[Off Topic] New Hardware


Simon Brown
 


Tom Crosbie G6PZZ
 

My first car was a Mk1, 1970 RCA 812 H in Silver Fox metallic paint. Mainly primer when I got it 1975


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Jerry Lofstead W3CDE
 

Looks great

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:57 AM Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:


TOM - K2TC
 

My first car was a 1972 FORD CAPRI, dark green…. Dug it out of a neighbors snow pile that I affectionately called the ICE CAR.

 

My grandfather- WA2JVU had a massive DC Variable power supply that we cranked up to 18V to free up the frozen starter motor. These were imports at the time, mine was from Germany if I remember correctly.. Inline 4 – 122cu in

 

First Radio I install in it was a MOTOROLA mobile radio with a tube in the final…on VHF

 

Tom – K2TC

 

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Looks great

 

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:57 AM Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:


Jim Smith G0OFE
 

haha.. I had a black one of those back in 89-91 !!



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On 22/03/2023 13:57, Simon Brown wrote:


Tom Crosbie G6PZZ
 

And here is mine complete with the late Mrs Crosbie, who I’m pleased to say outlived the car by some decades!

Jean is covering a large patch of missing paint!

After I pranged it into the towbar of a transit, I sold it to someone who made the necessary repairs and resprayed it red and gave it a black vinyl roof.

Looked great

 

 

Tom

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Smith G0OFE
Sent: 22 March 2023 18:58
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haha.. I had a black one of those back in 89-91 !!



 

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On 22/03/2023 13:57, Simon Brown wrote:


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Siegfried Jackstien
 

i had a granada 2.3l gls (with a 5.5m milwhip and autotunerat the base)

dg9bfc sigi


Am 22.03.2023 um 19:57 schrieb Jim Smith G0OFE:

haha.. I had a black one of those back in 89-91 !!



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On 22/03/2023 13:57, Simon Brown wrote:

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Max
 

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 01:57 PM, Simon Brown wrote:
Ford Capri set for return after electric makeover
I think I must be getting old (what am I talking about..... I AM old!) but I get more excited these days about thinking how to implement a battery to run my house then having a battery in my car.

Of course that may also be something to do with not wanting to leave the house much these days due to all the half-wits we are forced to share the road with!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-65008705

How do they do it?!!

Max


jdow
 

Batteries in cars are going to start killing people in severe winter storms noticeably more than gasoline powered vehicles. You can carry an extra couple gallons of gasoline in the trunk for emergencies. With batteries - you are stuck and you do not move until towed out. (And where on Earth will all that electricity come from. The grid here in California is already on the edge.)

{^_^}

On 20230322 15:52:56, Max wrote:

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 01:57 PM, Simon Brown wrote:
Ford Capri set for return after electric makeover
I think I must be getting old (what am I talking about..... I AM old!) but I get more excited these days about thinking how to implement a battery to run my house then having a battery in my car.

Of course that may also be something to do with not wanting to leave the house much these days due to all the half-wits we are forced to share the road with!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-65008705

How do they do it?!!

Max


John K5MO
 

Hard no on any electric car for me, but  I do fondly recall the Capri's that were imported into the US. They wee nice looking cars.

John K5MO

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 6:53 PM Max <radiomax@...> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 01:57 PM, Simon Brown wrote:
Ford Capri set for return after electric makeover
I think I must be getting old (what am I talking about..... I AM old!) but I get more excited these days about thinking how to implement a battery to run my house then having a battery in my car.

Of course that may also be something to do with not wanting to leave the house much these days due to all the half-wits we are forced to share the road with!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-65008705

How do they do it?!!

Max


vince battle
 

Aman Sister!
it's like the old saying "don't worry about the mule going blind, just load the wagon". Us poor folks in California will holding the bag to pay for that new gird to recharge all of them E-Cars!


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of jdow <jdow@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:11 PM
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] [Off Topic] New Hardware
 

Batteries in cars are going to start killing people in severe winter storms noticeably more than gasoline powered vehicles. You can carry an extra couple gallons of gasoline in the trunk for emergencies. With batteries - you are stuck and you do not move until towed out. (And where on Earth will all that electricity come from. The grid here in California is already on the edge.)

{^_^}

On 20230322 15:52:56, Max wrote:
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 01:57 PM, Simon Brown wrote:
Ford Capri set for return after electric makeover
I think I must be getting old (what am I talking about..... I AM old!) but I get more excited these days about thinking how to implement a battery to run my house then having a battery in my car.

Of course that may also be something to do with not wanting to leave the house much these days due to all the half-wits we are forced to share the road with!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-65008705

How do they do it?!!

Max


Bjarne Mjelde
 

jdow,
your view on danger is challenged by everyday driving in the world's no. 1 EV country - which is also icy cold in winter. But it's a common misconception, I'll give you that.

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arcticdx.blogspot.com
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jdow
 

Volvo has shown its new electric excavators and construction site trucks. They are wonderful. But, I've no idea how the owner is going to do the equivalent of taking his F150 with a large fuel tank in the bed to the site to fuel his electric vehicles.


{o.o}


On 20230323 15:35:25, vince battle wrote:

Aman Sister!
it's like the old saying "don't worry about the mule going blind, just load the wagon". Us poor folks in California will holding the bag to pay for that new gird to recharge all of them E-Cars!


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of jdow <jdow@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:11 PM
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
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Batteries in cars are going to start killing people in severe winter storms noticeably more than gasoline powered vehicles. You can carry an extra couple gallons of gasoline in the trunk for emergencies. With batteries - you are stuck and you do not move until towed out. (And where on Earth will all that electricity come from. The grid here in California is already on the edge.)

{^_^}

On 20230322 15:52:56, Max wrote:
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 01:57 PM, Simon Brown wrote:
Ford Capri set for return after electric makeover
I think I must be getting old (what am I talking about..... I AM old!) but I get more excited these days about thinking how to implement a battery to run my house then having a battery in my car.

Of course that may also be something to do with not wanting to leave the house much these days due to all the half-wits we are forced to share the road with!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-65008705

How do they do it?!!

Max


jdow
 

You guys know how to handle it. We manage to have hundred car pile-ups that take a surprising amount of time to clean up. With the gasoline vehicles that run out of gas while waiting and trying to stay alive filling the tank lets the car drive itself home. Do you have a suitable mobile fast charger station? (The pile-ups happen in areas where people are not as used to driving in snow, usually.)

{o.o}

On 20230323 22:13:39, Bjarne Mjelde wrote:

jdow,
your view on danger is challenged by everyday driving in the world's no. 1 EV country - which is also icy cold in winter. But it's a common misconception, I'll give you that.

--
Bjarne Mjelde
arcticdx.blogspot.com
Mastodon: @Bjarne@...


 


Bjarne Mjelde
 

I don't understand the problem. If there is a pile-up EVs only use power for cabin heating, and it will last literally for days in modern cars. An ICE car needs to run on idle for heating, and during a proper snow storm there's also the risk of clogging the exhaust pipe which of course will kill anyone in the car from carbon monoxide. Has happened.
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arcticdx.blogspot.com
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Daniel Young
 

It's nonsense as to what will eventually become hybrids, a 1970 etc uk housing estate simply could not handle all electric. WPD now national grid told government this. 

Gains from smart meters and energy reduction, do not compensate for decades of under investment in nuclear power. Which the most dangerous place in uk is Sellafield. 

Then we have a poll tax situation where poor can't afford electric cars. 

I drive a £1500 diesel and pence per mile it is cheap, there is no way I plan to buy a new depreciating asset for £50-70k plus. 

Uk global emissions are maybe 2% and you can bet third world want modern convenience. 
The real way to fix this is third world investment and first world oversight on that investment to avoid corruption. 


On Fri, 24 Mar 2023, 06:27 Bjarne Mjelde, <bjarne.mjelde@...> wrote:
I don't understand the problem. If there is a pile-up EVs only use power for cabin heating, and it will last literally for days in modern cars. An ICE car needs to run on idle for heating, and during a proper snow storm there's also the risk of clogging the exhaust pipe which of course will kill anyone in the car from carbon monoxide. Has happened.
--
Bjarne Mjelde
arcticdx.blogspot.com
Mastodon: @Bjarne@...


 


Daniel Young
 


On Fri, 24 Mar 2023, 07:30 Daniel Young via groups.io, <somersetlevels=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
It's nonsense as to what will eventually become hybrids, a 1970 etc uk housing estate simply could not handle all electric. WPD now national grid told government this. 

Gains from smart meters and energy reduction, do not compensate for decades of under investment in nuclear power. Which the most dangerous place in uk is Sellafield. 

Then we have a poll tax situation where poor can't afford electric cars. 

I drive a £1500 diesel and pence per mile it is cheap, there is no way I plan to buy a new depreciating asset for £50-70k plus. 

Uk global emissions are maybe 2% and you can bet third world want modern convenience. 
The real way to fix this is third world investment and first world oversight on that investment to avoid corruption. 

On Fri, 24 Mar 2023, 06:27 Bjarne Mjelde, <bjarne.mjelde@...> wrote:
I don't understand the problem. If there is a pile-up EVs only use power for cabin heating, and it will last literally for days in modern cars. An ICE car needs to run on idle for heating, and during a proper snow storm there's also the risk of clogging the exhaust pipe which of course will kill anyone in the car from carbon monoxide. Has happened.
--
Bjarne Mjelde
arcticdx.blogspot.com
Mastodon: @Bjarne@...


 


jdow
 

That is a good points, thanks. It still bothers me. But, not as much. Let me riff a moment.

Here in California many people have cardboard shades cut to fit the shape of their front windows. They are used to minimize the heat load on the interior when the car is parked. (Utter digression related to typo I just made and corrected. I wonder if the Dutch typo "het" as "eht" or something like that. /digression) A nice set of such window shades would be nice when the car is stuck in the snow (or a city take over by angry protestors in Portland Oregon.) From a ham radio angle I hope the electric cars do not create a whole lot of EMI. And I really hope they do not go do something crazy when a ham with a 1kW on 75 meters is beside you at a stoplight and speaks into his microphone. For some strange reason that seems to blow out some of the very large after market sound systems some idiots install around here.

And I am still bemused at the image of a large excavator needing to find a charging station at night so it's ready to work the next day.

{^_^}

On 20230323 23:27:20, Bjarne Mjelde wrote:

I don't understand the problem. If there is a pile-up EVs only use power for cabin heating, and it will last literally for days in modern cars. An ICE car needs to run on idle for heating, and during a proper snow storm there's also the risk of clogging the exhaust pipe which of course will kill anyone in the car from carbon monoxide. Has happened.
--
Bjarne Mjelde
arcticdx.blogspot.com
Mastodon: @Bjarne@...


 


jdow
 

That is the big warming fallacy. There is little to nothing we in the West can do to mitigate the problem while China's contribution grows far faster than we can reduce ours. We absolutely must figure out how to cope. Higher efficiency is very important. Capturing and using incoming energy is critical rather than introducing new energy into the world's energy budget. Humans are already making just about the same contribution as the Earth without human contributions has. Doubling the heat load on a room rather warms it up. Much the same can be said for the world as a whole. At our wast heat radiation wavelengths the atmosphere is opaque, trapping it in here with us. The real way out appears to be the rather iffy concept of catching incoming energy before it becomes useless (ground reflection, for example) and converting its wavelength to "useless" in service to our energy needs. I love the idea of nuclear power. Unfortunately that adds to our energy contribution rather than uses incoming energy that would otherwise be wasted. Nor can I say I am sure even that plus massive efficiency improvements would save our bacon from the frying pan. Learning to cope is a very broad spectrum problem with a bunch of highly untenable solutions that probably would fail anyway.

{o.o}

On 20230324 00:30:24, Daniel Young wrote:

It's nonsense as to what will eventually become hybrids, a 1970 etc uk housing estate simply could not handle all electric. WPD now national grid told government this. 

Gains from smart meters and energy reduction, do not compensate for decades of under investment in nuclear power. Which the most dangerous place in uk is Sellafield. 

Then we have a poll tax situation where poor can't afford electric cars. 

I drive a £1500 diesel and pence per mile it is cheap, there is no way I plan to buy a new depreciating asset for £50-70k plus. 

Uk global emissions are maybe 2% and you can bet third world want modern convenience. 
The real way to fix this is third world investment and first world oversight on that investment to avoid corruption. 

On Fri, 24 Mar 2023, 06:27 Bjarne Mjelde, <bjarne.mjelde@...> wrote:
I don't understand the problem. If there is a pile-up EVs only use power for cabin heating, and it will last literally for days in modern cars. An ICE car needs to run on idle for heating, and during a proper snow storm there's also the risk of clogging the exhaust pipe which of course will kill anyone in the car from carbon monoxide. Has happened.
--
Bjarne Mjelde
arcticdx.blogspot.com
Mastodon: @Bjarne@...


 


Brent Seres/ VE3CUS
 

Joanne is absolutely right. From my high school physics, law of conservation of Energy, energy can neither be created or destroyed   it can only change forms. We are fortunate if we can generate electricity using non polluting forms such as hydroelectric plants,  however if that is not an option,  we must use other options such as fossil fuels which contribute to global warming. 





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That is the big warming fallacy. There is little to nothing we in the West can do to mitigate the problem while China's contribution grows far faster than we can reduce ours. We absolutely must figure out how to cope. Higher efficiency is very important. Capturing and using incoming energy is critical rather than introducing new energy into the world's energy budget. Humans are already making just about the same contribution as the Earth without human contributions has. Doubling the heat load on a room rather warms it up. Much the same can be said for the world as a whole. At our wast heat radiation wavelengths the atmosphere is opaque, trapping it in here with us. The real way out appears to be the rather iffy concept of catching incoming energy before it becomes useless (ground reflection, for example) and converting its wavelength to "useless" in service to our energy needs. I love the idea of nuclear power. Unfortunately that adds to our energy contribution rather than uses incoming energy that would otherwise be wasted. Nor can I say I am sure even that plus massive efficiency improvements would save our bacon from the frying pan. Learning to cope is a very broad spectrum problem with a bunch of highly untenable solutions that probably would fail anyway.

{o.o}

On 20230324 00:30:24, Daniel Young wrote:
It's nonsense as to what will eventually become hybrids, a 1970 etc uk housing estate simply could not handle all electric. WPD now national grid told government this. 

Gains from smart meters and energy reduction, do not compensate for decades of under investment in nuclear power. Which the most dangerous place in uk is Sellafield. 

Then we have a poll tax situation where poor can't afford electric cars. 

I drive a £1500 diesel and pence per mile it is cheap, there is no way I plan to buy a new depreciating asset for £50-70k plus. 

Uk global emissions are maybe 2% and you can bet third world want modern convenience. 
The real way to fix this is third world investment and first world oversight on that investment to avoid corruption. 

On Fri, 24 Mar 2023, 06:27 Bjarne Mjelde, <bjarne.mjelde@...> wrote:
I don't understand the problem. If there is a pile-up EVs only use power for cabin heating, and it will last literally for days in modern cars. An ICE car needs to run on idle for heating, and during a proper snow storm there's also the risk of clogging the exhaust pipe which of course will kill anyone in the car from carbon monoxide. Has happened.
--
Bjarne Mjelde
arcticdx.blogspot.com
Mastodon: @Bjarne@...