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k4mt@...

I have sdr-console (latest version) installed with a rtl2832 dongle. The entire setup works perfectly with HDSDR but in SDR-Console I only see receive noise from the SDR receiver. I have set up external radio and entered IF frequency. All rig control is working but I see no signals on the wtaerfall just low level noise.

What setting am I missing to get this to work?

Gary K4MT

Ed <foodwatch2003@...>

#28551

What is the IF frequency?
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On Fri, 12/11/15, k4mt@... [sdr-radio-com] <sdr-radio-com@...> wrote:

 Subject: [sdr-radio-com] SDR-Console IF Connection
 To: sdr-radio-com@...
 Date: Friday, December 11, 2015, 7:52 AM


  









       I have sdr-console (latest version)
 installed with a rtl2832 dongle.  The entire setup works
 perfectly with HDSDR but in SDR-Console I only see receive
 noise from the SDR receiver. I have set up external radio
 and entered IF frequency. All rig control is working but I
 see no signals on the wtaerfall  just low level
 noise.
 What setting am I missing
 to get this to work?
 Gary K4MT

    







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k4mt@...

#28552

IF is 64455000. I saw SDR-Console working on this radio at another guys location. I also have dropped the required DLLs into SDR directory and dongle is detected. There is no difference in noise when I start the external radio option so it acts like it is ignoring the IF frequency.

Thanks

Gary K4MT

"foodwatch2003@yahoo.com <foodwatch2003@...>

#28553

k4mt@...

#28555

Thanks Ed but still no go. If I unhook RTL2832 dongle noise goes away so the program is seeing the dongle but when I go to external radio and put in IF freq. Noise does not change even one bit. I tried switching to antenna and injected a signal into the SDR receiver and still nothing shown on waterfall at all.

I have 64 bit version and dropped the 64 bit DLL files into SDR-Radio overwriting existing which I assume is correct.

Like I say when I go to HDSDR it works perfectly so it has to be some issue I am having with SDR-Console program setup. Wanted to use SDR radio as it has some features that are nice but guess I will have to remain using HDSDR.

Gary K4MT

"foodwatch2003@yahoo.com <foodwatch2003@...>

#28556

k4mt@...

#28557

I use this rtl2832 on the radio IF output on all ham bands through HDSDR program. It works perfectly so guess I am better off staying with what works.

Thanks

Gary K4MT

Siegfried Jackstien

#28558

He wanna listen to the if output of his rig!

Dg9bfc

Sigi

Ps there is a modded rtl driver that tunes down to dc!!!

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...]
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2015 18:18
An: sdr-radio-com@...
Betreff: Re: [sdr-radio-com] SDR-Console IF Connection



Gary,
what frequency range are you trying to listen to?   Most rtls are above hf
and need to be up converted with a separate module for hf
Ed

----- Reply message -----
From: "k4mt@... [sdr-radio-com]" <sdr-radio-com@...>
To: <sdr-radio-com@...>
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] SDR-Console IF Connection
Date: Fri, Dec 11, 2015 12:02 PM

Thanks Ed but still no go.  If I unhook RTL2832 dongle noise goes away so
the program is seeing the dongle but when I go to external radio and put
in IF freq.  Noise does not change even one bit. I tried switching to
antenna and injected a signal into the SDR receiver and still nothing
shown on waterfall at all.

 I have 64 bit version and dropped the 64 bit DLL files into SDR-Radio
overwriting existing which I assume is correct.


 Like I say when I go to HDSDR it works perfectly so it has to be some
issue I am having with SDR-Console program setup.  Wanted to use SDR radio
as it has some features that are nice but guess I will have to remain
using HDSDR.


 Gary K4MT

Paul Goelz

#28559

At 12:02 PM 12/11/2015, you wrote:

Thanks Ed but still no go.  If I unhook RTL2832 dongle noise goes away so the program is seeing the dongle but when I go to external radio and put in IF freq.  Noise does not change even one bit. I tried switching to antenna and injected a signal into the SDR receiver and still nothing shown on waterfall at all.

I have 64 bit version and dropped the 64 bit DLL files into SDR-Radio overwriting existing which I assume is correct.

Like I say when I go to HDSDR it works perfectly so it has to be some issue I am having with SDR-Console program setup.  Wanted to use SDR radio as it has some features that are nice but guess I will have to remain using HDSDR.

Gary K4MTI'm a fairly new user of SDRConsole so I'm not the local expert.  But here are some points to ponder.

1.  If the waterfall shows ANYTHING (you say it displays noise), it is almost certainly displaying the output of an SDR dongle.  Maybe receiving on the wrong frequency, the wrong gain or the wrong dongle.  But it is connected to something.

2.  Do you perhaps have more than one dongle?  If they are the same type they probably have the same serial number and knowing which one you are talking to can be confusing.  Unplug all but the desired dongle, or change their serial numbers.

3.  Are you 100% certain that you have an appropriate gain configured?  If you change the gain, do you see any effect on the waterfall?

4.  Have you maybe set a very incorrect PPM offset?

5.  Can you hear any local VHF stations (FM broadcast, weather, etc) if you connect an antenna?

6.  As someone else pointed out, you may be at the bottom end of the reliable frequency range for the dongle.  Like you, I would assume that if it works with HDSDR it should work with SDRConsole.

7.  Have you by chance programmed in an up or down converter offset?  For your use, there should be none... that box in the "select radio" dialog should be blank.

8.  Are you entering the frequency correctly?  Are you sure?  If you have not entered the frequency correctly, you could easily see only noise since you may have told it to tune outside its functional range.

I'm using SDRConsole with two RT820T tuners and it works perfectly.  One is on VHF direct to an antenna and the other works through an upconverter on HF.

Paul
WA9PUL

Paul Goelz
Rochester Hills, MI
pgoelz@...
www.pgoelz.com

bob johnson

#28571

I am using an IC756pro transceiver which has first IF tapped at approx 64 MHz..dont remember exactly what the freq reads.. I use a 820T dongle and/or SDRPlay interchangeable.. and use SDR console to track the ICOM receiver, and/or control the ICOM from the computer via SDR console.

Works great..

Possible that you have bad connection from IF tap to dongle.. I found two of five cables from ebay with loose fittings, actually fell off the cable...

If all hardware is working, then most probable wrong .dlls installed in folder.

Try the 32 bit .dlls and try again...

I am sure that the software works with RTL dongles, AirSpy and SDRplay.....

bobbie

k4mt@...

#28577

Thanks for all the suggestions. I have spent over 8 hours trying different combinations and googling but still can not get sdr-radio to show any received signals on IF or antenna. I have given up and will use HDSDR which works perfectly and almost does everything I need it to do.

I my google searches I have seen several SDR experts who talked about the different SDR software and several mentioned they could not get SDR radio working. So I have joined their ranks. Thanks again all but my quest is over.

Being a software engineer it is my belief that software needs to be user friendly and not difficult to set up. Even HDSDR is backward and I tried trials on some pay SDR software that were equally as poorly written. The SDR users needs someone to step up and write modern code that does not required DLL files to be put into to make it work. Many computer users do not have that sophistication level to do even simple things like hatt and expect software to work the first time. You are locking out users by writing junk code.

Sorry to offend anyone but this is how I see the current SDR software other than maybe powerSDR which is somewhat better.

Gary K4MT

Alan <g4zfq@...>

#28578

Original Message ----- 
Subject: Re: [sdr-radio-com] SDR-Console IF Connection


You are locking out users by writing junk code.
Gary,

If you paid for it you may complain.
It's good that writers even attempt to support these cheap dongles.
Sorry you have not got it to work because so many have been able to.
Perhaps being a software engineer is your handicap.

73 Alan G4ZFQ

Steve Rickard <steve.rickard@...>

#28579

Hi Gary,

Sorry you are having trouble with SDR Console. I have not had any trouble since I started using it in 2013. It was my first experience with SDR software. When I upgraded to Windows 10 all I had to do was rerun zadig. I have zadig version 2.1.2.

I also have HDSDR. It has some nice features but I find that CAT control much smoother with SDR console.

Good luck and Happy Holidays!

Steve, KW7F

Books. Cats.

Life is Good.

www.tuftlove.com.

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From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 1:33 PM
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Subject: Re: [sdr-radio-com] SDR-Console IF Connection

Thanks for all the suggestions. I have spent over 8 hours trying different combinations and googling but still can not get sdr-radio to show any received signals on IF or antenna. I have given up and will use HDSDR which works perfectly and almost does everything I need it to do.

I my google searches I have seen several SDR experts who talked about the different SDR software and several mentioned they could not get SDR radio working. So I have joined their ranks. Thanks again all but my quest is over.

Being a software engineer it is my belief that software needs to be user friendly and not difficult to set up. Even HDSDR is backward and I tried trials on some pay SDR software that were equally as poorly written. The SDR users needs someone to step up and write modern code that does not required DLL files to be put into to make it work. Many computer users do not have that sophistication level to do even simple things like hatt and expect software to work the first time. You are locking out users by writing junk code.

Sorry to offend anyone but this is how I see the current SDR software other than maybe powerSDR which is somewhat better.

Gary K4MT

vincent

#28580

Amen, Alan, well said

Vincent

Richards

#28582

Oh come now, Gary ... No offense is taken...  nevertheless, your rant is completely misplaced.

You purport to be a software guru, and make disparaging remarks about the rest of us mere mortals -  but the fact remains, you are the ONLY one having such a problem getting it working.  Considering the number of other ignorant and unwashed fellers who have it going on a Win 10 box; recall my "favorite" Army Drill Sergeant saying in the most blase and impersonal fashion,  "That sounds like a personal problem."        ;-)

Might you consider giving it a second chance - OK, more like a 35th chance - but  Seriously, loads guys lacking your computer acumen have managed to get it working with far less aggravation.  I suspect the rub is something exclusively within your particular situation.

As a beta tester of commercial software for multiple companies over two decades, I certainly empathize with your angst and frustration - and I also know how messed up the OS (especially the "registry") can become after installing multiple rogue applications.

Therefore, I recommend a rather drastic and draconian solution!   Why not just wipe your entire c:&#92; drive holding the OS and applications, and have a completely fresh start ?  I acknowledge this IS an extreme suggestion, but I also believe drastic situations sometimes require drastic solutions.  Many times, it appears impossible to completely uninstall a rogue application, and starting with a fresh installation of the OS and fresh, updated drivers, etc., seems to be the only viable solution.

But Wait!   There's More !

As a computer genius,  I presume you already have a back up plan, and store all important data files on a separate drive or partition from your OS and applications.   Right?    If not, I highly recommend doing so today.    I NEVER de-bug a rogue installation.  I simply restore my computer with a safe and easy backup routine, and start over from a previously known safe state.  And I NEVER lose any data along the way, because I keep it safely tucked away on a separate driver or partition.

I regularly use Acronis DriveImage to back up my OS and applications partition, especially before installing new software or updated drivers. IF anything goes wrong, I quickly restore my computer exactly the way it was before.   It takes just about the same time as it takes to pull and enjoy a shot of espresso.  I cannot imagine ANYONE saving his important personal data with the OS on the C:&#92; drive.   Instead, I tuck my data safely away on a separate drive or partition, where it is far less likely to fall victim to injury and loss from malware, virus attack, and other icky stuff.

I was a beta tester for multiple commercial software companies, including IBM, Nuance, Microsoft, Lernhout & Hauspie, Kurzweil AI, DragonSystems, and others - and their software engineers reviewed and approved my simple backup plan as adequate and reliable.   It removes all the worry and risk from installing and testing problem child software.   Surely you have such a plan in place already?  If not, this is a golden opportunity to put such a plan in place.    :-)

Following this plan, you could simply roll your box back to a previous good state and start over.   And I recommend you do so NOW  as I WAGER THIS MAY SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM.

I mean, really, if the unwashed can get it going... so can you !    But, not until you remove the impediment that resides on your system.

Happy Trails - and good luck.

         ------------------- K8JHR ----------------

On 12/12/2015 4:33 PM, k4mt@... [sdr-radio-com] wrote:

Thanks for all the suggestions.  I have spent over 8 hours trying
different combinations and googling but still can not get sdr-radio to
show any received signals on IF or antenna.  I have given up and will
use HDSDR which works perfectly and almost does everything I need it to do.


I my google searches I have seen several SDR experts who talked about
the different SDR software and several mentioned they could not get SDR
radio working.  So I have joined their ranks. Thanks again all but my
quest is over.

Being a software engineer it is my belief that software needs to be user
friendly and not difficult to set up. Even HDSDR is backward and I tried
trials on some pay SDR software that were equally as poorly written.
  The SDR users needs someone to step up and write modern code that does
not required DLL files to be put into to make it work.  Many  computer
users do not have that sophistication level to do even simple things
like hatt and expect software to work the first time.  You are locking
out users by writing junk code.

Sorry to offend anyone but this is how I see the current SDR software
other than maybe powerSDR which is somewhat better.
__________________________________________________________

k4mt@...

#28581

I would be more than willing to pay for properly written programs. Integrating drivers for many devices is not rocket science. I can send you links from software reviewers who were unable to make this software work How many programs do you use that require certain DLLs be dropped into their software? This is the exception and not the rule in well written programs.

Yes people have gotten this software working but I am not willing to spend days trying to get any software package working.

Again as I said I like the features of this program and would gladly pay for a program that worked without making it a project. By the way HDSDR installation and setup on the exact hardware that this would not work on took about 15 minutes to get full functionality.

And being a software person was not the limitation, but poorly written and documented code was the problem. And as for low cost dongles, why would you not want to support what your users are wanted to use. Maybe arrogance is also a factor.

Sorry to be blunt but you decided to make this personal.

Gary

EB4APL

#28583

Being a software professional you should understand the copyright issues of including in an installation package third party libraries if the owner does not agree with it. This is a project for hobbyists and a free software so there is no space for most of your comments . Ask the author about doing a special version for you with all the documentation that you want and even, if you pay enough, you could review his coding style.
Clearly this is not a software for your user profile, leave us hobbyists continue enjoying Simon's generous work. And if you want professional SDR software, you can ask Simon.

Regards,
Ignacio EB4APL

El 13/12/2015 a las 1:25, k4mt@... [sdr-radio-com] escribió:

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I would be more than willing to pay for properly written programs. Integrating drivers for many devices is not rocket science. I can send you links from software reviewers who were unable to make this software work How many programs do you use that require certain DLLs be dropped into their software? This is the exception and not the rule in well written programs.

Yes people have gotten this software working but I am not willing to spend days trying to get any software package working.

Again as I said I like the features of this program and would gladly pay for a program that worked without making it a project. By the way HDSDR installation and setup on the exact hardware that this would not work on took about 15 minutes to get full functionality.

And being a software person was not the limitation, but poorly written and documented code was the problem. And as for low cost dongles, why would you not want to support what your users are wanted to use. Maybe arrogance is also a factor.

Sorry to be blunt but you decided to make this personal.

Gary

Paul Goelz

#28584

Thanks for all the suggestions.  I have spent over 8 hours trying different combinations and googling but still can not get sdr-radio to show any received signals on IF or antenna.  I have given up and will use HDSDR which works perfectly and almost does everything I need it to do.Did you go through each of my earlier suggestions?  I never saw a response.

If you have selected a dongle in SDRConsole and are seeing "noise" on the waterfall, I'm pretty sure you are successfully connected to the SDR dongle.  You are 90% there.  Is it the only dongle plugged into your PC?  If you got this far, I can't think of any additional required configuration other than setting a gain and a frequency.

The only remaining questions are A) is there actually a good connection between it and the IF out on your radio, B) is the gain appropriate and C) where is it REALLY tuned.  Are you sure you haven't done something simple like drop a decimal point entering or reading the frequency?  And are you certain you are above the minimum frequency for the dongle?

If you are using a dongle with an RT820T tuner, I can assure you that it works perfectly and easily on both of my RT820T dongles.  No special configuration needed beyond dumping the three DLLs into the SDRConsole folder.  And that was just a copy >> paste.

Go ahead and use HDSDR if you prefer.... I use it and think it is an EXCELLENT program.  But I have to say that I have come to prefer SDRConsole, especially when I use my SDR dongles remotely using the client / server feature.

Paul
WA9PUL


Paul Goelz
Rochester Hills, MI
pgoelz@...
www.pgoelz.com

Randy True

#28585

I too have spent several hours trying to get this program to just start. I have a working dongle that works with SDR#.
Have the latest Zadig drivers and rar files. When I start the program, all I can get is, "the application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b)
From one of the unlucky ones.

Randy
W4RTT

To: sdr-radio-com@...
From: sdr-radio-com@...
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 13:33:03 -0800
Subject: Re: [sdr-radio-com] SDR-Console IF Connection

Thanks for all the suggestions. I have spent over 8 hours trying different combinations and googling but still can not get sdr-radio to show any received signals on IF or antenna. I have given up and will use HDSDR which works perfectly and almost does everything I need it to do.

I my google searches I have seen several SDR experts who talked about the different SDR software and several mentioned they could not get SDR radio working. So I have joined their ranks. Thanks again all but my quest is over.

Being a software engineer it is my belief that software needs to be user friendly and not difficult to set up. Even HDSDR is backward and I tried trials on some pay SDR software that were equally as poorly written. The SDR users needs someone to step up and write modern code that does not required DLL files to be put into to make it work. Many computer users do not have that sophistication level to do even simple things like hatt and expect software to work the first time. You are locking out users by writing junk code.

Sorry to offend anyone but this is how I see the current SDR software other than maybe powerSDR which is somewhat better.

Gary K4MT

Andrew O'Brien <k3ukandy@...>

#28586

I am the word's dumbest ham and can't code my way out of a paper bag, but I am somehow able to get SDR-Radio Console to work with RTL dongle , SDR-IQ, SDRplay ,and external radio links to Kenwoods and Flex radios without any issues.

Andy K3UK

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On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 10:41 PM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [sdr-radio-com] <sdr-radio-com@...> wrote:

I too have spent several hours trying to get this program to just start. I have a working dongle that works with SDR#.
Have the latest Zadig drivers and rar files. When I start the program, all I can get is, "the application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b)
From one of the unlucky ones.

Randy
W4RTT

To: sdr-radio-com@...
From: sdr-radio-com@...
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 13:33:03 -0800
Subject: Re: [sdr-radio-com] SDR-Console IF Connection

Thanks for all the suggestions. I have spent over 8 hours trying different combinations and googling but still can not get sdr-radio to show any received signals on IF or antenna. I have given up and will use HDSDR which works perfectly and almost does everything I need it to do.

I my google searches I have seen several SDR experts who talked about the different SDR software and several mentioned they could not get SDR radio working. So I have joined their ranks. Thanks again all but my quest is over.

Being a software engineer it is my belief that software needs to be user friendly and not difficult to set up. Even HDSDR is backward and I tried trials on some pay SDR software that were equally as poorly written. The SDR users needs someone to step up and write modern code that does not required DLL files to be put into to make it work. Many computer users do not have that sophistication level to do even simple things like hatt and expect software to work the first time. You are locking out users by writing junk code.

Sorry to offend anyone but this is how I see the current SDR software other than maybe powerSDR which is somewhat better.

Gary K4MT