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Re: New release

Bruce Tanner
 

Now see the video... must have been too quick before. Thanks.

On 11/12/2010 10:00 AM, Bruce Tanner wrote:
I see nothing but 'black screen' on Utube... what should I be seeing?


On 11/12/2010 9:42 AM, Mauno Ritola wrote:
About a minute, but of course much less is enough, just to see the
carriers. In spectral view only a couple of seconds is needed.
I have this also now on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z40JqhREv00

12.11.2010 16:20, Simon HB9DRV kirjoitti:
Hi,

How long is the time interval on the attachment?

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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*From:*sdr-radio-com@...
[mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] *On Behalf Of *Mauno Ritola
*Sent:* 12 November 2010 14:36

I just meant a quick glance with deep zoom on a certain fq to show the
strongest carrier peaks, either as spectral view or waterfall or both as
in Spectravue, please see a separate attachment at the end of this
message of sample screenshot showing (mostly) Asian signals here just
now on 1143 kHz. I tried to upload a video, but the file was too big. It
is slow, but not too slow!

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Re: different type of radio receivers

Mike
 

So do the mod to do an IF tap on the radio, and feed the signal to the SDRIQ.  Then you can use better software to see the signals.

 

Friendly Regards,

 

Mike

 

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Julian Adams
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 8:57 AM
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Subject: Re: [sdr-radio-com] different type of radio receivers

 

 

thank you very much for your quick reply,i did wonder
yes i posted on winrad as well it may be possible.
it's a shame because the receiver is good just the software is crap.
anyway thank you again for the reply,all the best

julian

 

 

From: Simon HB9DRV
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 2:19:19 PM
Subject: RE: [sdr-radio-com] different type of radio receivers

 

Hi,

 

In theory I guess it's possible but in practice I am closely tied with Rfspace so cannot support other commercial solutions at the moment.

 

Sorry, I see you posted in the Winrad forum, that's maybe your best shot for now.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of grizzlyadams1958
Sent: 12 November 2010 12:51
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] different type of radio receivers

 

 

hello i have a question, is it possible to make the software work with an old winradio receiver i have a 1000i i bought many years ago new.
and it works well,but i think the original software is not very good.
its slow and the waterfall part is not real time,and thats a pain.
so just wondering if it was possible.

 
Re: New release

Bruce Tanner
 

I see nothing but 'black screen' on Utube... what should I be seeing?

On 11/12/2010 9:42 AM, Mauno Ritola wrote:
About a minute, but of course much less is enough, just to see the
carriers. In spectral view only a couple of seconds is needed.
I have this also now on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z40JqhREv00

12.11.2010 16:20, Simon HB9DRV kirjoitti:
Hi,

How long is the time interval on the attachment?

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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*From:*sdr-radio-com@...
[mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] *On Behalf Of *Mauno Ritola
*Sent:* 12 November 2010 14:36

I just meant a quick glance with deep zoom on a certain fq to show the
strongest carrier peaks, either as spectral view or waterfall or both as
in Spectravue, please see a separate attachment at the end of this
message of sample screenshot showing (mostly) Asian signals here just
now on 1143 kHz. I tried to upload a video, but the file was too big. It
is slow, but not too slow!

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Re: different type of radio receivers

Julian Adams <grizzlyadams1958@...>
 

thank you very much for your quick reply,i did wonder
yes i posted on winrad as well it may be possible.
it's a shame because the receiver is good just the software is crap.
anyway thank you again for the reply,all the best

julian


From: Simon HB9DRV
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 2:19:19 PM
Subject: RE: [sdr-radio-com] different type of radio receivers

 

Hi,

 

In theory I guess it's possible but in practice I am closely tied with Rfspace so cannot support other commercial solutions at the moment.

 

Sorry, I see you posted in the Winrad forum, that's maybe your best shot for now.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of grizzlyadams1958
Sent: 12 November 2010 12:51
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] different type of radio receivers

 

 

hello i have a question, is it possible to make the software work with an old winradio receiver i have a 1000i i bought many years ago new.
and it works well,but i think the original software is not very good.
its slow and the waterfall part is not real time,and thats a pain.
so just wondering if it was possible.
Full Screen

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Hi,

 

I find I use full screen a lot with build 471 / 472 it's in the top right (472 fixes a bug with full screen support).

 

Try it!

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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Re: New release

Mauno_Ritola
 

About a minute, but of course much less is enough, just to see the carriers. In spectral view only a couple of seconds is needed.
I have this also now on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z40JqhREv00

12.11.2010 16:20, Simon HB9DRV kirjoitti:


Hi,

How long is the time interval on the attachment?

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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*From:*sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] *On Behalf Of *Mauno Ritola
*Sent:* 12 November 2010 14:36

I just meant a quick glance with deep zoom on a certain fq to show the
strongest carrier peaks, either as spectral view or waterfall or both as
in Spectravue, please see a separate attachment at the end of this
message of sample screenshot showing (mostly) Asian signals here just
now on 1143 kHz. I tried to upload a video, but the file was too big. It
is slow, but not too slow!
Re: New release [1 Attachment]

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Hi,

 

How long is the time interval on the attachment?

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Mauno Ritola
Sent: 12 November 2010 14:36

I just meant a quick glance with deep zoom on a certain fq to show the
strongest carrier peaks, either as spectral view or waterfall or both as
in Spectravue, please see a separate attachment at the end of this
message of sample screenshot showing (mostly) Asian signals here just
now on 1143 kHz. I tried to upload a video, but the file was too big. It
is slow, but not too slow!

 
Re: different type of radio receivers

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Hi,

 

In theory I guess it's possible but in practice I am closely tied with Rfspace so cannot support other commercial solutions at the moment.

 

Sorry, I see you posted in the Winrad forum, that's maybe your best shot for now.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

(All E-mail verified to be RFC1149 and RFC2549 compliant)

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of grizzlyadams1958
Sent: 12 November 2010 12:51
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] different type of radio receivers

 

 

hello i have a question, is it possible to make the software work with an old winradio receiver i have a 1000i i bought many years ago new.
and it works well,but i think the original software is not very good.
its slow and the waterfall part is not real time,and thats a pain.
so just wondering if it was possible.
Re: New release

Mauno_Ritola
 

I just meant a quick glance with deep zoom on a certain fq to show the strongest carrier peaks, either as spectral view or waterfall or both as in Spectravue, please see a separate attachment at the end of this message of sample screenshot showing (mostly) Asian signals here just now on 1143 kHz. I tried to upload a video, but the file was too big. It is slow, but not too slow!

73, Mauno

12.11.2010 13:32, Leif Asbrink kirjoitti:


Hi Thomas, Mauno and all,

Also tried the new IQ analyser. That is something which lots of
people
will appreciate. Fantastic resolution and speed to render a frequency.
Unfortunately my Perseus files are not supported - the test was based
on rather small file from SDR-IQ.
Is it not possible to use this better resolution in live listening?
That is what you would do when using Linrad in coherent mode to select
one or another carrier as the phase reference:
http://www.sm5bsz.com/lir/am640/am640.htm
http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/usage/kari/kari.htm

The delay from antenna to loudspeaker becomes very long since the
audio is derived from a backwards transform of a very long transform.
30 milliHz resolution requires 15 mHz spacing between bins.
Data spanning 1/0.015 seconds=66 seconds must be stored before the
FFT process can be started. If your sampling is a 1 MHz you would
need 4*2*1000000*66 = 528 megabytes of raw data as the input to the
second fft in linrad. Twice as much is needed to store the output.
Buffers have to be allocated in sizes that are powers of two so
1 MHz is not possible.

I have made this tool available long ago but nobody has ever
reported any interest so I have not made any attempt to improve it.
It is obvious that one can down-sample to a modest sampling rate like
12 kHz before running the process. Then the need for memory and CPU
power would be very small and one could make buffers span much more time.

Maybe Simon will become interested in developing a more userfriendly
user interface for something like this. The method should be very
powerful for MW DXers who should be able to find situations where
the improvement is much bigger than in the test cases I have uploaded.

73

Leif / SM5BSZ
Spectravue generated files - UTC displayed correctly? (Build 472)

Mark &#92;(G4PCS&#92;) <g4pcs@...>
 

Hi Simon,

I notice I get an hour discrepancy in the time displayed whilst playing files that were recorded by Spectravue during British Summer Time. For example, playing a particular file in Spectravue displays the time as (24/05/10) 14:50z, and the same point in the same file is displayed in SDR-Console as (24/05/10) 15:50z. I'm pretty certain the Spectravue time is correct; I wonder if it stores a UTC offset in the file header separately to the time, that isn't picked up by the console?

Dotting the i's and crossing the t's, the console is damn good :D

Regards,

Mark EI3KD / G4PCS
Re: Build 471

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Hi,

 

Thanks :)

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of David Douglass
Sent: 12 November 2010 13:05
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] Re: Build 471

 

 

Hi Simon,

 

Before reading your response I updated to Build 472, and the issue has now gone away!! Sorry I should have been quicker.

 

Thanks

 

David, VK2NU

 

 

In Tools please select User File Storage, put all the XML files into a ZIP
and send to simon@... *or* send me just
SDRRadioConsoleUserSettings.xml, but I would really like all the files
please.

Then try renaming SDRRadioConsoleUserSettings.xml before starting the
software, has to be a bad setting which hasn't upgraded correctly.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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Re: Build 471

David Douglass <DavidVK2NU@...>
 

Hi Simon,

 
Before reading your response I updated to Build 472, and the issue has now gone away!! Sorry I should have been quicker.
 
Thanks
 
David, VK2NU
 
 

In Tools please select User File Storage, put all the XML files into a ZIP
and send to simon@hb9drv.ch *or* send me just
SDRRadioConsoleUserSettings.xml, but I would really like all the files
please.

Then try renaming SDRRadioConsoleUserSettings.xml before starting the
software, has to be a bad setting which hasn't upgraded correctly.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

(All E-mail verified to be RFC1149 and RFC2549 compliant)
different type of radio receivers

grizzlyadams1958 <grizzlyadams1958@...>
 

hello i have a question, is it possible to make the software work with an old winradio receiver i have a 1000i i bought many years ago new.
and it works well,but i think the original software is not very good.
its slow and the waterfall part is not real time,and thats a pain.
so just wondering if it was possible.
Re: New release

Leif Asbrink
 

Hi Thomas, Mauno and all,

Also tried the new IQ analyser. That is something which lots of people
will appreciate. Fantastic resolution and speed to render a frequency.
Unfortunately my Perseus files are not supported - the test was based
on rather small file from SDR-IQ.
Is it not possible to use this better resolution in live listening?
That is what you would do when using Linrad in coherent mode to select
one or another carrier as the phase reference:
http://www.sm5bsz.com/lir/am640/am640.htm
http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/usage/kari/kari.htm

The delay from antenna to loudspeaker becomes very long since the
audio is derived from a backwards transform of a very long transform.
30 milliHz resolution requires 15 mHz spacing between bins.
Data spanning 1/0.015 seconds=66 seconds must be stored before the
FFT process can be started. If your sampling is a 1 MHz you would
need 4*2*1000000*66 = 528 megabytes of raw data as the input to the
second fft in linrad. Twice as much is needed to store the output.
Buffers have to be allocated in sizes that are powers of two so
1 MHz is not possible.

I have made this tool available long ago but nobody has ever
reported any interest so I have not made any attempt to improve it.
It is obvious that one can down-sample to a modest sampling rate like
12 kHz before running the process. Then the need for memory and CPU
power would be very small and one could make buffers span much more time.

Maybe Simon will become interested in developing a more userfriendly
user interface for something like this. The method should be very
powerful for MW DXers who should be able to find situations where
the improvement is much bigger than in the test cases I have uploaded.

73

Leif / SM5BSZ
Re: Waterfall colour scaling (build 472) - a question. [1 Attachment]

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Hi,

 

OK - now I know exactly what to look for, thanks.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Mark (G4PCS)


screenshot (hopefully) attached. There's a not-too-strong ssb signal in the centre of the waterfall (and lots of birdies :( ), and I hope you can see the dark banding across the bandwidth? There's some latency between the signal and the "visual modulation", like some sort of AGC effect.

 
Re: Waterfall colour scaling (build 472) - a question.

Mark &#92;(G4PCS&#92;) <g4pcs@...>
 

Hi Simon,

screenshot (hopefully) attached. There's a not-too-strong ssb signal in the centre of the waterfall (and lots of birdies :( ), and I hope you can see the dark banding across the bandwidth? There's some latency between the signal and the "visual modulation", like some sort of AGC effect.

(Build 472, playing an IQ data file)

Regards,

Mark EI3KD / G4PCS

From: Simon HB9DRV
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Sent: Friday, 12 November, 2010 10:42:37
Subject: RE: [sdr-radio-com] Waterfall colour scaling (build 472) - a question.

 

Hi,

 

To avoid confusion please post a screenshot as an attachment to an e-mail showing the waterfall and also the Waterfall and Spectrum settings in the RX Options window.

 

Using your settings I'll then be able to reproduce this.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Mark (G4PCS)
Sent: 12 November 2010 11:31
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Cc: simon@...
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] Waterfall colour scaling (build 472) - a question.

 

 

Hi Simon,

display setup:

Scope range set to manual (high = -60dB, low = -130dB).
Waterfall "Auto" deselected.

what I see:
Watching a quiet band, bandwidth set to 150kHz, I've set the above numbers to show me some noise in the waterfall... not a lot, but something nice and "smooth". If a narrowband signal then appears anywhere in that bandwidth I (obviously) see the signal but I also see the noise floor drop, i.e. the rest of the band gets "darker". This has the (very undesireable) visual effect that any signal appearing in the bandwidth of the receiver "modulates" the noise. I don't really understand why this is happening when I have everything that seems to be relevant set to "manual". It's not something I see with (e.g.) Spectravue.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Mark EI3KD / G4PCS
Re: IQ Data File Analysis - available bandwidths?

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Hi,

 

Yes but:

 

1) It'll be much slower...

2) When you resize the window the drawing will be lost as there's too much to save in the process memory.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Mark (G4PCS)
Sent: 12 November 2010 09:02
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Cc: simon@...
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] IQ Data File Analysis - available bandwidths?

 

 

Hi Simon,

loving build 471+.... congratulations!

A request, but by no means a deal-breaker: Would it be possible to provide a "full bandwidth" selection for IQ data file analysis, i.e. to be able to view the entire bandwidth of the recording? It would be a really neat tool for visually reviewing data files, e.g. for activity/propagation. It wouldn't matter if it wasn't of very high resolution, nor if it took a while to display (as long as it was quicker than playing the file in "real" time).

Having fun replaying old files - looking great so far :)

Thanks,

Mark EI3KD / G4PCS
Re: Waterfall colour scaling (build 472) - a question.

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Hi,

 

To avoid confusion please post a screenshot as an attachment to an e-mail showing the waterfall and also the Waterfall and Spectrum settings in the RX Options window.

 

Using your settings I'll then be able to reproduce this.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

(All E-mail verified to be RFC1149 and RFC2549 compliant)

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Mark (G4PCS)
Sent: 12 November 2010 11:31
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Cc: simon@...
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] Waterfall colour scaling (build 472) - a question.

 

 

Hi Simon,

display setup:

Scope range set to manual (high = -60dB, low = -130dB).
Waterfall "Auto" deselected.

what I see:
Watching a quiet band, bandwidth set to 150kHz, I've set the above numbers to show me some noise in the waterfall... not a lot, but something nice and "smooth". If a narrowband signal then appears anywhere in that bandwidth I (obviously) see the signal but I also see the noise floor drop, i.e. the rest of the band gets "darker". This has the (very undesireable) visual effect that any signal appearing in the bandwidth of the receiver "modulates" the noise. I don't really understand why this is happening when I have everything that seems to be relevant set to "manual". It's not something I see with (e.g.) Spectravue.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Mark EI3KD / G4PCS
Waterfall colour scaling (build 472) - a question.

Mark &#92;(G4PCS&#92;) <g4pcs@...>
 

Hi Simon,

display setup:

Scope range set to manual (high = -60dB, low = -130dB).
Waterfall "Auto" deselected.

what I see:
Watching a quiet band, bandwidth set to 150kHz, I've set the above numbers to show me some noise in the waterfall... not a lot, but something nice and "smooth". If a narrowband signal then appears anywhere in that bandwidth I (obviously) see the signal but I also see the noise floor drop, i.e. the rest of the band gets "darker". This has the (very undesireable) visual effect that any signal appearing in the bandwidth of the receiver "modulates" the noise. I don't really understand why this is happening when I have everything that seems to be relevant set to "manual". It's not something I see with (e.g.) Spectravue.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Mark EI3KD / G4PCS
Re: Play IQ Data file - waterfall timestamp error after time-skipping (Build 472)

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Oh Lordy!

 

It's a bug, many thanks :)

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com

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From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Mark (G4PCS)
Sent: 12 November 2010 10:56
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Cc: simon@...
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] Play IQ Data file - waterfall timestamp error after time-skipping (Build 472)

 

 

Hi Simon,

"Time navigation" using any of the relevant controls when playing a data file works fine, but I noticed that the time-lines on the waterfall (if selected) don't get updated correctly after skipping. Effectively, they seem to be reset to the start time of the recording, no matter where in the file one has navigated to.

Regards,

Mark EI3KD / G4PCS
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