Dave G7GZC says "My Fun Cube Dongle Pro Plus has gone "Phut!"
David Coles
My Fun Cube Dongle Pro Plus has gone "Phut!"
Might any kind person suggest an answer or a replacement please? Very many thanks. Sob! 73 Dave G7GZC (Twickenham UK) |
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Jim Smith G0OFE
It depends on how much you want to spend. Funcube Dongles are still available, so far as i know. SDRPlay range well worth a look.. much bigger bandwidth available. Airspy HF+ is another alternative, smaller
bandwidth but higher dynamic range, but no UHF coverage so far
as I know. ================================
Need help with SDR Console? If you have a problem: Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support Please follow instructions in that link. =================================== Jim, Bournemouth, Dorset. IO90BR. Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers 8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF On 20/10/2022 10:58, David Coles wrote:
My Fun Cube Dongle Pro Plus has gone "Phut!" |
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I have the SDR Play RSP2, and I have been happy with it. The only issue I have had has been overload on the AM broadcast band from our local 800 khz station, but I was able to solve that with an input filter built from a toroid and a variable capacitor |
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Let us know the bands of interest.
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of David Coles via groups.io <g7gzc@...>
Sent: 20 October 2022 11:58 To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> Subject: [SDR-Radio] Dave G7GZC says "My Fun Cube Dongle Pro Plus has gone "Phut!" My Fun Cube Dongle Pro Plus has gone "Phut!"
Might any kind person suggest an answer or a replacement please? Very many thanks. Sob! 73 Dave G7GZC (Twickenham UK) -- - + - + -
Please use https://forum.sdr-radio.com:4499/ when posting questions or problems. |
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Max
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:58 AM, David Coles wrote:
My Fun Cube Dongle Pro Plus has gone "Phut!"Dave As Simon says, without knowing bands of interest it's hard to offer an educated answer to your question. I had a quick look at your QRZ.com page and I would guess that maybe your interest is perhaps more inclined towards HF with perhaps some weather sats thrown in? If that's the case then I reckon Airspy HF+ Discovery is your best bet, and also Black Friday is coming up when they usually offer about 30% off list price so your timing could be good. I have both an SDR Play RSP2 Pro and also HF+ and RTL-SDR.com V3 dongle. HF+ coverage is between 9 kHz to 31 MHz then VHF coverage between 60 .. 260 MHz. So this would cover you for both VLF/MF/HF and weather sats on 137MHz. The only disadvantage is a gap at 6m band. But I can strongly vouch for the performance. It's pretty amazing for the tiny size of package and you will see it's almost universally acclaimed. The other drawback is somewhat narrow sampling bandwidth. Maximum is 768kHz. That's somewhat narrow for VHF-FM 88-108 MHz for example. But the RTL-SDR.com dongle has bandwidth of 8MHz to compensate at VHF/UHF. For LF/MF/HF work the HF+ 768 kHz bandwidth is perfectly fine. VHF/UHF can be catered for with an SDR.com RTL-SDR which has great performance for a very low price, but only buy from SDR.com themselves as there are a lot of clones around. So for my money "bang for buck", I'd get Airspy HF+ and also the SDR.com RTL-SDR V3. Personally I would stay away from SDR Play but they have their fans. I've had nothing but problems with MF overload on my RSP2 Pro and images all over the place at all frequencies, and now it's died so my experience has not been that great. I know they claim some major improvements in more recent models but it's re-purposing a very high gain DTV chip (Mirics chip) so the basic design sort of starts from the wrong place for lower frequency work, whereas the Airspy HF+ is optimised for LF/MF/HF work. https://airspy.com/airspy-hf-discovery/ https://airspy.com/airspy-hf-plus/ https://www.rtl-sdr.com/buy-rtl-sdr-dvb-t-dongles/ Will probably get some flak now from the SDR Play defenders but that's my just my personal experience. If you want good all-round performance with huge bandwidth then look at the RX888 MkII direct sampling SDR, but the manufacturing quality may be a little bit of a gamble. Many have them with great success and stellar performance: I believe many have purchased from this seller with no issues: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002161640019.html https://sdr-prototypes.blogspot.com/2021/02/a-look-into-rx-888-mkii.html https://swling.com/blog/2021/02/new-rx-888-mk-ii-sdr-receiver-on-the-way/ Good luck and 73 Max |
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Max
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 05:37 PM, Max wrote:
VHF/UHF can be catered for with an SDR.com RTL-SDR which has great performance for a very low price, but only buy from SDR.com themselves as there are a lot of clones around.It's not SDR.com. It's rtl-sdr.com but my links were correct though. Max |
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I have a RSP2, and am happy with it for the most part, but as mentioned, it can be subject to overload on the AM broadcast band. I got around the problem by building a series tuned wave trap using a 365 of variable capacitor and a toroid which I tuned to the local AM station on 800 khz. It effectively shorts the offending station to ground -------- Original message -------- From: Max <radiomax@...> Date: 2022-10-21 12:37 (GMT-05:00) To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Dave G7GZC says "My Fun Cube Dongle Pro Plus has gone "Phut!" My Fun Cube Dongle Pro Plus has gone "Phut!"Dave As Simon says, without knowing bands of interest it's hard to offer an educated answer to your question. I had a quick look at your QRZ.com page and I would guess that maybe your interest is perhaps more inclined towards HF with perhaps some weather sats thrown in? If that's the case then I reckon Airspy HF+ Discovery is your best bet, and also Black Friday is coming up when they usually offer about 30% off list price so your timing could be good. I have both an SDR Play RSP2 Pro and also HF+ and RTL-SDR.com V3 dongle. HF+ coverage is between 9 kHz to 31 MHz then VHF coverage between 60 .. 260 MHz. So this would cover you for both VLF/MF/HF and weather sats on 137MHz. The only disadvantage is a gap at 6m band. But I can strongly vouch for the performance. It's pretty amazing for the tiny size of package and you will see it's almost universally acclaimed. The other drawback is somewhat narrow sampling bandwidth. Maximum is 768kHz. That's somewhat narrow for VHF-FM 88-108 MHz for example. But the RTL-SDR.com dongle has bandwidth of 8MHz to compensate at VHF/UHF. For LF/MF/HF work the HF+ 768 kHz bandwidth is perfectly fine. VHF/UHF can be catered for with an SDR.com RTL-SDR which has great performance for a very low price, but only buy from SDR.com themselves as there are a lot of clones around. So for my money "bang for buck", I'd get Airspy HF+ and also the SDR.com RTL-SDR V3. Personally I would stay away from SDR Play but they have their fans. I've had nothing but problems with MF overload on my RSP2 Pro and images all over the place at all frequencies, and now it's died so my experience has not been that great. I know they claim some major improvements in more recent models but it's re-purposing a very high gain DTV chip (Mirics chip) so the basic design sort of starts from the wrong place for lower frequency work, whereas the Airspy HF+ is optimised for LF/MF/HF work. https://airspy.com/airspy-hf-discovery/ https://airspy.com/airspy-hf-plus/ https://www.rtl-sdr.com/buy-rtl-sdr-dvb-t-dongles/ Will probably get some flak now from the SDR Play defenders but that's my just my personal experience. If you want good all-round performance with huge bandwidth then look at the RX888 MkII direct sampling SDR, but the manufacturing quality may be a little bit of a gamble. Many have them with great success and stellar performance: I believe many have purchased from this seller with no issues: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002161640019.html https://sdr-prototypes.blogspot.com/2021/02/a-look-into-rx-888-mkii.html https://swling.com/blog/2021/02/new-rx-888-mk-ii-sdr-receiver-on-the-way/ Good luck and 73 Max |
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Chris
The newer RSP-DX is very good indeed on the lower bands with excellent dynamic range. In fact, I had no complaints whatsoever with it. I would say it’s one of the finest receivers I’ve used in my over 55 years playing with radios.
If you live in a location that isn’t next to a flamethrower broadcast station, the RSP-Duo is incredible. The diversity mode has brought back MW and low band for me. QRM just goes away! No, you can’t just buy two RSP-DX and have best of both worlds. The timing/buffering of the USB signals won’t allow them to synchronize properly. The RTL dongles are toy junk imo. They always disappoint. My latest RTL has been relegated to permanent ADSB use on an ancient netbook running Linux. It’s ok doing that, but even there it doesn’t quiet have the sensitivity of the RSP’s or even my old conventional scanners. |
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David Coles
Many thanks to all respondents!
Your kind replies have taken me to another level. We never stop learning. 73 Dave G7GZC |
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Yes, I have used the dongles and I was dissatisfied |
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Jim Smith G0OFE
Just in case there is any doubt, the Funcube Dongles are a completely different animal to the RTL-type dongles. Funcube dongles are 16-bit, 192Khz bandwidth
with extra SAW filters for 144 and 432Mhz. I bought mine in 2013
and I still use it to this day, mostly for 2m reception. ================================
Need help with SDR Console? If you have a problem: Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support Please follow instructions in that link. =================================== Jim, Bournemouth, Dorset. IO90BR. Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers 8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF On 22/10/2022 16:32, Brent Seres/
VE3CUS wrote:
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Max
On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 03:22 PM, Chris wrote:
The RTL dongles are toy junk imo. They always disappoint.As Jim says, there are many variants of the RTL dongles, many of which are not stellar. However, there are many of the better variants in use by many webSDRs for VHF/UHF. For HF they are just a starter solution I agree hence the advice of my post to use HF+ for HF work. For the type (non-direct sampling) it's universally acclaimed. On VHF/UHF my SDR-RTL.com V3 is not at all shoddy. I think I am right in saying that the RTL tuner chip forms the heart of both the Airspy R2 and also the RX888. Far from junk. Max |
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Max
On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 03:01 PM, Brent Seres/ VE3CUS wrote:
I have a RSP2, and am happy with it for the most part, but as mentioned, it can be subject to overload on the AM broadcast band. I got around the problem by building a series tuned wave trap using a 365 of variable capacitor and a toroid which I tuned to the local AM station on 800 khz. It effectively shorts the offending station to groundHi Brent. Unfortunately you've confirmed my issue with RSP2. I mentioned I have RSP2Pro and also HF+. I also have a local multi-kW AM TX about 10km away. It flattened the RSP2 and images all over the place. I can only describe it as appalling. I have none of those issues with HF+. It just works. No additional notch filters necessary, and not hundreds of images all over the spectrum. But as I say, the HF+ does not have the wider sampling bandwidth or the VHF/UHF frequency coverage of the SDR Play models. Horses for courses. Chris, yes, I have read good things of the RSP-DX. If reports are true it's certainly much improved but the originally deficient design sure needed improvement for HF. I haven't tried one so I would not rule it out for sure. The Duo I think is very similar in design to the original RSP1/2 variants. I won't be trying one of those. I admit I'm lucky to live in an RF quiet, low noise location (for first time in over 40 years!). Again, if it works for you that's great. To be honest if I were David I'd personally go for the RX888. Direct sampling is the state of the art and paired with SDRC has to be the superior solution but from many reports the RX888 is sometimes not quite "plug and play" so that's why I'm hesitant to recommend it for all users if they need total ease of setup. Max |
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jdow
RTL dongles are RTL dongles no matter who you buy them from. You can get worse dongles than usual; but, you cannot get "good" dongles with more than 8 bits per sample reception. So it is limited in that matter. It is also fairly easy to overload it, especially if you play with individual gain settings for its three internal gain settings. On HF an RTL dongle is pathetic at best. The AirSpy R2 is MUCH better. The RX888 is an interesting tool that SDR Console does not drive as well as it should. (Color me frustrated with my periodic enhancement request duly appended to the forum's requests. I did add an idea to make it more usable and palatable for Simon, perhaps. A zoomable spectrum/waterfall window per receiver permanently centered on the tuned frequency, such as possible, with a 1 MHz bandwidth would make catching signals that pop up on offbeat frequencies easier to catch. The existing per receiver windows have too narrow a frequency range.) Re the RX888 MKII, I live about 3 miles away from a small flame thrower. The MKII treats it as just another signal with no spurs. {^_^} On 20221022 16:20:55, Max wrote:
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jdow
On 20221022 16:34:20, Max wrote:
On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 03:01 PM, Brent Seres/ VE3CUS wrote: Nooelec has band reject filters for both AM and FM broadcast. The AM unit seems to work nicely when needed. Now I don't use it, though, with the 888 MKII. {^_^} |
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Airspy Discovery’s max bandwidth is 912 kHz with firmware update. My first choice in SDR’s for HF are Airspy Discovery, with the SDR-iq (discontinued) as my second choice. |
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vince battle
Thanks Max, I have a /airspy Discovery, but I get a HIGH noise level when I use SDRC connecting to the Airspy via spyserver. The SDR-iq is discontinued. Thanks for your advice. If you come across a more modern network base SDR, please let me know.
Regards,
Vincent
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From: Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 5:44 PM To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Dave G7GZC says "My Fun Cube Dongle Pro Plus has gone "Phut!"
Airspy Discovery’s max bandwidth is 912 kHz with firmware update. My first choice in SDR’s for HF are Airspy Discovery, with the SDR-iq (discontinued) as my second choice.
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Have you tried the server feature of SDRC vs Spyserver? |
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vince battle
Kriss, I’m using both SDRC server and the Spyserver. My Airspy Discovery is on my Pi4, which I have the Spyserver installed. The only way to connect to the Airspy Discovery is to start the Spyserver than SDRC. Is this not correct?
Vincent
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From: Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:13 PM To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Dave G7GZC says "My Fun Cube Dongle Pro Plus has gone "Phut!"
Have you tried the server feature of SDRC vs Spyserver?
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Airspy goes directly to the computer in use via USB cable and run SDR Console. Build a definition for it and enjoy. Or place it at a remote site with a w7 or higher computer and run the server application that comes with SDRC and build a server definition for it and enjoy. I run all of mine via the remote server option, since I have them far away from QRM sources. Even Super Station #1 which is on this computer to text you, I connect via the server feature.
BTW... Pi's are horrific in emitting RFI on HF. I have one in the attic running an ADSB server, and I can see it and hear it on antennas within 100' or so. A large FT-241 torroid of 31 mix on the ethernet cable and careful selection of a 5V power supply tames most of it down. The stock power supply was terrible! The only antennas I have in attic are VHF/UHF for my SDRC servers, and even those are full of QRM. YMMV 73 Kriss KA1GJU |
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