I hope the title reflects what I am trying to do!

I am using SDRC on QO-100 with SDR Play Duo, All is set up to use CW and SSB ok.

But when I want to use FT8, I need to change audio devices, use JTDX etc.
I thought that by adding a new Identity, i.e  Ident 2. QO-100 FT8, and copying the Identity files from Identity 1. QO-100 CW/SSB to the new Identity 2. QO-100 FT8, I would have a mirrored copy, but alas no it seems not. So is there a way to achieve this with out having to enter all the parameters again i.e converter figures,  views, external radio settings etc etc?

Thanks in advance

73

Ian G4GIR

That will also require visiting the registry and cloning the identity. That's not trivial.

{^_^}

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 10:41 AM, G4GIR wrote:

I am using SDRC on QO-100 with SDR Play Duo, All is set up to use CW and SSB ok.

But when I want to use FT8, I need to change audio devices, use JTDX etc.
I thought that by adding a new Identity, i.e  Ident 2. QO-100 FT8, and copying the Identity files from Identity 1. QO-100 CW/SSB to the new Identity 2. QO-100 FT8, I would have a mirrored copy

Ian

I'm not sure, but from your description I wonder if you are overcomplicating things somewhat?

If all you want to do is change audio paths to/from JTDX etc., why not use the three audio presets on the TX DSP panel? I've got one position set up for SSB with low processing, one for DX (more proc) and "Other" I have set up to route audio from WSJT-X (or whatever) to the TX audio input. Does that not suffice for what you want to do? I constantly switch between FT8, CW, SSB instantly with no need to use another identity. However, you may have more that needs changing over perhaps?

For info, I constantly send audio out from SDRC to a Virtual Audio Cable 1, and I have Windows set to listen to that source at all times, regardless of mode. Audio back from WSJT-X I route via VAC2. SSB audio from mic in (well, another USB audio interface). My CW key keys the rig directly (Hermes Lite 2).

However, if you really want to "clone" (or very nearly) all the settings you can (AT YOUR RISK!) you might use this method. I just tested it myself for my own interest and it did work without any disasters. The only thing it did not "clone" (not sure why) was the audio sources for the aforementioned three TX DSP presets. I slightly hesitate to suggest this info as I'm not sure Simon will approve of the method, but I guess he put the "Registry" option there to be used! To anyone who reads this DO NOT TRY this method if in any way in doubt about overwriting the registry entry or messing about with RegEdit generally, especially saving the correct registry branch because I guess it's perfectly possible to stuff up your PC big time. If you get this wrong don't blame me!

1: Run SDRC. Press "Change Identity" and make sure to enable the identity number you want to clone TO. Open it to check it's all clear and ready, then switch back to the identity you want to clone FROM. While inside the identity that you want to clone FROM, go to "Tools" tab.
2: See two buttons in the ribbon bar. "Backup" and "Registry".
3: Press "Backup" and go through the dialogue to create a backup of the identity you are in. Make a note of the location of the backup XML file.
4: Press "Registry"
5: This should open RegEdit with the correct registry branch selected, Ident0 or whatever identity you are currently in. BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO MOVE THE HIGHLIGHT TO ANOTHER BRANCH!
6: Right click the highlighted branch, and click Export
7: Make 100% sure to have the box ticked that, under "Export Range" says "Export Selected Branch". This is VERY important, as you only want to export just branch for IdentX. If you don't have this ticked I imagine it will export the whole registry? It's not so important for the export (except you will export a large file!), but it's VERY important when you come to import, as it will auto-import all that you have exported by default, so it's very important to only export just the SDRC IdentX branch so as not to overwrite other registry branches when you import!
8: Right click the IdentX.reg file you just exported and "Open With" Notepad or your favourite text file editor.
9: At the top of the text in this file it gives the string name of the registry branch that you just exported in square brackets. Looks like this:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\SDR-RADIO.com (V3)\Console\Ident0]
Change the IdentX (Ident0 in the above example) to the number of the Identity that you intend to clone TO, e.g. Ident1 and "Save As" the file to a new filename. I guess in this example, Ident1.reg would be a sensible filename. The filename extension must be left as .reg.
10: Close SDRC
11: Left click on the .reg file you just amended. A few dire warnings comes up "Are you sure you want to continue" etc.. If you push "OK", the Reg file is written to the new ident1 (or whatever number) reg file branch of the new Ident you edited it to earlier.
12: Open SDRC and Change Identity" to the new Ident.
13: Tools tab>Backup>Restore and restore the file you saved earlier form the backup.
14: That should do it.

Remember....... AT YOUR OWN RISK. I can only say it worked perfectly OK for me (apart from the audio sources in TX DSP). That's not necessarily a recommendation!

Max

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 10:41 AM, G4GIR wrote:

I thought that by adding a new Identity, i.e  Ident 2. QO-100 FT8, and copying the Identity files from Identity 1. QO-100 CW/SSB to the new Identity 2. QO-100 FT8, I would have a mirrored copy, but alas no it seems not. So is there a way to achieve this with out having to enter all the parameters again i.e converter figures,  views, external radio settings etc etc?

Ian

Apologies (and to Simon). As usual my keyboard ran ahead of me. For some reason I thought when I tried out a straight "Backup/Restore" (from the Tools tab) that some parts of SDRC such as the Definitions/converter offsets did not copy over, but I just tried it again and in fact just Backup/Restore to new Identity seems to work perfectly fine. Scrub all the stuff about Registry editing. Too much information. I should have guessed that Simon had it covered perfectly  well already!

HOWEVER, after your "Restore" to the new identity, do a restart of SDRC for the restore to fully take effect in the new identity. That's what had confused me earlier, thinking the Registry copy was also needed.

Sorry to all for unnecessary bandwidth in my last post!

Max

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 04:18 PM, G4GIR wrote:

Yes I can confirm it works and I get a lot of the settings in the new identity after back up and restore. However it is not a carbon copy of the original Backup.

 

Wonder if you saw this too? Am I asking for too much?

Hi Ian

Sorry, had very busy day (got plumber in fitting new boiler and I am his lacky) so no chance to fully inspect your list, but yes, broadly speaking I found if I just did the backup/restore that not everything came back as a carbon copy. Yes, audio source was reset to default but AGC seemed to copy over fine as far as I could see so not identical results to yours. I'm not running an external radio so that might account for some of the differences. I did notice that if I copied the registry branch that it was an even closer copy (bandplan settings correct for one), but still not perfect in every single parameter (like the TX DSP audio settings I mentioned). But all of the important stuff seemed to go over (Favourites/Memories etc.) so it was very little that needed resetting and it's only once to do so no biggie I didn't think?

I don't have kit for QO100 yet, but I do use transverters with 28MHz IF and I find the displayed frequency gets relayed over to my logger perfectly OK for those bands (6m, 2m). My "everyday" logger is an extremely simple one (intentionally, to match my simple brain) and is called NAQLog by Clive, G4NAQ:

https://shirehampton-arc.org.uk/g4naq-naqlog/

I also use WSJT-X with CAT control using Kenwood TS2000 protocol, like the logger, and no issues with the transverters there either so sorry, can't be of help on that score.

Not sure about the TX panel when used in conjunction with an external radio, sorry. I don't really have any concept of how an eternal radio integrates with SDRC as I've never had to think about it!

73

Max