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I was admiring & appreciating the signal history feature of
console and was wondering if there is a way to slow it WAY, WAY
down so we could record & display on a single screen, say, 12
hrs worth of activity? This would be most helpful to plot
propagation effects such as the CME that will be hitting today or
tomorrow.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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Simon Brown
Export the data? If really important I could write SH data to a SQLite database or XML.
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gedas
Sent: 01 September 2021 17:25
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] More Signal History I was admiring & appreciating the signal history feature of console and was wondering if there is a way to slow it WAY, WAY down so we could record & display on a single screen, say, 12 hrs worth of activity? This would be most helpful to plot propagation effects such as the CME that will be hitting today or tomorrow. Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair) Light travels faster than sound.... This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. -- - + - + -
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For that you might also like an R888 so you could
watch DC to ultra low infra red and see effects over that entire
range. That would be fun, actually, worth dedicating something
like a NUC and some form of omnidirectional wide band antenna to
capturing the data long term. Something that takes a screenshot
every hour or so would store the data nicely. Ah yes, a matrix
window with a signal history per window would be ideal for
tracking beacons.
{^_^}
On 20210901 09:24:46, Gedas wrote:
I was admiring & appreciating the signal history feature of
console and was wondering if there is a way to slow it WAY, WAY
down so we could record & display on a single screen, say,
12 hrs worth of activity? This would be most helpful to plot
propagation effects such as the CME that will be hitting today
or tomorrow.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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That would be VERY useful
Simon. There are a lot of folks who would jump on being able
to take that data and then generate some plots.
FYI, the history plot (like
the one I posted) is so dang cool and awesome looking. Love
it.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 9/1/2021 12:37 PM, Simon Brown
wrote:
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Export
the data?
If
really important I could write SH data to a SQLite database
or XML.
I was admiring & appreciating the signal history feature
of console and was wondering if there is a way to slow it WAY,
WAY down so we could record & display on a single screen,
say, 12 hrs worth of activity? This would be most helpful to
plot propagation effects such as the CME that will be hitting
today or tomorrow.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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Agree but it would be so nice
to tune to a specific frequency (sometimes up in the HF bands)
via console and gather our data w/o additional hardware and/or
software. Console does almost everything I could hope for.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 9/1/2021 12:39 PM, jdow wrote:
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For that you might also like an R888 so
you could watch DC to ultra low infra red and see effects over
that entire range. That would be fun, actually, worth dedicating
something like a NUC and some form of omnidirectional wide band
antenna to capturing the data long term. Something that takes a
screenshot every hour or so would store the data nicely. Ah yes,
a matrix window with a signal history per window would be ideal
for tracking beacons.
{^_^}
On 20210901 09:24:46, Gedas wrote:
I was admiring & appreciating the signal history feature
of console and was wondering if there is a way to slow it WAY,
WAY down so we could record & display on a single screen,
say, 12 hrs worth of activity? This would be most helpful to
plot propagation effects such as the CME that will be hitting
today or tomorrow.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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This is implemented in the SDRDataFile Analyzer ("Signal History" option). But it seems to me that the width limit of 10,000 pixels will be irrelevant for bands wider than 2-3 MHz. It is very difficult to see the signals. I am working with old versions SDR-RADIO-Pro_v2.2b1735 and SDR-RADIO-Pro_v2.3b3825.
How to visualize IQ data with resolution in versions 3.xx
10 thousand or more pixels?
My daily traffic of HF IQ data per day is about 1 terabyte (~ 10 hours of 6MHz bandwidth, in 16-bit resolution)
Danila
ср, 1 сент. 2021 г. в 19:49, Gedas < w8bya@...>:
Agree but it would be so nice
to tune to a specific frequency (sometimes up in the HF bands)
via console and gather our data w/o additional hardware and/or
software. Console does almost everything I could hope for.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 9/1/2021 12:39 PM, jdow wrote:
For that you might also like an R888 so
you could watch DC to ultra low infra red and see effects over
that entire range. That would be fun, actually, worth dedicating
something like a NUC and some form of omnidirectional wide band
antenna to capturing the data long term. Something that takes a
screenshot every hour or so would store the data nicely. Ah yes,
a matrix window with a signal history per window would be ideal
for tracking beacons.
{^_^}
On 20210901 09:24:46, Gedas wrote:
I was admiring & appreciating the signal history feature
of console and was wondering if there is a way to slow it WAY,
WAY down so we could record & display on a single screen,
say, 12 hrs worth of activity? This would be most helpful to
plot propagation effects such as the CME that will be hitting
today or tomorrow.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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If anyone is interested in taking a look, these canvases of the spectrum look something like the link below. I know most of the digital and analog signals in person, reading the spectrum that was recorded during the day is fun! The areas of interest are decimated and sent to special classifiers / processors. Training a neural network of radiation classifiers is also fun, albeit very time consuming ... Danila
This is implemented in the SDRDataFile Analyzer ("Signal History" option). But it seems to me that the width limit of 10,000 pixels will be irrelevant for bands wider than 2-3 MHz. It is very difficult to see the signals. I am working with old versions SDR-RADIO-Pro_v2.2b1735 and SDR-RADIO-Pro_v2.3b3825.
How to visualize IQ data with resolution in versions 3.xx
10 thousand or more pixels?
My daily traffic of HF IQ data per day is about 1 terabyte (~ 10 hours of 6MHz bandwidth, in 16-bit resolution)
Danila
ср, 1 сент. 2021 г. в 19:49, Gedas < w8bya@...>:
Agree but it would be so nice
to tune to a specific frequency (sometimes up in the HF bands)
via console and gather our data w/o additional hardware and/or
software. Console does almost everything I could hope for.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 9/1/2021 12:39 PM, jdow wrote:
For that you might also like an R888 so
you could watch DC to ultra low infra red and see effects over
that entire range. That would be fun, actually, worth dedicating
something like a NUC and some form of omnidirectional wide band
antenna to capturing the data long term. Something that takes a
screenshot every hour or so would store the data nicely. Ah yes,
a matrix window with a signal history per window would be ideal
for tracking beacons.
{^_^}
On 20210901 09:24:46, Gedas wrote:
I was admiring & appreciating the signal history feature
of console and was wondering if there is a way to slow it WAY,
WAY down so we could record & display on a single screen,
say, 12 hrs worth of activity? This would be most helpful to
plot propagation effects such as the CME that will be hitting
today or tomorrow.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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Seeing individual signals would not be the point.
Seeing the changes in noise plus signal charted over months and
compared with some of the more prestigious prediction programs
would be "velly eenterestink".
{^_^}
On 20210901 09:54:19, данила фадеев
wrote:
This is implemented in the SDRDataFile Analyzer
("Signal History" option). But it seems to me that the width
limit of 10,000 pixels will be irrelevant for bands wider than
2-3 MHz. It is very difficult to see the signals. I am working
with old versions SDR-RADIO-Pro_v2.2b1735 and
SDR-RADIO-Pro_v2.3b3825.
How to visualize IQ data with resolution in versions 3.xx
10 thousand or more pixels?
My daily traffic of HF IQ data per day is about 1 terabyte (~
10 hours of 6MHz bandwidth, in 16-bit resolution)
Danila
ср, 1 сент. 2021 г. в 19:49,
Gedas < w8bya@...>:
Agree but it would be so nice to tune to a specific
frequency (sometimes up in the HF bands) via console and
gather our data w/o additional hardware and/or software.
Console does almost everything I could hope for.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 9/1/2021 12:39 PM, jdow wrote:
For that you might also like an
R888 so you could watch DC to ultra low infra red and see
effects over that entire range. That would be fun,
actually, worth dedicating something like a NUC and some
form of omnidirectional wide band antenna to capturing the
data long term. Something that takes a screenshot every
hour or so would store the data nicely. Ah yes, a matrix
window with a signal history per window would be ideal for
tracking beacons.
{^_^}
On 20210901 09:24:46, Gedas wrote:
I was admiring & appreciating the signal history
feature of console and was wondering if there is a way
to slow it WAY, WAY down so we could record &
display on a single screen, say, 12 hrs worth of
activity? This would be most helpful to plot
propagation effects such as the CME that will be
hitting today or tomorrow.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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Yeah I love the way Simon has
that history plot displayed ! It is awesome. Imagine being
able to see a full 24 hr of a certain station, like WWV etc
and watching it's S/N change throughout the day. Even if you
had to give up fine details and if some averaging was
performed it would be cool. That kind of data is really cool.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 9/1/2021 4:10 PM, jdow wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Seeing individual signals would not be the
point. Seeing the changes in noise plus signal charted over
months and compared with some of the more prestigious prediction
programs would be "velly eenterestink".
{^_^}
On 20210901 09:54:19, данила фадеев
wrote:
This is implemented in the SDRDataFile Analyzer
("Signal History" option). But it seems to me that the width
limit of 10,000 pixels will be irrelevant for bands wider than
2-3 MHz. It is very difficult to see the signals. I am working
with old versions SDR-RADIO-Pro_v2.2b1735 and
SDR-RADIO-Pro_v2.3b3825.
How to visualize IQ data with resolution in versions 3.xx
10 thousand or more pixels?
My daily traffic of HF IQ data per day is about 1 terabyte
(~ 10 hours of 6MHz bandwidth, in 16-bit resolution)
Danila
ср, 1 сент. 2021 г. в 19:49,
Gedas < w8bya@...>:
Agree but it would be so nice to tune to a specific
frequency (sometimes up in the HF bands) via console and
gather our data w/o additional hardware and/or software.
Console does almost everything I could hope for.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 9/1/2021 12:39 PM, jdow wrote:
For that you might also like an
R888 so you could watch DC to ultra low infra red and
see effects over that entire range. That would be fun,
actually, worth dedicating something like a NUC and some
form of omnidirectional wide band antenna to capturing
the data long term. Something that takes a screenshot
every hour or so would store the data nicely. Ah yes, a
matrix window with a signal history per window would be
ideal for tracking beacons.
{^_^}
On 20210901 09:24:46, Gedas wrote:
I was admiring & appreciating the signal
history feature of console and was wondering if
there is a way to slow it WAY, WAY down so we could
record & display on a single screen, say, 12 hrs
worth of activity? This would be most helpful to
plot propagation effects such as the CME that will
be hitting today or tomorrow.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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It seems to me that in the amateur radio segment, the most suitable implementation is WSPRnet. The required data is available on the servers of this network. Sometimes I run my local WSPR / FT8 / CW multiband skimmers and feed the data to similar resources, doing my little bit in the propagation prediction :) Danila ср, 1 сент. 2021 г. в 23:23, Gedas < w8bya@...>:
Yeah I love the way Simon has
that history plot displayed ! It is awesome. Imagine being
able to see a full 24 hr of a certain station, like WWV etc
and watching it's S/N change throughout the day. Even if you
had to give up fine details and if some averaging was
performed it would be cool. That kind of data is really cool.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 9/1/2021 4:10 PM, jdow wrote:
Seeing individual signals would not be the
point. Seeing the changes in noise plus signal charted over
months and compared with some of the more prestigious prediction
programs would be "velly eenterestink".
{^_^}
On 20210901 09:54:19, данила фадеев
wrote:
This is implemented in the SDRDataFile Analyzer
("Signal History" option). But it seems to me that the width
limit of 10,000 pixels will be irrelevant for bands wider than
2-3 MHz. It is very difficult to see the signals. I am working
with old versions SDR-RADIO-Pro_v2.2b1735 and
SDR-RADIO-Pro_v2.3b3825.
How to visualize IQ data with resolution in versions 3.xx
10 thousand or more pixels?
My daily traffic of HF IQ data per day is about 1 terabyte
(~ 10 hours of 6MHz bandwidth, in 16-bit resolution)
Danila
ср, 1 сент. 2021 г. в 19:49,
Gedas < w8bya@...>:
Agree but it would be so nice to tune to a specific
frequency (sometimes up in the HF bands) via console and
gather our data w/o additional hardware and/or software.
Console does almost everything I could hope for.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 9/1/2021 12:39 PM, jdow wrote:
For that you might also like an
R888 so you could watch DC to ultra low infra red and
see effects over that entire range. That would be fun,
actually, worth dedicating something like a NUC and some
form of omnidirectional wide band antenna to capturing
the data long term. Something that takes a screenshot
every hour or so would store the data nicely. Ah yes, a
matrix window with a signal history per window would be
ideal for tracking beacons.
{^_^}
On 20210901 09:24:46, Gedas wrote:
I was admiring & appreciating the signal
history feature of console and was wondering if
there is a way to slow it WAY, WAY down so we could
record & display on a single screen, say, 12 hrs
worth of activity? This would be most helpful to
plot propagation effects such as the CME that will
be hitting today or tomorrow.
Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT
Gallery at http://w8bya.com (under repair)
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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I also think that the Signal History feature is very good. Small amounts of the data can be exported to Excel or there is a 19 page tutorial by Nils DK8OK on using QtiPlot and three other programs: https://dk8ok.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/sdr_com_marker.pdfSadly, printing Signal History directly uses a lot of ink, even if you reverse the colours, so I have now bought and overhauled an EMI/Field Intensity receiver which has a signal strength output voltage that can be logged on a computer and then printed out with a coloured trace on a white background. Is it my imagination or is printer ink more expensive than Brandy? Stay safe and best wishes, Geoffrey.
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