İf and beacon screens


Oguzhan Kayhan
 




Hello 
I want to ask (probably simple) question 

I dont know how, on one of my computers i have the following window. (Picture Attached)



that green mark helps me a lot with the frequency fine tuning. but i couldnt make it appear on other computers.. which option is it?

Second, about geostationary beacon..
the waterfall on that screen is so narrow that i can not find the beacon frequency easly.. +/- keys doesnt help much..is there a way to make that waterfall wider to see?
I have this problem scpecially on low resolution computers.. 
Thank you

73

de TA2NC



Mark <mark.g0mgx@...>
 

Hello TA2NC

 

Let me try and help.

 

Regarding the IF display (I think that is what you are asking), you simply show this by clicking on the down arrow I have highlighted:

 

 

Regarding the geostationary beacon, here is an example from my screen:

 

 

Here is the beacon window with the largest zoom setting:

 

 

And here with the smallest:

 

 

So I am not clear how you can miss the beacon signal if you have a good RX on the satellite?

 

Mark

G0MGX

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Oguzhan Kayhan
Sent: 29 August 2019 07:34
To: SDR-Radio@groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] İf and beacon screens

 

 

 

Hello 

I want to ask (probably simple) question 

 

I dont know how, on one of my computers i have the following window. (Picture Attached)

 

 

 

that green mark helps me a lot with the frequency fine tuning. but i couldnt make it appear on other computers.. which option is it?

 

Second, about geostationary beacon..

the waterfall on that screen is so narrow that i can not find the beacon frequency easly.. +/- keys doesnt help much..is there a way to make that waterfall wider to see?

I have this problem scpecially on low resolution computers.. 

Thank you

 

73

 

de TA2NC

 

 


Oguzhan Kayhan
 

Hello Mark,
Yes If display just opened when clicked to that small arrow..As I said that was something easy.. just forgot how to turned on at first place.
Anyway, about the beacon monitoring,
Specially on low resolution screens, even I can see the whole spectrum on upper waterfall, if the LNB (or sdr) has high diff ppm, It is hard to get to the beacon.
It would be good to see a wider spectrum or a ruler that only controls the beacon monitor screen..
I can not share a screenshot now because all is fine with my recent computer.. But i had the same problem with two of my friends..



On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:34 PM Mark <mark.g0mgx@...> wrote:

Hello TA2NC

 

Let me try and help.

 

Regarding the IF display (I think that is what you are asking), you simply show this by clicking on the down arrow I have highlighted:

 

 

Regarding the geostationary beacon, here is an example from my screen:

 

A screenshot of a computer

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Here is the beacon window with the largest zoom setting:

 

A screenshot of a computer screen

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And here with the smallest:

 

A screen shot of a computer

Description automatically generated

 

So I am not clear how you can miss the beacon signal if you have a good RX on the satellite?

 

Mark

G0MGX

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Oguzhan Kayhan
Sent: 29 August 2019 07:34
To: SDR-Radio@groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] İf and beacon screens

 

 

 

Hello 

I want to ask (probably simple) question 

 

I dont know how, on one of my computers i have the following window. (Picture Attached)

 

 

 

that green mark helps me a lot with the frequency fine tuning. but i couldnt make it appear on other computers.. which option is it?

 

Second, about geostationary beacon..

the waterfall on that screen is so narrow that i can not find the beacon frequency easly.. +/- keys doesnt help much..is there a way to make that waterfall wider to see?

I have this problem scpecially on low resolution computers.. 

Thank you

 

73

 

de TA2NC

 

 

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Siegfried Jackstien
 

about the beacon not in the window

press minus button in geo beacon till you have max zoomed out ... if your lnb then is still very far out ... then just type in the lnb frequency more exact (radio defnitions edit downconverter qrg)

example ... you type in 9.75 gig (nominal frequency of consumer lnb) ... but your lnb is say 30 kc off

then you type in 9.749.970.000 (or 9.750.030.000 depnding if lnb is too high or to low)

WHY DO EVERYBODY ASSUME THE LNB IS AT 9.75 gig??? ...

if you type in the "corrected" lnb frequency you should have the beacon in centre of the beacon window

hth

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 29.08.2019 um 06:34 schrieb Oguzhan Kayhan:




Hello 
I want to ask (probably simple) question 

I dont know how, on one of my computers i have the following window. (Picture Attached)



that green mark helps me a lot with the frequency fine tuning. but i couldnt make it appear on other computers.. which option is it?

Second, about geostationary beacon..
the waterfall on that screen is so narrow that i can not find the beacon frequency easly.. +/- keys doesnt help much..is there a way to make that waterfall wider to see?
I have this problem scpecially on low resolution computers.. 
Thank you

73

de TA2NC



Oguzhan Kayhan
 

Hello Siegfried, absolutely there are some workaround ways but 

As I mentioned, 'it would be good to have' such a ruler to find the right frequency easily. And sure much more practical.... 
And  the effort that needed to make it possible?
Sure higher priority problems will be first. It is just nice to have

Just my two cents...


Regards



30 Ağu 2019 Cum 01:11 tarihinde Siegfried Jackstien <siegfried.jackstien@...> şunu yazdı:

about the beacon not in the window

press minus button in geo beacon till you have max zoomed out ... if your lnb then is still very far out ... then just type in the lnb frequency more exact (radio defnitions edit downconverter qrg)

example ... you type in 9.75 gig (nominal frequency of consumer lnb) ... but your lnb is say 30 kc off

then you type in 9.749.970.000 (or 9.750.030.000 depnding if lnb is too high or to low)

WHY DO EVERYBODY ASSUME THE LNB IS AT 9.75 gig??? ...

if you type in the "corrected" lnb frequency you should have the beacon in centre of the beacon window

hth

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 29.08.2019 um 06:34 schrieb Oguzhan Kayhan:



Hello 
I want to ask (probably simple) question 

I dont know how, on one of my computers i have the following window. (Picture Attached)



that green mark helps me a lot with the frequency fine tuning. but i couldnt make it appear on other computers.. which option is it?

Second, about geostationary beacon..
the waterfall on that screen is so narrow that i can not find the beacon frequency easly.. +/- keys doesnt help much..is there a way to make that waterfall wider to see?
I have this problem scpecially on low resolution computers.. 
Thank you

73

de TA2NC



Simon Brown
 

Hi,

 

I’ll answer your issues today. In brief – the downconverter value selected for your LNB needs adjusting a bit.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Oguzhan Kayhan
Sent: 30 August 2019 08:27
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] İf and beacon screens

 

Hello Siegfried, absolutely there are some workaround ways but 

 

As I mentioned, 'it would be good to have' such a ruler to find the right frequency easily. And sure much more practical.... 

And  the effort that needed to make it possible?

Sure higher priority problems will be first. It is just nice to have

 

Just my two cents...

 

 

Regards

 

 

30 Ağu 2019 Cum 01:11 tarihinde Siegfried Jackstien <siegfried.jackstien@...> şunu yazdı:

about the beacon not in the window

press minus button in geo beacon till you have max zoomed out ... if your lnb then is still very far out ... then just type in the lnb frequency more exact (radio defnitions edit downconverter qrg)

example ... you type in 9.75 gig (nominal frequency of consumer lnb) ... but your lnb is say 30 kc off

then you type in 9.749.970.000 (or 9.750.030.000 depnding if lnb is too high or to low)

WHY DO EVERYBODY ASSUME THE LNB IS AT 9.75 gig??? ...

if you type in the "corrected" lnb frequency you should have the beacon in centre of the beacon window

hth

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 29.08.2019 um 06:34 schrieb Oguzhan Kayhan:

 

 

Hello 

I want to ask (probably simple) question 

 

I dont know how, on one of my computers i have the following window. (Picture Attached)

 

 

 

that green mark helps me a lot with the frequency fine tuning. but i couldnt make it appear on other computers.. which option is it?

 

Second, about geostationary beacon..

the waterfall on that screen is so narrow that i can not find the beacon frequency easly.. +/- keys doesnt help much..is there a way to make that waterfall wider to see?

I have this problem scpecially on low resolution computers.. 

Thank you

 

73

 

de TA2NC

 

 


Oguzhan Kayhan
 

Hello Simon
When replying, please also consider the video on this link below.
For brief, I find the beacon..(LO already set to a better value to keep beacon on center by default)  lock on it...
And after that, when I zoom on main waterfall, the frequency shifts on beacon waterfall..
If i stop and start the radio again.. it restores its original position..
Is this behavior expected??




On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:53 AM Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I’ll answer your issues today. In brief – the downconverter value selected for your LNB needs adjusting a bit.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Oguzhan Kayhan
Sent: 30 August 2019 08:27
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] İf and beacon screens

 

Hello Siegfried, absolutely there are some workaround ways but 

 

As I mentioned, 'it would be good to have' such a ruler to find the right frequency easily. And sure much more practical.... 

And  the effort that needed to make it possible?

Sure higher priority problems will be first. It is just nice to have

 

Just my two cents...

 

 

Regards

 

 

30 Ağu 2019 Cum 01:11 tarihinde Siegfried Jackstien <siegfried.jackstien@...> şunu yazdı:

about the beacon not in the window

press minus button in geo beacon till you have max zoomed out ... if your lnb then is still very far out ... then just type in the lnb frequency more exact (radio defnitions edit downconverter qrg)

example ... you type in 9.75 gig (nominal frequency of consumer lnb) ... but your lnb is say 30 kc off

then you type in 9.749.970.000 (or 9.750.030.000 depnding if lnb is too high or to low)

WHY DO EVERYBODY ASSUME THE LNB IS AT 9.75 gig??? ...

if you type in the "corrected" lnb frequency you should have the beacon in centre of the beacon window

hth

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 29.08.2019 um 06:34 schrieb Oguzhan Kayhan:

 

 

Hello 

I want to ask (probably simple) question 

 

I dont know how, on one of my computers i have the following window. (Picture Attached)

 

 

 

that green mark helps me a lot with the frequency fine tuning. but i couldnt make it appear on other computers.. which option is it?

 

Second, about geostationary beacon..

the waterfall on that screen is so narrow that i can not find the beacon frequency easly.. +/- keys doesnt help much..is there a way to make that waterfall wider to see?

I have this problem scpecially on low resolution computers.. 

Thank you

 

73

 

de TA2NC