inquiry re a couple of functions


Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
 

Yes, Ken, my bad.
I deal with three pieces of ham remote software, SDRC Server, Icom's RS-BA1v2, and Remoteham's RCForb.
RCForb labels the tuning steps in kHz and I have to make it .500kHz every time I use it (software defaults to .1kHz upon startup), hence my accidental placing a "k" in there.

Was only into my first cup of coffee and the head cold meds puts my mind into a fog. No work (flying) for me for the next several days
until this thing runs its course. Plenty of projects, mine and the local radio club's to take care of! Probably not tower climbing to hang the (new to me) mint condition 2XA-3B-8L-WRTC triband beam, from the 2014 WRTC contest.

73 Kriss KA1GJU

What a few kHz among friends anyways? 😁


Ken Sejkora
 

Hi Kriss,

 

I assume you mean 500 Hz step.  Setting it to 500 kHz would allow for some very quick tuning with the mouse wheel! ;>)  I’ve also set my default SSB tuning step to 500 Hz, or 0.5 kHz to allow for precise tuning, for the very same reasons you describe. 

 

Thanks for sharing your tip.

 

Ken - WBØOCV

 

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From: Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 08:16 AM
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] inquiry re a couple of functions

 

Personally, I set the SSB tuning steps to 500kHz. Most SSB QSO's are on whole digit kHz frequencies. i.e. 3928 kHz, 7255 kHz, 14300 kHz etc.
On17M there's lots of activity on 18157.5 kHz so hence my selection of 500kHz
Makes for fast tuning across the band with the use of the scroll wheel on the mouse. If you do have to 'fine tune', simply hover over the 1/10, 1/100, or 1,1000 of kHz digits in the DSP panel and scroll.

The AM'ers though... they are all over the place on 160m and 80m due to the 'vintage' equipment used.  

YMMV

73 Kriss KA1GJU

 


Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
 

Personally, I set the SSB tuning steps to 500kHz. Most SSB QSO's are on whole digit kHz frequencies. i.e. 3928 kHz, 7255 kHz, 14300 kHz etc.
On17M there's lots of activity on 18157.5 kHz so hence my selection of 500kHz
Makes for fast tuning across the band with the use of the scroll wheel on the mouse. If you do have to 'fine tune', simply hover over the 1/10, 1/100, or 1,1000 of kHz digits in the DSP panel and scroll.

The AM'ers though... they are all over the place on 160m and 80m due to the 'vintage' equipment used.  

YMMV

73 Kriss KA1GJU


jdow
 

Hover mouse over spectrum frequency display. Move wheel up and down. Frequency changes in your (laboriously) selected step sizes. Simon hates right click functions, it seems, so I don't see a nice mouse only fix on the horizon. (Added entries to the right click menus are not horridly laborious and can be VERY nice labor saving devices.)

{^_^}

On 20220413 22:56:41, FoxAcid01 wrote:

Hi,

In reviewing my previous post, below, I notice I may not have been clear:  everything posted thus far is what I intended, however I should clarify that the mouse right click functions I'm seeking would need to actually step the active receiver along with the stepping.  Max had mentioned the cursor/arrow tuning via the keyboard--that's all great except one has to hit enter and confirm the entry before the receiver follows.  To get what I'm seeking the receiver would have to directly follow the right click commands.

thanks

John Collins, Portland, Oregon

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Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] inquiry re a couple of functions
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:32:32 -0700
From: FoxAcid01 <monitor@...>
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Hi Max,

Thanks for your kind response! 

Yes, I realize and use the waterfall variable step size based on distance +/- center and it's very useful indeed.  The function I describe in item one comes from my younger days when I did some (admittedly neanderthal) graphics work; I found it very helpful to have a positioning option that let me deal with just one device, the mouse in this case, rather than moving among input devices.  I'm not sure what the appeal would be across the entire user base, but it would be useful to me.  Of course that alone may not be worth the development effort.  I'm not implying such functionality was overlooked, in fact I am stunned by the depth and breadth of the software.  I am constantly finding little details that prove to be incredibly useful.

I've just played with the cursor/arrow key tuning again and you're right--that's exactly what I'm asking about except I'd like to see such functions via the mouse; perhaps if/when using mouse, the 1x vs 10x selection could be realized based on right click being in the spectrum vs waterfall area(?).

thanks again

John

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On 4/13/2022 12:55 AM, Max wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 05:39 AM, FoxAcid01 wrote:
1)  The right-click frequency up/down step on the waterfall takes one step per click;  is it feasible to have the function do a continuous step when right-held-down?  Maybe even have the repeat rate adjustable(?)  This would save wear and tear on the mouse and my gnarled arthritic fingers.

2)  The various demod modes are freely included/excluded, however I don't see how to arrange the order in which the mode buttons are presented.  This is not a big thing but would be nice to arrange in ways that come naturally to the user.
Hi John

(1) Just for info, did you know that the further from the centre you right click the bigger the steps? That allows very rapid shifting around without need for loads of clicking. Also, did you know you can tune the selected radio using keyboard cursor/arrow keys left-right (set step x1) and up-down (set step x10)? That's pretty much the only method of tuning I use.

(2) Yes, you are correct, you can turn individual modes to display or not but it might also be quite nice to be able to arrange the order of the Mode buttons with similar dialogue to that offered in the "Filter" setup dialogue. Simon?


Max


FoxAcid01
 

Hi,

In reviewing my previous post, below, I notice I may not have been clear:  everything posted thus far is what I intended, however I should clarify that the mouse right click functions I'm seeking would need to actually step the active receiver along with the stepping.  Max had mentioned the cursor/arrow tuning via the keyboard--that's all great except one has to hit enter and confirm the entry before the receiver follows.  To get what I'm seeking the receiver would have to directly follow the right click commands.

thanks

John Collins, Portland, Oregon

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Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] inquiry re a couple of functions
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:32:32 -0700
From: FoxAcid01 <monitor@...>
Reply-To: monitor@...
Organization: Farfel Station
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io


Hi Max,

Thanks for your kind response! 

Yes, I realize and use the waterfall variable step size based on distance +/- center and it's very useful indeed.  The function I describe in item one comes from my younger days when I did some (admittedly neanderthal) graphics work; I found it very helpful to have a positioning option that let me deal with just one device, the mouse in this case, rather than moving among input devices.  I'm not sure what the appeal would be across the entire user base, but it would be useful to me.  Of course that alone may not be worth the development effort.  I'm not implying such functionality was overlooked, in fact I am stunned by the depth and breadth of the software.  I am constantly finding little details that prove to be incredibly useful.

I've just played with the cursor/arrow key tuning again and you're right--that's exactly what I'm asking about except I'd like to see such functions via the mouse; perhaps if/when using mouse, the 1x vs 10x selection could be realized based on right click being in the spectrum vs waterfall area(?).

thanks again

John

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On 4/13/2022 12:55 AM, Max wrote:

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 05:39 AM, FoxAcid01 wrote:
1)  The right-click frequency up/down step on the waterfall takes one step per click;  is it feasible to have the function do a continuous step when right-held-down?  Maybe even have the repeat rate adjustable(?)  This would save wear and tear on the mouse and my gnarled arthritic fingers.

2)  The various demod modes are freely included/excluded, however I don't see how to arrange the order in which the mode buttons are presented.  This is not a big thing but would be nice to arrange in ways that come naturally to the user.
Hi John

(1) Just for info, did you know that the further from the centre you right click the bigger the steps? That allows very rapid shifting around without need for loads of clicking. Also, did you know you can tune the selected radio using keyboard cursor/arrow keys left-right (set step x1) and up-down (set step x10)? That's pretty much the only method of tuning I use.

(2) Yes, you are correct, you can turn individual modes to display or not but it might also be quite nice to be able to arrange the order of the Mode buttons with similar dialogue to that offered in the "Filter" setup dialogue. Simon?


Max
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FoxAcid01
 

Hi Max,

Thanks for your kind response! 

Yes, I realize and use the waterfall variable step size based on distance +/- center and it's very useful indeed.  The function I describe in item one comes from my younger days when I did some (admittedly neanderthal) graphics work; I found it very helpful to have a positioning option that let me deal with just one device, the mouse in this case, rather than moving among input devices.  I'm not sure what the appeal would be across the entire user base, but it would be useful to me.  Of course that alone may not be worth the development effort.  I'm not implying such functionality was overlooked, in fact I am stunned by the depth and breadth of the software.  I am constantly finding little details that prove to be incredibly useful.

I've just played with the cursor/arrow key tuning again and you're right--that's exactly what I'm asking about except I'd like to see such functions via the mouse; perhaps if/when using mouse, the 1x vs 10x selection could be realized based on right click being in the spectrum vs waterfall area(?).

thanks again

John

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On 4/13/2022 12:55 AM, Max wrote:

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 05:39 AM, FoxAcid01 wrote:
1)  The right-click frequency up/down step on the waterfall takes one step per click;  is it feasible to have the function do a continuous step when right-held-down?  Maybe even have the repeat rate adjustable(?)  This would save wear and tear on the mouse and my gnarled arthritic fingers.

2)  The various demod modes are freely included/excluded, however I don't see how to arrange the order in which the mode buttons are presented.  This is not a big thing but would be nice to arrange in ways that come naturally to the user.
Hi John

(1) Just for info, did you know that the further from the centre you right click the bigger the steps? That allows very rapid shifting around without need for loads of clicking. Also, did you know you can tune the selected radio using keyboard cursor/arrow keys left-right (set step x1) and up-down (set step x10)? That's pretty much the only method of tuning I use.

(2) Yes, you are correct, you can turn individual modes to display or not but it might also be quite nice to be able to arrange the order of the Mode buttons with similar dialogue to that offered in the "Filter" setup dialogue. Simon?


Max
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Siegfried Jackstien
 

and when you unselect a mode it should not be seen ... and not be available with mode button on midi deck

means if you only selected usb and cw and click on mode button in midi deck it should show usb, cw, usb, cw ...

maybe add a checkbox so the user can decide:

[x] show hidden modes when selecting via midi mode button

just thinking :-)

... and we need a midi vfo lock ... if software is locked and you turn vfo on midi deck it still tunes up/down so in real the vfo is not locked if you have a midi deck connected

i know ... simon wants the ptt on midi and volume slider still working ... and that may be the reason why completee midi does still function if soft is locked?!?!?

dg9bfc sigi


Am 13.04.2022 um 09:55 schrieb Max:

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 05:39 AM, FoxAcid01 wrote:
1)  The right-click frequency up/down step on the waterfall takes one step per click;  is it feasible to have the function do a continuous step when right-held-down?  Maybe even have the repeat rate adjustable(?)  This would save wear and tear on the mouse and my gnarled arthritic fingers.

2)  The various demod modes are freely included/excluded, however I don't see how to arrange the order in which the mode buttons are presented.  This is not a big thing but would be nice to arrange in ways that come naturally to the user.
Hi John

(1) Just for info, did you know that the further from the centre you right click the bigger the steps? That allows very rapid shifting around without need for loads of clicking. Also, did you know you can tune the selected radio using keyboard cursor/arrow keys left-right (set step x1) and up-down (set step x10)? That's pretty much the only method of tuning I use.

(2) Yes, you are correct, you can turn individual modes to display or not but it might also be quite nice to be able to arrange the order of the Mode buttons with similar dialogue to that offered in the "Filter" setup dialogue. Simon?


Max


jdow
 

Hold mouse over digits top right, the active receiver frequency.
Select the digit you want to change by holding pointer over that digit.
Play with the mouse wheel.

That's not perfect; but, it is less movement than a collection of clicks.

Then notice what happens when you hold down the shift key with the mouse over the three for a frequency of 3.900.000 MHz and move the mouse wheel. It's a quick way to zero all the other digits. If held over the 9 in 3.524.123 the up number becomes 3.600.000 and the down number becomes 3.500.000. Clicking the mouse over one of the non-displaying digits to the left of the 3.900.000 can change the active receiver to 103.900.000 instantly.

Playing with the strip under the waterfall can change your band fairly quickly depending on your step size setting to the right of that strip. The mouse wheel in that strip can make sample rate size frequency shifts per wheel click for really fast band excursions.

{^_^}

On 20220413 00:55:59, Max wrote:

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 05:39 AM, FoxAcid01 wrote:
1)  The right-click frequency up/down step on the waterfall takes one step per click;  is it feasible to have the function do a continuous step when right-held-down?  Maybe even have the repeat rate adjustable(?)  This would save wear and tear on the mouse and my gnarled arthritic fingers.

2)  The various demod modes are freely included/excluded, however I don't see how to arrange the order in which the mode buttons are presented.  This is not a big thing but would be nice to arrange in ways that come naturally to the user.
Hi John

(1) Just for info, did you know that the further from the centre you right click the bigger the steps? That allows very rapid shifting around without need for loads of clicking. Also, did you know you can tune the selected radio using keyboard cursor/arrow keys left-right (set step x1) and up-down (set step x10)? That's pretty much the only method of tuning I use.

(2) Yes, you are correct, you can turn individual modes to display or not but it might also be quite nice to be able to arrange the order of the Mode buttons with similar dialogue to that offered in the "Filter" setup dialogue. Simon?


Max


Max
 

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 05:39 AM, FoxAcid01 wrote:
1)  The right-click frequency up/down step on the waterfall takes one step per click;  is it feasible to have the function do a continuous step when right-held-down?  Maybe even have the repeat rate adjustable(?)  This would save wear and tear on the mouse and my gnarled arthritic fingers.

2)  The various demod modes are freely included/excluded, however I don't see how to arrange the order in which the mode buttons are presented.  This is not a big thing but would be nice to arrange in ways that come naturally to the user.
Hi John

(1) Just for info, did you know that the further from the centre you right click the bigger the steps? That allows very rapid shifting around without need for loads of clicking. Also, did you know you can tune the selected radio using keyboard cursor/arrow keys left-right (set step x1) and up-down (set step x10)? That's pretty much the only method of tuning I use.

(2) Yes, you are correct, you can turn individual modes to display or not but it might also be quite nice to be able to arrange the order of the Mode buttons with similar dialogue to that offered in the "Filter" setup dialogue. Simon?


Max


FoxAcid01
 

Hi


John Collins from Portland, Oregon here.  I'm having wonderful results with SDR Console with both Perseus and G39DDC!

I'm wondering if it is feasible to add a couple of functions, or if they're already there would someone point me toward them.

1)  The right-click frequency up/down step on the waterfall takes one step per click;  is it feasible to have the function do a continuous step when right-held-down?  Maybe even have the repeat rate adjustable(?)  This would save wear and tear on the mouse and my gnarled arthritic fingers.

2)  The various demod modes are freely included/excluded, however I don't see how to arrange the order in which the mode buttons are presented.  This is not a big thing but would be nice to arrange in ways that come naturally to the user.

thanks for considering this inquiry

John