HF+ Questions
Tony_AD0VC
I looked at the Airspy site and read what they had on the HF+. Some info seems to be missing:
Does anybody know?
Tony
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OK,
Simon Brown, G4ELI
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io [mailto:main@SDR-Radio.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony_AD0VC
Sent: 29 September 2017 03:25 To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io Subject: [SDR-Radio] HF+ Questions
I looked at the Airspy site and read what they had on the HF+. Some info seems to be missing:
Does anybody know?
Tony ad0vc |
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Tony_AD0VC
Simon,
Maybe somebody else will comment on the assertion that ADC width doesn't matter. I will leave it at that. Tradeoffs must sometimes be made.
Tony ad0vc
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:17 AM To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] HF+ Questions OK,
Simon Brown, G4ELI
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io [mailto:main@SDR-Radio.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Tony_AD0VC
I looked at the Airspy site and read what they had on the HF+. Some info seems to be missing:
Does anybody know?
Tony ad0vc
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Tony,
I'm just an idiot (a happy idiot, but an idiot nonetheless) so I don't know how such nebulous processes as quantization and decimation are specifically capable of improving the noise floor (and consequently the MDS and dynamic range) of an ADC, but they are. I found a thread in the Flex Community forum that speaks obliquely to that end - the Flex engineers stated that they were able to improve the Flex 6300's IMD DR3 figures by anywhere between 7 dB and 16 dB (depending on band and preamp settings) in the latest SmartSDR V2 software release. They didn't reveal how they were able to do that, declaring that to be a company secret, seeing as how there's a bunch of other folks (and companies) who'd also like to know. :) Here's that thread: https://community.flexradio.com/flexradio/topics/v2-improved-dynamic-range-for-flex-6300?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter_by%5D=all 73, Mark KF5VQY |
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Brian Morrison
On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:39:06 +0000
Tony_AD0VC wrote: Maybe somebody else will comment on the assertion that ADC widthBeyond a certain point it doesn't, but you need enough bits to hit the dynamic range needed, roughly 6dB/bit. The upper limit is set by the reference voltage the ADC uses, the lower limit by internal noise and by the size of the LSB. If a 14 bit ADC is able to give a receiver noise floor that is low enough then a 16 bit ADC will not make it any lower because other sources of noise become dominant. -- Brian Morrison |
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Mark Cayton <mcayton@...>
Noise floor isn't the only consideration. Dynamic range is valuable when a weak signal is adjacent to a very strong signal, or when an extremely strong signal would otherwise simply overload a receiver front end.
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