Radio
"Server" ???

Regards,
Dave









Tom McKee K4ZAD
 

Perhaps it's just me, but this seems like asking way too much of Simon.

After all, it's the Software Defined Radio Console, not a SDRS Console - a Software Defined Radio Shack Console.


Tom    K4ZAD


Simon Brown
 

It'll have to happen when I support remote TX 🙁 .


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Tom McKee K4ZAD via groups.io <tom.m@...>
Sent: 11 December 2022 14:40
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Remote control of an antenna switch ???
 

Perhaps it's just me, but this seems like asking way too much of Simon.

After all, it's the Software Defined Radio Console, not a SDRS Console -
a Software Defined Radio Shack Console.


Tom    K4ZAD







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jdow
 

OK, speaking of remote control.... I got my hands on a near perfect condition Mackie MCU Pro remote control audio deck that speaks MIDI. It has eight sliders, eight rotary knobs, and 24 push buttons that could be dedicated to 8 receivers. It has a "master" slider that could be used as a receiver master or a slider control for TX. It has innumerable other buttons and a very nice rotary "tuning" control. The "nifty" feature is that each of these buttons and sliders can be controlled and positioned from external sources.


That means an interface control filter could be designed to read the MIDI and read tuning data sent from SDRC to keep SDRC and the deck in alignment, allowing either to be modified with the configuration tracking it all.


Your job, Master Simon, if you choose to do it, is to provide suitable remote control hooks into SDRC functions that can be both read and written to in an effort to provide a nice totally excessive remote control for the user. (I built this two way - actually three way with a mouse or touch screen) interface concept into the software "Gilderfluke & Company" use for setting up programs for animatronics sorts of devices.) Heh, I do tend to go overboard, don't I?


{^_-}   $350 or so for a $1300 deck I knew inside and out was too good to pass up.


On 20221211 21:25:29, Simon Brown wrote:

It'll have to happen when I support remote TX 🙁 .

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Tom McKee K4ZAD via groups.io <tom.m@...>
Sent: 11 December 2022 14:40
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Remote control of an antenna switch ???
 

Perhaps it's just me, but this seems like asking way too much of Simon.

After all, it's the Software Defined Radio Console, not a SDRS Console -
a Software Defined Radio Shack Console.


Tom    K4ZAD







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Siegfried Jackstien
 

sdrc speaks midi.. so at first use what we have .. then maybe ask for additional functions :-)

dg9bfc sigi

ps my deck came with a configuration soft so on a few buttons i could add autorepeat

Am 12.12.2022 um 06:42 schrieb jdow:

OK, speaking of remote control.... I got my hands on a near perfect condition Mackie MCU Pro remote control audio deck that speaks MIDI. It has eight sliders, eight rotary knobs, and 24 push buttons that could be dedicated to 8 receivers. It has a "master" slider that could be used as a receiver master or a slider control for TX. It has innumerable other buttons and a very nice rotary "tuning" control. The "nifty" feature is that each of these buttons and sliders can be controlled and positioned from external sources.


That means an interface control filter could be designed to read the MIDI and read tuning data sent from SDRC to keep SDRC and the deck in alignment, allowing either to be modified with the configuration tracking it all.


Your job, Master Simon, if you choose to do it, is to provide suitable remote control hooks into SDRC functions that can be both read and written to in an effort to provide a nice totally excessive remote control for the user. (I built this two way - actually three way with a mouse or touch screen) interface concept into the software "Gilderfluke & Company" use for setting up programs for animatronics sorts of devices.) Heh, I do tend to go overboard, don't I?


{^_-}   $350 or so for a $1300 deck I knew inside and out was too good to pass up.


On 20221211 21:25:29, Simon Brown wrote:
It'll have to happen when I support remote TX 🙁 .

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Tom McKee K4ZAD via groups.io <tom.m@...>
Sent: 11 December 2022 14:40
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Remote control of an antenna switch ???
 

Perhaps it's just me, but this seems like asking way too much of Simon.

After all, it's the Software Defined Radio Console, not a SDRS Console -
a Software Defined Radio Shack Console.


Tom    K4ZAD







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Simon Brown
 

No!

If I implement remote TRX then I must support USB boards just as I do locally.


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Siegfried Jackstien via groups.io <siegfried.jackstien@...>
Sent: 12 December 2022 07:29
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Remote control of an antenna switch ???
 

sdrc speaks midi.. so at first use what we have .. then maybe ask for additional functions :-)

dg9bfc sigi

ps my deck came with a configuration soft so on a few buttons i could add autorepeat

Am 12.12.2022 um 06:42 schrieb jdow:

OK, speaking of remote control.... I got my hands on a near perfect condition Mackie MCU Pro remote control audio deck that speaks MIDI. It has eight sliders, eight rotary knobs, and 24 push buttons that could be dedicated to 8 receivers. It has a "master" slider that could be used as a receiver master or a slider control for TX. It has innumerable other buttons and a very nice rotary "tuning" control. The "nifty" feature is that each of these buttons and sliders can be controlled and positioned from external sources.


That means an interface control filter could be designed to read the MIDI and read tuning data sent from SDRC to keep SDRC and the deck in alignment, allowing either to be modified with the configuration tracking it all.


Your job, Master Simon, if you choose to do it, is to provide suitable remote control hooks into SDRC functions that can be both read and written to in an effort to provide a nice totally excessive remote control for the user. (I built this two way - actually three way with a mouse or touch screen) interface concept into the software "Gilderfluke & Company" use for setting up programs for animatronics sorts of devices.) Heh, I do tend to go overboard, don't I?


{^_-}   $350 or so for a $1300 deck I knew inside and out was too good to pass up.


On 20221211 21:25:29, Simon Brown wrote:
It'll have to happen when I support remote TX 🙁 .

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Tom McKee K4ZAD via groups.io <tom.m@...>
Sent: 11 December 2022 14:40
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Remote control of an antenna switch ???
 

Perhaps it's just me, but this seems like asking way too much of Simon.

After all, it's the Software Defined Radio Console, not a SDRS Console -
a Software Defined Radio Shack Console.


Tom    K4ZAD







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Siegfried Jackstien
 

you have usb relay board implemented (now only ptt out) ... a band data out over those boards would be perfect (and then auto-select antenna by band??)

also for selectig filters, preamps, poweramps

just thinking

dg9bfc sigi

ps if those boards are then switched from a local or from a remote (server/client) instance should be near the same thing .. not?


Am 12.12.2022 um 08:43 schrieb Simon Brown:

No!

If I implement remote TRX then I must support USB boards just as I do locally.

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Siegfried Jackstien via groups.io <siegfried.jackstien@...>
Sent: 12 December 2022 07:29
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Remote control of an antenna switch ???
 

sdrc speaks midi.. so at first use what we have .. then maybe ask for additional functions :-)

dg9bfc sigi

ps my deck came with a configuration soft so on a few buttons i could add autorepeat

Am 12.12.2022 um 06:42 schrieb jdow:

OK, speaking of remote control.... I got my hands on a near perfect condition Mackie MCU Pro remote control audio deck that speaks MIDI. It has eight sliders, eight rotary knobs, and 24 push buttons that could be dedicated to 8 receivers. It has a "master" slider that could be used as a receiver master or a slider control for TX. It has innumerable other buttons and a very nice rotary "tuning" control. The "nifty" feature is that each of these buttons and sliders can be controlled and positioned from external sources.


That means an interface control filter could be designed to read the MIDI and read tuning data sent from SDRC to keep SDRC and the deck in alignment, allowing either to be modified with the configuration tracking it all.


Your job, Master Simon, if you choose to do it, is to provide suitable remote control hooks into SDRC functions that can be both read and written to in an effort to provide a nice totally excessive remote control for the user. (I built this two way - actually three way with a mouse or touch screen) interface concept into the software "Gilderfluke & Company" use for setting up programs for animatronics sorts of devices.) Heh, I do tend to go overboard, don't I?


{^_-}   $350 or so for a $1300 deck I knew inside and out was too good to pass up.


On 20221211 21:25:29, Simon Brown wrote:
It'll have to happen when I support remote TX 🙁 .

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Tom McKee K4ZAD via groups.io <tom.m@...>
Sent: 11 December 2022 14:40
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Remote control of an antenna switch ???
 

Perhaps it's just me, but this seems like asking way too much of Simon.

After all, it's the Software Defined Radio Console, not a SDRS Console -
a Software Defined Radio Shack Console.


Tom    K4ZAD







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jdow
 

You miss the point. SDRC can feed back the frequency it is set to locally via MIDI to the deck so its display can be updated and control positions can be updated as appropriate. The controls need mapping to work with SDRC. They are not all simple MIDI notes.


{^_^}


On 20221211 23:29:50, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:

sdrc speaks midi.. so at first use what we have .. then maybe ask for additional functions :-)

dg9bfc sigi

ps my deck came with a configuration soft so on a few buttons i could add autorepeat

Am 12.12.2022 um 06:42 schrieb jdow:

OK, speaking of remote control.... I got my hands on a near perfect condition Mackie MCU Pro remote control audio deck that speaks MIDI. It has eight sliders, eight rotary knobs, and 24 push buttons that could be dedicated to 8 receivers. It has a "master" slider that could be used as a receiver master or a slider control for TX. It has innumerable other buttons and a very nice rotary "tuning" control. The "nifty" feature is that each of these buttons and sliders can be controlled and positioned from external sources.


That means an interface control filter could be designed to read the MIDI and read tuning data sent from SDRC to keep SDRC and the deck in alignment, allowing either to be modified with the configuration tracking it all.


Your job, Master Simon, if you choose to do it, is to provide suitable remote control hooks into SDRC functions that can be both read and written to in an effort to provide a nice totally excessive remote control for the user. (I built this two way - actually three way with a mouse or touch screen) interface concept into the software "Gilderfluke & Company" use for setting up programs for animatronics sorts of devices.) Heh, I do tend to go overboard, don't I?


{^_-}   $350 or so for a $1300 deck I knew inside and out was too good to pass up.


On 20221211 21:25:29, Simon Brown wrote:
It'll have to happen when I support remote TX 🙁 .

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Tom McKee K4ZAD via groups.io <tom.m@...>
Sent: 11 December 2022 14:40
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Remote control of an antenna switch ???
 

Perhaps it's just me, but this seems like asking way too much of Simon.

After all, it's the Software Defined Radio Console, not a SDRS Console -
a Software Defined Radio Shack Console.


Tom    K4ZAD







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