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Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

Per
 

Thomas

Found it on Komplett.no

<https://www.komplett.no/product/1130161/datautstyr/pc-tilbehoer/streaming/capture-streaming/elgato-stream-deck-xl>

73 de LA9XKA - Per

On 05.05.2021 00:01, Thomas S. Knutsen wrote:
Mind sharing who has it on offer localy? If so I will get one to try. 

73 de Thomas LA3PNA. 

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4. mai 2021 kl. 18:23 skrev Gisle Vanem <gisle.vanem@...>:



If it sends out keystrokes then yes, the app (SDR Console) must have focus.

Not if SDR Console handles MIDI-input. But does it?



Virusfri. www.avg.com


Re: Using Line-1 out of SDR-Console to WSJTx Audio In

KD7YZ Bob
 

BobS, as u can see in the screenshot (SDR-Console_CPU) of process-manager, the CPU load appears low.

Note that for the last couple years I am running at least two iterations of WSJTx and one SDR-Console.

That said, it was only recently that I started to see a constant dT offset in FT8.
I can make a quick change in WSJTx "Audio" and set it to a particular rig. At that point the dT of all decodes comes back to 0->0.2 offsets and well within the sweet-spot. Put the audio back to a VAC and again the 2 second dT ranges.


Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

Simon Brown
 

Amazon.

 

https://tinyurl.com/szaywpsb

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas S. Knutsen
Sent: 04 May 2021 23:01
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

 

Mind sharing who has it on offer localy? If so I will get one to try. 

 

73 de Thomas LA3PNA. 

Sendt fra min iPhone



4. mai 2021 kl. 18:23 skrev Gisle Vanem <gisle.vanem@...>:



If it sends out keystrokes then yes, the app (SDR Console) must have focus.

Not if SDR Console handles MIDI-input. But does it?


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Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

Thomas S. Knutsen
 

Mind sharing who has it on offer localy? If so I will get one to try. 

73 de Thomas LA3PNA. 

Sendt fra min iPhone

4. mai 2021 kl. 18:23 skrev Gisle Vanem <gisle.vanem@...>:



If it sends out keystrokes then yes, the app (SDR Console) must have focus.

Not if SDR Console handles MIDI-input. But does it?


Re: Anyone with KNOWN treadmill exercise equipment RFI screen shots?

Dennis Matzen
 

Kriss, here is a link to a YouTube vide of the QRM in SDRC.

https://youtu.be/MQ0nbKTWe3I

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Dennis
KA6FUB


Re: Dead Andrus

Simon Brown
 

Or in three words:

 

Simon Knows Best

 

‘Cos I’ve spent so many years fixing IT problems *and* it was obvious from the logfile 😊 .

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Matzen
Sent: 04 May 2021 21:28
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Dead Andrus

 

Just two words....

Occam's razor

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Dennis
KA6FUB


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Re: Dead Andrus

Dennis Matzen
 

Just two words....

Occam's razor

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KA6FUB


Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

John (M5ET)
 

Hi Andy,

 

I’m simply responding to queries from others, who suggested this. However, given that you have either 6, 15, or 32 buttons per ‘page’ with the different Stream Deck variants, and given you can basically program each button, stick a text label on it, stick an image there too, and even have the image change based on whether a status is ‘on’ or ‘off’… Not to mention subfolders and sub-profiles you can switch between all by pushing buttons, you suddenly have a huge amount of extra flexibility with dynamically updating button faces. Sure, each folder you create loses you a button from the main page, but if you do like I’ve done with mine (I do use it for streaming), and have a “Select Profile” button which loads up a page of buttons each containing a separate profile, you can then have 31 usable buttons per profile page, and the full 32 profiles, one per button in the ‘select’ screen. Each button is actually a small OLED screen underneath a transparent top, hence the ability to have them update automatically.

 

I fully agree it lacks a jog wheel/VFO wheel style option, but if you take the XL for example (8 columns, 4 rows), you could literally have a button for each mode you wanted, a button for each band you wanted, a button for each of a set of different filter widths, and still plenty to spare, all with images that update when they detect a certain config (assuming a properly integrated plugin). I have a Shuttle Pro as well, and that works nicely for various things, but has fewer buttons and they don’t label themselves based on what I’m doing. Nothing stops me using both the Shuttle Pro and the Stream Deck XL in tandem though, and it’s something I’m now seriously considering configuring up as a test!

 

It was initially designed as a content/streaming controller, you’re correct there. However, the original design is just the tip of the iceberg. I know one ham who uses his as a launch pad for different application stacks (due to the multi-action button option), whereby he pushes one button and it opens up a specific profile for his preferred data mode application, opens up his logging software, opens up a couple of webpages, loads up KST2Me, and has everything ready to go with one tap.

 

73,

John (M5ET)

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrea Lawendel
Sent: 04 May 2021 18:26
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

 

Interesting, still I'm a bit confused. It seems all the attention is focused on Stream Deck as a content/streaming controller. You maintain it can work as function controller, like the TMate or Shuttle Pro? Wouldn't the latter provide for better ergonomics? On the SD I don't see any physical rotating wheel, for instance.

Looking forward to your guiding explanations.

 

73

Andy

 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 7:17 PM John (M5ET) <john@...> wrote:

There’s a “proper” MIDI plugin available via the plugins library… Its website is https://trevligaspel.se/streamdeck/midi/index.html

 

You’re much more likely to find people are willing to install something that’s packaged with the SD via its library/store, than something on github. It’s a usability thing, more than anything else. One search and two clicks gets me a MIDI plugin, whereas the github link you provided likely involves me spending ages reading up on how to install it before we even get anywhere near doing anything!

 

When added, it gives the following “button type” options:

 

 

I’m sure it could be configured to do things that way, but each user would have to manually configure the MIDI commands they want to run (and once you select “Control Change” for example, you then have to pick the MIDI ports, the command you want to send etc etc). It’d be much cleaner to have a proper SDR-Console plugin which either sends the same MIDI commands, or better still, a proper interface that the StreamDeck software can talk to directly which negates faffing.

 

This is all getting rather close to asking Simon to build and maintain a whole extra piece of software though, and that’s a big ask for someone who’s already producing such an excellent package the way he does!

 

73,

John (M5ET)

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gisle Vanem
Sent: 04 May 2021 18:00
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 06:25 PM, Simon Brown wrote:

MIDI is different. AFAIK the Elgato appears as a sort of HID device.

Oh. I thought a MIDI-interface was bundled with it. But there is at least one plugin for this.


Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

Andrea Lawendel
 

Interesting, still I'm a bit confused. It seems all the attention is focused on Stream Deck as a content/streaming controller. You maintain it can work as function controller, like the TMate or Shuttle Pro? Wouldn't the latter provide for better ergonomics? On the SD I don't see any physical rotating wheel, for instance.
Looking forward to your guiding explanations.

73
Andy

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 7:17 PM John (M5ET) <john@...> wrote:

There’s a “proper” MIDI plugin available via the plugins library… Its website is https://trevligaspel.se/streamdeck/midi/index.html

 

You’re much more likely to find people are willing to install something that’s packaged with the SD via its library/store, than something on github. It’s a usability thing, more than anything else. One search and two clicks gets me a MIDI plugin, whereas the github link you provided likely involves me spending ages reading up on how to install it before we even get anywhere near doing anything!

 

When added, it gives the following “button type” options:

 

 

I’m sure it could be configured to do things that way, but each user would have to manually configure the MIDI commands they want to run (and once you select “Control Change” for example, you then have to pick the MIDI ports, the command you want to send etc etc). It’d be much cleaner to have a proper SDR-Console plugin which either sends the same MIDI commands, or better still, a proper interface that the StreamDeck software can talk to directly which negates faffing.

 

This is all getting rather close to asking Simon to build and maintain a whole extra piece of software though, and that’s a big ask for someone who’s already producing such an excellent package the way he does!

 

73,

John (M5ET)

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gisle Vanem
Sent: 04 May 2021 18:00
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 06:25 PM, Simon Brown wrote:

MIDI is different. AFAIK the Elgato appears as a sort of HID device.

Oh. I thought a MIDI-interface was bundled with it. But there is at least one plugin for this.


Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

John (M5ET)
 

There’s a “proper” MIDI plugin available via the plugins library… Its website is https://trevligaspel.se/streamdeck/midi/index.html

 

You’re much more likely to find people are willing to install something that’s packaged with the SD via its library/store, than something on github. It’s a usability thing, more than anything else. One search and two clicks gets me a MIDI plugin, whereas the github link you provided likely involves me spending ages reading up on how to install it before we even get anywhere near doing anything!

 

When added, it gives the following “button type” options:

 

 

I’m sure it could be configured to do things that way, but each user would have to manually configure the MIDI commands they want to run (and once you select “Control Change” for example, you then have to pick the MIDI ports, the command you want to send etc etc). It’d be much cleaner to have a proper SDR-Console plugin which either sends the same MIDI commands, or better still, a proper interface that the StreamDeck software can talk to directly which negates faffing.

 

This is all getting rather close to asking Simon to build and maintain a whole extra piece of software though, and that’s a big ask for someone who’s already producing such an excellent package the way he does!

 

73,

John (M5ET)

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gisle Vanem
Sent: 04 May 2021 18:00
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 06:25 PM, Simon Brown wrote:

MIDI is different. AFAIK the Elgato appears as a sort of HID device.

Oh. I thought a MIDI-interface was bundled with it. But there is at least one plugin for this.


Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

Gisle Vanem
 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 06:25 PM, Simon Brown wrote:

MIDI is different. AFAIK the Elgato appears as a sort of HID device.

Oh. I thought a MIDI-interface was bundled with it. But there is at least one plugin for this.


Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

John (M5ET)
 

Simon is correct!

 

Here’s a screenshot from my Device Manager showing the Stream Deck XL hardware IDs…

 

 

73,

John (M5ET)

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 04 May 2021 17:26
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

 

MIDI is different. AFAIK the Elgato appears as a sort of HID device.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gisle Vanem
Sent: 04 May 2021 17:23
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

 

If it sends out keystrokes then yes, the app (SDR Console) must have focus.

Not if SDR Console handles MIDI-input. But does it?


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Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

Simon Brown
 

MIDI is different. AFAIK the Elgato appears as a sort of HID device.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gisle Vanem
Sent: 04 May 2021 17:23
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

 

If it sends out keystrokes then yes, the app (SDR Console) must have focus.

Not if SDR Console handles MIDI-input. But does it?


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Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

Gisle Vanem
 

If it sends out keystrokes then yes, the app (SDR Console) must have focus.

Not if SDR Console handles MIDI-input. But does it?


Re: Dead Andrus

Simon Brown
 

Simon 1 : 0 Allan

 

:D

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allan Isaacs
Sent: 04 May 2021 15:54
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Dead Andrus

 

All fixed Simon. You were quite right.

It was Vipre. I didn’t know it had turned on its firewall.

The clue was when I tried my Asus Mini PC on my 4K TV, adding Andrus caused Windows Defender to suggest allowing local network access before I could add the Andrus. Once I’d added a tick to allow access, the Andrus was added and worked OK.

Went back to my main PC, switched off Vipre Firewall and everything’s working again.

Cheers

Allan

 

 


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Re: Dead Andrus

Allan Isaacs
 

All fixed Simon. You were quite right.

It was Vipre. I didn’t know it had turned on its firewall.

The clue was when I tried my Asus Mini PC on my 4K TV, adding Andrus caused Windows Defender to suggest allowing local network access before I could add the Andrus. Once I’d added a tick to allow access, the Andrus was added and worked OK.

Went back to my main PC, switched off Vipre Firewall and everything’s working again.

Cheers

Allan

 

 


Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

Max Mucci, N5NHJ
 

Hello Per,
Yes, you are right.
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73 de Max, N5NHJ (I8NHJ)

Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 9:04:20 AM, you wrote:


Thank You for the response!

I have ordered an XL now as they are on offer here locally at the moment, I hope it will be an good addition to SDR Console.

My understanding is that while it works with hotkeys You must always keep the controlled application in focus while with an integration as FRstack (for Flex radio) the buttons will function even when You are in another Windows application?

73 de Per - LA9XKA


Re: The Decline of Ham Radio

Michael.2E0IHW
 

Simon-the-Lesser,

Oh so true...

And : Thanks for your Mag-Loop gems.

Michael

On 04/05/2021 15:10, Mag loop Simon wrote:
Hi Simon Its been like that for donkies though.
... schooling here in Uk is crap..at least i was taught about physics and radio...
This Is the reason why now i am at age 57 are badgering the “older types” for info..
what works say on 160m antennas what does not..etc..knowledge will be lost otherwise.
Secondary, we as ( old, had license for 40 yrs.) hams “ put down” cb operators trying to join us..
WE NEED them!!



Re: The Decline of Ham Radio

Brian Morrison
 

On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 15:10 +0100, Mag loop Simon wrote:
Hi Simon

Its been like that for donkies though.
And yet a recent FoI request to Ofcom was answered with a list of
currently issued callsigns/licences in the UK with >96,000 entries.

But is getting worse.( abit like stamp collecting!) .my kids now 16
up soooooo uninterested in ham radio..why would they be? Internet,
gaming etc..plus schooling here in Uk is crap..atleast i was taught
about physics and radio.( though my english was bad as you may be
able to tell.)
You have to be bloody-minded to want to do things the hard way, schools
teach children to be compliant and not to question received wisdom. Not
like that when I was at school, which is over 40 years ago. We were
taught how to think.

This Is the reason why now i am at age 57 are badgering the “older
types” for info..what works say on 160m antennas what does
not..etc..knowledge will be lost otherwise.
I've just put up a Terminated Folded Dipole, wideband 1.6-30MHz and
easily matched, the termination doesn't absorb much power and it works
really well considering it's at ~20 feet. Originally created in the
late 40s by an amateur who was also in the US Navy. There are lots of
antenna books, but at MF/HF if you don't know about the ground
underneath them then you are going to be guessing.


Secondary,  we as ( old, had license for 40 yrs.) hams “ put down” cb
operators trying to join us..WE NEED them!! Yes one will have to put
up with “ my name here is xyz,” plus a long story about an end feed
long wire feed with a miracle balun,  but that or losing Ham radio? I
chose ex cber! The more the better.
ITYM "the first personal here would be".


Atleast the ex cbers do not sit on 80m jamming like some hams do..
Do they? I have to confess that I can't see the point. Maybe they've
had enough descriptions of back pain and haemorrhoids.


I hate ft8  etc..so boring...but times change.. ( anyone reading my
mini rant, please dont use 400w plus on data..not what it was
designed for.!)
FT8 has become very popular due to a combination of fairly poor HF
propagation, QRN from omnipresent badly-designed electronics and in my
case sharing the shack (lounge) with my wife which makes voice modes a
bit more difficult.


Simon g0zen  ( mini rant over..)
Rants are good. We should all rant more. It's the last weapon against
dictatorship.

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Brian G8SEZ (42 years plus SWL beforehand)


Re: SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

Simon Brown
 

Ah,

 

If it sends out keystrokes then yes, the app (SDR Console) must have focus. Maybe I can write code so that this is not needed, I would have to look at the SDK (API).

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Per
Sent: 04 May 2021 15:04
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console vs. Elgato Stream Deck

 

Thank You for the response!

I have ordered an XL now as they are on offer here locally at the moment, I hope it will be an good addition to SDR Console.

My understanding is that while it works with hotkeys You must always keep the controlled application in focus while with an integration as FRstack (for Flex radio) the buttons will function even when You are in another Windows application?

73 de Per - LA9XKA


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