World map - Satellites


Matthias
 

Hi Simon,

 

understood. Your choice.

 

I only wanted to point out PSTRotator as an option to avoid having you to implement various drivers.

 

Kind regards

 

Matthias

 

www.dd1us.de

 

 

Von: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Simon Brown via groups.io
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Oktober 2022 08:39
An: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites

 

Hi,

 

I'm not writing a Rotator program; I only added the current rotator support for myself as I use the ERC interface with Yaesu rotators. At the request of a user, I added GS232A and GS232B support.

 

I may add the rotators supported by the Hamlib rotator library, but that's all. No plans to interface to other software.


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Matthias Bopp via groups.io <matthias.bopp@...>
Sent: 18 October 2022 19:11
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites

 

Hi Simon,

 

did you have a look at PSTRotator?

 

This is an excellent program and supports many different rotators.

 

It is possible to interface with it various way.

 

Codrut (the author) is very supportive.

 

Kind regards

 

Matthias

 

www.dd1us.de

 

 

Von: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Simon Brown via groups.io
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2022 19:37
An: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites

 

Hi Frank,

 

I'll look at Hamlib's rotator support and the licencing. I don't want to write a full rotator program but Hamlib may make a basic program quite easy.

 

As for Geochron - I've been writing programs like this before they started with their computer-based solutions. It's only now that i have time for this program.

 


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Frank via groups.io <hb9oab@...>
Sent: 17 October 2022 22:24
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites

 

HI, very interesting and excellent "sat_idea" Simon,

As a satellite user having also made for me a small soft unfortunately only numerical for my AZ/EL and EME/SUN pointing with kepler files in 2L format (sat graphically I was not able...), surely this future very good update of World Map, with satellites, will be interesting if you can also use some more rotors (for EL AZ)... or just delete all rotors now in WORLD MAP and use only HAMLIB for rotor management which implements almost all of them with one single configuration.

With a single programming, you will be able to use all rotors with HAMLIB.... is just an idea, but without command to automate AZ/EL it would be without a leg...

 

Simon's World Map is "getting closer and closer" to Geochron.... ;-) ;-)

 

73


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Simon Brown
 

Hi,

I'm not writing a Rotator program; I only added the current rotator support for myself as I use the ERC interface with Yaesu rotators. At the request of a user, I added GS232A and GS232B support.

I may add the rotators supported by the Hamlib rotator library, but that's all. No plans to interface to other software.


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Matthias Bopp via groups.io <matthias.bopp@...>
Sent: 18 October 2022 19:11
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites
 

Hi Simon,

 

did you have a look at PSTRotator?

 

This is an excellent program and supports many different rotators.

 

It is possible to interface with it various way.

 

Codrut (the author) is very supportive.

 

Kind regards

 

Matthias

 

www.dd1us.de

 

 

Von: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Simon Brown via groups.io
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2022 19:37
An: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites

 

Hi Frank,

 

I'll look at Hamlib's rotator support and the licencing. I don't want to write a full rotator program but Hamlib may make a basic program quite easy.

 

As for Geochron - I've been writing programs like this before they started with their computer-based solutions. It's only now that i have time for this program.

 


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Frank via groups.io <hb9oab@...>
Sent: 17 October 2022 22:24
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites

 

HI, very interesting and excellent "sat_idea" Simon,

As a satellite user having also made for me a small soft unfortunately only numerical for my AZ/EL and EME/SUN pointing with kepler files in 2L format (sat graphically I was not able...), surely this future very good update of World Map, with satellites, will be interesting if you can also use some more rotors (for EL AZ)... or just delete all rotors now in WORLD MAP and use only HAMLIB for rotor management which implements almost all of them with one single configuration.

With a single programming, you will be able to use all rotors with HAMLIB.... is just an idea, but without command to automate AZ/EL it would be without a leg...

 

Simon's World Map is "getting closer and closer" to Geochron.... ;-) ;-)

 

73


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Matthias
 

Hi Simon,

 

did you have a look at PSTRotator?

 

This is an excellent program and supports many different rotators.

 

It is possible to interface with it various way.

 

Codrut (the author) is very supportive.

 

Kind regards

 

Matthias

 

www.dd1us.de

 

 

Von: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Simon Brown via groups.io
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2022 19:37
An: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites

 

Hi Frank,

 

I'll look at Hamlib's rotator support and the licencing. I don't want to write a full rotator program but Hamlib may make a basic program quite easy.

 

As for Geochron - I've been writing programs like this before they started with their computer-based solutions. It's only now that i have time for this program.

 


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Frank via groups.io <hb9oab@...>
Sent: 17 October 2022 22:24
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites

 

HI, very interesting and excellent "sat_idea" Simon,

As a satellite user having also made for me a small soft unfortunately only numerical for my AZ/EL and EME/SUN pointing with kepler files in 2L format (sat graphically I was not able...), surely this future very good update of World Map, with satellites, will be interesting if you can also use some more rotors (for EL AZ)... or just delete all rotors now in WORLD MAP and use only HAMLIB for rotor management which implements almost all of them with one single configuration.

With a single programming, you will be able to use all rotors with HAMLIB.... is just an idea, but without command to automate AZ/EL it would be without a leg...

 

Simon's World Map is "getting closer and closer" to Geochron.... ;-) ;-)

 

73


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Simon Brown
 

Hi Frank,

I'll look at Hamlib's rotator support and the licencing. I don't want to write a full rotator program but Hamlib may make a basic program quite easy.

As for Geochron - I've been writing programs like this before they started with their computer-based solutions. It's only now that i have time for this program.


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Frank via groups.io <hb9oab@...>
Sent: 17 October 2022 22:24
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites
 
HI, very interesting and excellent "sat_idea" Simon,

As a satellite user having also made for me a small soft unfortunately only numerical for my AZ/EL and EME/SUN pointing with kepler files in 2L format (sat graphically I was not able...), surely this future very good update of World Map, with satellites, will be interesting if you can also use some more rotors (for EL AZ)... or just delete all rotors now in WORLD MAP and use only HAMLIB for rotor management which implements almost all of them with one single configuration.
With a single programming, you will be able to use all rotors with HAMLIB.... is just an idea, but without command to automate AZ/EL it would be without a leg...
 
Simon's World Map is "getting closer and closer" to Geochron.... ;-) ;-)
 
73


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Frank
 

HI, very interesting and excellent "sat_idea" Simon,

As a satellite user having also made for me a small soft unfortunately only numerical for my AZ/EL and EME/SUN pointing with kepler files in 2L format (sat graphically I was not able...), surely this future very good update of World Map, with satellites, will be interesting if you can also use some more rotors (for EL AZ)... or just delete all rotors now in WORLD MAP and use only HAMLIB for rotor management which implements almost all of them with one single configuration.
With a single programming, you will be able to use all rotors with HAMLIB.... is just an idea, but without command to automate AZ/EL it would be without a leg...
 
Simon's World Map is "getting closer and closer" to Geochron.... ;-) ;-)
 
73


David J Taylor
 

On 15/10/2022 17:12, Simon Brown wrote:
This is the information on Celestrak: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/documentation/gp-data-formats.php <https://celestrak.org/NORAD/documentation/gp-data-formats.php> .
Simon Brown
https://g4eli.com <https://g4eli.com>
https://sdr-radio.com <https://sdr-radio.com>
Yes, it was that information which led me to XLS. The other formats seem grossly inflated.

I see that OMM itself is in at least two different formats:

XML: OMM XML format including all mandatory elements.
KVN: OMM KVN format including all mandatory elements.
JSON: OMM keywords for all GP elements in JSON format.
JSON-PRETTY: OMM keywords for all GP elements in JSON pretty-print format.

Which variant did you choose?

73,
David GM8ARV
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Simon Brown
 

yes,

At some stage I'll switch over to OMM from TLE. It's not a pressing issue, I just wanted to be sure I know what to do when the time comes.


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of George Stein - NJ3H via groups.io <nj3h@...>
Sent: 15 October 2022 16:29
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites
 
Hi Simon, 

I presume that the map that is part of the satellite module in SDRC will also be using OMM at some point as well. 

You sure find ways to keep busy. Thank you! 

Regards, 
George 


On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 6:57 AM, David J Taylor via groups.io
<david-taylor@...> wrote:
On 15/10/2022 13:48, Simon Brown wrote:
> So, I started adding a basic satellite display a few days ago. Still got a lot
> to do but the basics work, importantly support for the new data format known as
> OMM.
>
> Simon Brown

Simon.

Why use that format?

I was considering the XLS option as it is more widely supported.

73,
David GM8ARV
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From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of David J Taylor via groups.io <david-taylor@...>
Sent: 15 October 2022 14:56
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites
 
On 15/10/2022 13:48, Simon Brown wrote:
> So, I started adding a basic satellite display a few days ago. Still got a lot
> to do but the basics work, importantly support for the new data format known as
> OMM.
>
> Simon Brown

Simon.

Why use that format?

I was considering the XLS option as it is more widely supported.

73,
David GM8ARV
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George Stein - NJ3H
 

Hi Simon, 

I presume that the map that is part of the satellite module in SDRC will also be using OMM at some point as well. 

You sure find ways to keep busy. Thank you! 

Regards, 
George 


On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 6:57 AM, David J Taylor via groups.io
<david-taylor@...> wrote:
On 15/10/2022 13:48, Simon Brown wrote:
> So, I started adding a basic satellite display a few days ago. Still got a lot
> to do but the basics work, importantly support for the new data format known as
> OMM.
>
> Simon Brown

Simon.

Why use that format?

I was considering the XLS option as it is more widely supported.

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: https://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv







David J Taylor
 

On 15/10/2022 13:48, Simon Brown wrote:
So, I started adding a basic satellite display a few days ago. Still got a lot to do but the basics work, importantly support for the new data format known as OMM.
Simon Brown
Simon.

Why use that format?

I was considering the XLS option as it is more widely supported.

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: https://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Simon Brown
 

So, I started adding a basic satellite display a few days ago. Still got a lot to do but the basics work, importantly support for the new data format known as OMM.


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Simon Brown via groups.io <simon@...>
Sent: 10 October 2022 14:36
To: SDR-Radio <main@sdr-radio.groups.io>
Subject: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites
 
Hi All,

The satellite data has a new format which I should use going forward https://celestrak.org/NORAD/documentation/gp-data-formats.php called OMM, this replaces TLE.

A good place to try this out would maybe be the World Map, I know someone did ask for this in the past. An example with be the ISS or maybe a NOAA satellite.

So - any interest in satellite plotting in the World Map?

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Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
 




(That would be a yes)

73 Kriss KA1GJU


G0NGL
 

Yes please, that would be a great addition.

73  Nigel G0NGL.


Brian
 

Definitely please

Brian


Francesco Di Giovanni
 

YES!


Larry Weaver
 

That would be great Simon!

Thank You


Matthias
 

Yes Simon, that would be nice!

 

Thanks and regards

 

Matthias

 

www.dd1us.de

 

 

Von: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Calder Latham via groups.io
Gesendet: Montag, 10. Oktober 2022 18:22
An: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [SDR-Radio] World map - Satellites

 

Sure...if your willing I think it would be cool...FWIW.

 

Thanks for all your Great work Simon.

 

Cal...W1HHO.

On 10/10/2022 09:36, Simon Brown wrote:

Hi All,

 

The satellite data has a new format which I should use going forward https://celestrak.org/NORAD/documentation/gp-data-formats.php called OMM, this replaces TLE.

 

A good place to try this out would maybe be the World Map, I know someone did ask for this in the past. An example with be the ISS or maybe a NOAA satellite.

 

So - any interest in satellite plotting in the World Map?


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That would be great.
 
Greetings Uwe


YaddUser@...
 

Definitely 

thank you simon


Jerry Lofstead W3CDE
 

Yes


On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 9:36 AM Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:
Hi All,

The satellite data has a new format which I should use going forward https://celestrak.org/NORAD/documentation/gp-data-formats.php called OMM, this replaces TLE.

A good place to try this out would maybe be the World Map, I know someone did ask for this in the past. An example with be the ISS or maybe a NOAA satellite.

So - any interest in satellite plotting in the World Map?

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