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ELAD FDM-DUO TX behavior.
Pez T
Hello all,
I have started using SDR Console with my ELAD FDM-DUO. It is working fairly well, however I can't seem to get the following things to work:
1 - When I PTT with the hardware microphone on the radio (or a footswitch connected to the radio), SDR Console doesn't recognize that the radio is in TX mode, and therefore will not MUTE the RX, even when I have the "MUTE on TX" options enabled. If I press the PTT button in the SDR Console software, it mutes. So, the software is not detecting TX mode initiated via the radio. Is there a solution to this? (I believe this information is available via the radio CAT).
2 - The "METER" panel in the TX window doesn't seem to work. I get no Power or SWR or ALC readings. (Occasionally the Power bar will show something, but it's fairly random.) Is there something I am missing in the setup?
Thanks in advance!
Max
On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 12:11 PM, Pez T wrote:
https://www.sdr-radio.com/elad-transceiver
Max
I have started using SDR Console with my ELAD FDM-DUO. It is working fairly well, however I can't seem to get the following things to work:Hi Pez. I don't have a DUO but did you check all the settings here? I can see that at the least there seems to be a menu setting inside the DUO? May be more things.
https://www.sdr-radio.com/elad-transceiver
Max
Pez T
Thanks Max, Yes I had been though those settings and setup that way, however relating to the RX MUTE - I missed this bit:
That's a shame! I wonder if an option could be added, to monitor the CAT output for "TX", and when it sees this, then it can "MUTE RX" ??? This could make the microphone and PTT footswitch connected to the DUO a real option!? This is very commonly how the ELAD SW2 software is used - which would make using both programs an real option for those of us with analog audio chains connected to our FDM-DUO's, without reinventing the shack.
Regarding the METER readouts, this isn't working for me and I don't know why?
73
Microphone:
Using a microphone connected to the DUO is not supported, remember the DUO is under computer control.
PTT
PTT using a foot switch connected to the DUO is not supported, remember the DUO is under computer control.
That's a shame! I wonder if an option could be added, to monitor the CAT output for "TX", and when it sees this, then it can "MUTE RX" ??? This could make the microphone and PTT footswitch connected to the DUO a real option!? This is very commonly how the ELAD SW2 software is used - which would make using both programs an real option for those of us with analog audio chains connected to our FDM-DUO's, without reinventing the shack.
Regarding the METER readouts, this isn't working for me and I don't know why?
73
Max
On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 08:10 AM, Pez T wrote:
I run Hermes Lite 2 and generally the idea of SDR Console is to act as an total interface to the hardware SDR. I guess the Elad software is a special case because it's proprietary software from the manufacturer.
PTT is very easy to implement via either CAT or a cheap serial to USB interface. Not what you want I know, but not difficult to implement. It's very well worth it IMO to get access to all the facilities that SDRC has to offer.
Hopefully Simon will read this and comment on the meters but he will most likely want to see a full uncropped screenshot of SDR in the problem condition.
https://www.sdr-radio.com/screenshot
73
Max
Regarding the METER readouts, this isn't working for me and I don't know why?Not sure about this one. I know there was a similar issue (meters) with HL2 at some point (solved) but most likely totally unrelated. Only Simon can help with this I guess.
I run Hermes Lite 2 and generally the idea of SDR Console is to act as an total interface to the hardware SDR. I guess the Elad software is a special case because it's proprietary software from the manufacturer.
PTT is very easy to implement via either CAT or a cheap serial to USB interface. Not what you want I know, but not difficult to implement. It's very well worth it IMO to get access to all the facilities that SDRC has to offer.
Hopefully Simon will read this and comment on the meters but he will most likely want to see a full uncropped screenshot of SDR in the problem condition.
https://www.sdr-radio.com/screenshot
73
Max
I'll reply in full once I get an annoying UI bug fixed.
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Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] ELAD FDM-DUO TX behavior.
Sent: 03 November 2022 08:10
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] ELAD FDM-DUO TX behavior.
Thanks Max, Yes I had been though those settings and setup that way, however relating to the RX MUTE - I missed this bit:
That's a shame! I wonder if an option could be added, to monitor the CAT output for "TX", and when it sees this, then it can "MUTE RX" ??? This could make the microphone and PTT footswitch connected to the DUO a real option!? This is very commonly how the ELAD SW2 software is used - which would make using both programs an real option for those of us with analog audio chains connected to our FDM-DUO's, without reinventing the shack.
Regarding the METER readouts, this isn't working for me and I don't know why?
73
Microphone:
Using a microphone connected to the DUO is not supported, remember the DUO is under computer control.
PTT
PTT using a foot switch connected to the DUO is not supported, remember the DUO is under computer control.
That's a shame! I wonder if an option could be added, to monitor the CAT output for "TX", and when it sees this, then it can "MUTE RX" ??? This could make the microphone and PTT footswitch connected to the DUO a real option!? This is very commonly how the ELAD SW2 software is used - which would make using both programs an real option for those of us with analog audio chains connected to our FDM-DUO's, without reinventing the shack.
Regarding the METER readouts, this isn't working for me and I don't know why?
73
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Siegfried Jackstien
Meters is not supported....
I have made a power monitor for a 13cm pa (sg labs) with an arduino nano and 2 row lcd.. Nano sends its data to the pc via usb...(drive, forward, reverse, pa voltage, temp)...
Should be easy to display those values in console... Simon?
73 sigi dg9bfc
Am 03.11.2022 14:08 schrieb Simon Brown <simon@...>:
I'll reply in full once I get an annoying UI bug fixed.
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Sent: 03 November 2022 08:10
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] ELAD FDM-DUO TX behavior.Thanks Max, Yes I had been though those settings and setup that way, however relating to the RX MUTE - I missed this bit:Microphone:Using a microphone connected to the DUO is not supported, remember the DUO is under computer control.PTTPTT using a foot switch connected to the DUO is not supported, remember the DUO is under computer control.
That's a shame! I wonder if an option could be added, to monitor the CAT output for "TX", and when it sees this, then it can "MUTE RX" ??? This could make the microphone and PTT footswitch connected to the DUO a real option!? This is very commonly how the ELAD SW2 software is used - which would make using both programs an real option for those of us with analog audio chains connected to our FDM-DUO's, without reinventing the shack.
Regarding the METER readouts, this isn't working for me and I don't know why?
73
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Siegfried Jackstien
You can connect the footswitch to pc and switch console to tx...
You wrote that in that case tx mute works...
Use a usb to serial adaptor (ftdi or profilic)... A pull up resistor to +3,3v (a few k ohms) to cts pin.
When pulled to ground console switches to tx.
I use a similar setup with the adalm pluto to connect a hand mic with ptt.
I added a 47uf cap to the cts pin so when i release ptt it stays on for a quarter of a second before it goes back to rx (needed to have the last word not cut off inside pluto)... Maybe not needed in your case.
Greetz sigi dg9bfc
Am 03.11.2022 15:05 schrieb Siegfried.Jackstien@...:
Meters is not supported....I have made a power monitor for a 13cm pa (sg labs) with an arduino nano and 2 row lcd.. Nano sends its data to the pc via usb...(drive, forward, reverse, pa voltage, temp)...Should be easy to display those values in console... Simon?73 sigi dg9bfcAm 03.11.2022 14:08 schrieb Simon Brown <simon@...>:I'll reply in full once I get an annoying UI bug fixed.
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Pez T via groups.io <vk3xpt@...>
Sent: 03 November 2022 08:10
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] ELAD FDM-DUO TX behavior.Thanks Max, Yes I had been though those settings and setup that way, however relating to the RX MUTE - I missed this bit:Microphone:Using a microphone connected to the DUO is not supported, remember the DUO is under computer control.PTTPTT using a foot switch connected to the DUO is not supported, remember the DUO is under computer control.
That's a shame! I wonder if an option could be added, to monitor the CAT output for "TX", and when it sees this, then it can "MUTE RX" ??? This could make the microphone and PTT footswitch connected to the DUO a real option!? This is very commonly how the ELAD SW2 software is used - which would make using both programs an real option for those of us with analog audio chains connected to our FDM-DUO's, without reinventing the shack.
Regarding the METER readouts, this isn't working for me and I don't know why?
73
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Max
On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 02:05 PM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
https://youtu.be/tVPdqUK5QSM
Max
Meters is not supported....Simon's video says different Sigi!
https://youtu.be/tVPdqUK5QSM
Max
OK,
Here's what you need to know. SDR Console is designed to run the FDM DUO trx as a black box, audio coming from the PC. The ALC, power etc. is only available when run like this. Detecting PTT from the microphone isn't implemented - I may look at this in 2023.
There's more to do, for example detecting change in mail dial frequency etc.
From memory you may be able to connect to the FDM DUO trx using the normal FDM DUO receiver profile.
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Sent: 03 November 2022 13:08
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] ELAD FDM-DUO TX behavior.
Sent: 03 November 2022 13:08
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] ELAD FDM-DUO TX behavior.
I'll reply in full once I get an annoying UI bug fixed.
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Pez T via groups.io <vk3xpt@...>
Sent: 03 November 2022 08:10
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] ELAD FDM-DUO TX behavior.
Sent: 03 November 2022 08:10
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] ELAD FDM-DUO TX behavior.
Thanks Max, Yes I had been though those settings and setup that way, however relating to the RX MUTE - I missed this bit:
That's a shame! I wonder if an option could be added, to monitor the CAT output for "TX", and when it sees this, then it can "MUTE RX" ??? This could make the microphone and PTT footswitch connected to the DUO a real option!? This is very commonly how the ELAD SW2 software is used - which would make using both programs an real option for those of us with analog audio chains connected to our FDM-DUO's, without reinventing the shack.
Regarding the METER readouts, this isn't working for me and I don't know why?
73
Microphone:
Using a microphone connected to the DUO is not supported, remember the DUO is under computer control.
PTT
PTT using a foot switch connected to the DUO is not supported, remember the DUO is under computer control.
That's a shame! I wonder if an option could be added, to monitor the CAT output for "TX", and when it sees this, then it can "MUTE RX" ??? This could make the microphone and PTT footswitch connected to the DUO a real option!? This is very commonly how the ELAD SW2 software is used - which would make using both programs an real option for those of us with analog audio chains connected to our FDM-DUO's, without reinventing the shack.
Regarding the METER readouts, this isn't working for me and I don't know why?
73
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