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Beta features not in the current release ??
#sdrconsole
I came across a you tube video that demo's the SRD Console V3 Beta ... In it has some features I would really like to have..
I have the latest version on SDR Console I have loaded is Version 3.1 build 2320 Compiled Aug 2 2021. I thought this would contain all the features I say in the video but if does NOT ??! I can not find how to do this. Perhaps someone could direct me where I can get this beta version. I especially like to see the the Band plan ... Being a ham that has been out operation for awhile this is a very nice feature to highlight sections of the band .. and it can be modified if need for other info ... Like a bar at the bottom of the spectrum it could reflect the CW portion of the band or you might add a digital mode like PSK or RTTY .. In the Beta version it was very nicely done ... I am constantly having to configure UNO and sometime I think I spend more timing doing this ...then actually listening. [Simon I have followed this program forever .. and I think it is the best !] Wish there are more You Tube videos ... with tips for all the different configurable optiond ... I tried to get adjusted to UNO... but I have an ANAN 100 that I would love to get this program working with it... Thanks to you .. my retirement is going be better ! |
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Re: Pluto:: Spurious Emissions
Siegfried Jackstien
NEVER NEVER NEVER USE OFFSET ON THE BIRD!!! not with lime and not with the pluto
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otherwise a spurii may cause trouble on another ones frequency!! offset is ONLY used in local terrestrical contacts (that the carriers rest does not block your rx signal) but then you maybe would not use fullduplex but halfduplex fullduplex may work with local contacts on a repeater but then also no offset is needed (repeater gives the offset so rx and tx are already not on same qrg) Simon .. in my view you could/should complete delete the offset setting in radio setup and set it fixed to 0kc if you have not found a good iq calibration (lime is a good example) then that carrier rest is at your 0hz spot and does not hurt other qsos (and you see it in if view and press tx calibration till it is gone) ... if you use an offset of say plus or minus 50 or 100 kc (or whatever) you may send out that carrier rest on another spot and do not see it (in first view) you even may transmit outside the band (and thats for sure not ok!!) so repeat ... NEVER NEVER EVER use offset tuning!!!! greetz sigi dg9bfc Am 27.01.2022 um 23:02 schrieb Simon Brown: Don't forget optional offset tuning. |
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Re: Pluto:: Spurious Emissions
Siegfried Jackstien
hello jacques
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i measured the spurious emissions on 13 cm from the pluto ... sdrc is not causing that ... it is an slight iq imbalance (so where it is depends on where you transmit) ... these spurii are lower when you use lower power but they are still there thats why i recommend to add a bit more gain behind the pluto and use lower drive settings in it to be in fcc rules you should keep the power VERY LOW if you keep the pwr of the pluto at (example) -20 dbm you have -58 to -60 dbc (level of spurii compared to tune signal) and if then (depending on dish size and amp) your signal is at 40 db over noise the spurii are still 20 db below transpondernoise (and 40 db is already OVER beacon level!!) so ... what you see and measure is quite normal on the pluto sidenote a good warmed up pluto and a stable clock results in cleaner signals cause the iq calculation on boot shows better results the chips spread a bit as the results differ a bit from boot up to boot up (no idea why .. maybe rounding errors on the iq calibration?!?) but if you keep the drive lower the spurii fall below transpondernoise and will not hurt anybody greetz sigi dg9bfc Am 27.01.2022 um 13:08 schrieb Jacques RAMBAUD: taken transmiting a Tune |
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Re: Pluto:: Spurious Emissions
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From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Siegfried Jackstien Sent: 27 January 2022 21:56 To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Pluto:: Spurious Emissions bonjour jacques at first ... do not use tune tone at that high level (leila is already crying outcause you are way over beacon level!!) second ... your pluto setup is NOT tuned correct (you should not have an xit setting of -10kc) and third ... your lnb setting should be (after tuning xo correction) set that you get the beacon closer to 750 ;-) dg9bfc sigi ps if you do not know how to set up ... just ask .. i will help you Am 27.01.2022 um 13:08 schrieb Jacques RAMBAUD: taken transmiting a Tune -- - + - + - Please use https://forum.sdr-radio.com:4499/ when posting questions or problems. |
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Re: Pluto:: Spurious Emissions
Siegfried Jackstien
bonjour jacques
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at first ... do not use tune tone at that high level (leila is already crying outcause you are way over beacon level!!) second ... your pluto setup is NOT tuned correct (you should not have an xit setting of -10kc) and third ... your lnb setting should be (after tuning xo correction) set that you get the beacon closer to 750 ;-) dg9bfc sigi ps if you do not know how to set up ... just ask .. i will help you Am 27.01.2022 um 13:08 schrieb Jacques RAMBAUD: taken transmiting a Tune |
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Re: Console Signal meter reading
DUO is very probably not seeing the same signal level as the 3000.
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I do agree that a per-radio signal calibration is needed. Simon Brown, G4ELI https://www.sdr-radio.com -----Original Message-----
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mag loop Simon Sent: 27 January 2022 20:50 To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Console Signal meter reading Hi again Thinking about this..I wonder if the duo with sdrc is “ not seeing “ what the 3000 is..ie duo is “ seeing “ the whole rx spectrum and hence not adjusting its signal level when the phaser is in operation? Sorry for poor explanation, but qro amps, antennas etc are my thing..still much to learn about sdr’s.. I do use antenna out to drive the duo, maybe i should use if out( with suitable if offset settings on sdrc) Ps the Cornwall 160-40m special amp is coming along nicely.. Re s meter on sdrc vs 3000.. s1 on 3000= s3.5 on sdrc…s5 on 3000 =s4 on sdrc, would be nice to be able to adjust s meter or linearity on spectrum to match. Thanks Other Simon -- - + - + - Please use https://forum.sdr-radio.com:4499/ when posting questions or problems. |
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Re: Console Signal meter reading
Hi again
Thinking about this..I wonder if the duo with sdrc is “ not seeing “ what the 3000 is..ie duo is “ seeing “ the whole rx spectrum and hence not adjusting its signal level when the phaser is in operation? Sorry for poor explanation, but qro amps, antennas etc are my thing..still much to learn about sdr’s.. I do use antenna out to drive the duo, maybe i should use if out( with suitable if offset settings on sdrc) Ps the Cornwall 160-40m special amp is coming along nicely.. Re s meter on sdrc vs 3000.. s1 on 3000= s3.5 on sdrc…s5 on 3000 =s4 on sdrc, would be nice to be able to adjust s meter or linearity on spectrum to match. Thanks Other Simon |
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Re: Console Signal meter reading
Simon
Will there be away to “adjust” the relative s meter reading on sdrc ever? I ask as it would be nice to have it adjustable ( say the scale on the side of waterfall/ spectrum) so as to read the same as main rx. To explain I use the elad duo as a second rx and panadapter on my ftdx3000. The s meter readings are often well out mainly below s7. ( ie 3000 says s3..sdrc says s5 or 6) As i use phasers against noise antennas here, it would be very very useful to see the decrease in general noise floor when adjusting. The 3000 s meter shows this but not the sdrc s meter.( when fine tuning.it just stays the same.) Hopefully i have explained this to your understanding? ? By the way house for sale in 3 months!! Cornwall here we come..looking at properties between truro and helston..will take bribes to move nearer bude.. Simon g0zen |
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Re: Console Signal meter reading
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From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Need via groups.io
Sent: 27 January 2022 19:04 To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Console Signal meter reading
SDR Console does not use the correction tables for signal levels provided by SDRplay for S meter calibration so the readings are way off. SDRuno does use these tables and readings are accurate to +/-1 dBm. I have verified this with my signal generator using both programs. -- - + - + -
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Re: Console Signal meter reading
SDR Console does not use the correction tables for signal levels provided by SDRplay for S meter calibration so the readings are way off. SDRuno does use these tables and readings are accurate to +/-1 dBm. I have verified this with my signal generator using both programs.
Another related issue. There was a long debate a while ago in this group about whether the S meter should indicate the total average power in the selected bandwidth or the power of the strongest signal (like the carrier for AM reception). I believe SDR Console measures the latter and SDRuno measures the former. Roger |
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Re: V3.1 Beta
Francesco Di Giovanni
Thank you, Simon.
73 Francesco, IN3XZP |
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Re: Pluto:: Spurious Emissions
Jacques RAMBAUD
taken transmiting a Tune
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jacques F6BKI Le 27/01/2022 à 11:40, Simon Brown a écrit :
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Re: Pluto:: Spurious Emissions
OK,
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May I have a screenshot taken while generating the signal shown in the spectrum analyser please. Simon Brown, G4ELI https://www.sdr-radio.com -----Original Message-----
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacques RAMBAUD Sent: 27 January 2022 11:38 To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Pluto:: Spurious Emissions Hi Simon, Here is the screen shot 73 jacques F6BKI Le 27/01/2022 à 11:17, Simon Brown a écrit : Hi, -- - + - + - Please use https://forum.sdr-radio.com:4499/ when posting questions or problems. |
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Re: Pluto:: Spurious Emissions
Jacques RAMBAUD
Hi Simon,
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Here is the screen shot 73 jacques F6BKI Le 27/01/2022 à 11:17, Simon Brown a écrit :
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Re: Pluto:: Spurious Emissions
Ken Sejkora
Hello Jacques,
Based on the image, it look as though you are using an external spectrum analyzer to measure an RF emission *FROM* your Pluto. I wouldn't think that SDR Console would be the cause of that spurious emission, but rather it is originating in the Pluto hardware itself. Does the emission still exist even when the Pluto is not being 'operated' by SDR Console, that is, with SDRC not activated? Is the emission still present if operating the Pluto with SDR software *other* than SDRC? I would suspect the spurious emission is being generated by the Pluto itself, and has nothing to do with SDRC. Just my guess anyway. I hope it helps. Good luck and 73 Ken -- WBØOCV |
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Re: Pluto:: Spurious Emissions
Hi,
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You MUST add a proper screenshot of Console, I have no idea what settings you are using. Simon Brown, G4ELI https://www.sdr-radio.com -----Original Message-----
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacques RAMBAUD Sent: 27 January 2022 10:58 To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Pluto:: Spurious Emissions Hello Simon and all, Using now the SDR Console v3.1 build 2496 and still have the same RF spurious as before out of my Pluto , see attached picture. Is it normal ? 73 jacques F6BKI -- - + - + - Please use https://forum.sdr-radio.com:4499/ when posting questions or problems. |
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Re: Pluto:: Spurious Emissions
Jacques RAMBAUD
Hello Simon and all,
Using now the SDR Console v3.1 build 2496 and still have the same RF spurious as before out of my Pluto , see attached picture. Is it normal ? 73 jacques F6BKI |
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Re: Problem with Adalm-Pluto SDR's USB
#adalmpluto
cedric@...
Wrong guess. Ground mod has been done long time ago. Made it better, but did not solve it completely. Crossing my fingers that it is now 100% stable. At first it would crash randomly. After the ground mod only when the lights in my basement (with motion detector) went on. Now with the DC-DC convertor, it stays working event if the basement lights go on.
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Re: Problem with Adalm-Pluto SDR's USB
#adalmpluto
Siegfried Jackstien
let me do a guess ...its a revision b and you did not do the
ground mod yet ... (just a short bridge inside) yes THEN it is sensitive ;-) dg9bfc Am 26.01.2022 um 08:33 schrieb
cedric@...:
Update on my setup: I now use a low noise DC-DC convertor by SV1AFN to power the pluto. I need 12V for other parts of the setup, so by using this convertor I only need 1 supply voltage. Pluto is stable now. It seems to be very touchy for any fluctuations on its 5V supply. |
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V3.1 Beta
V3.1 beta updated, an important fatal crash has been found - finally!
https://forum.sdr-radio.com:4499/viewtopic.php?p=7861#p7861
Simon Brown, G4ELI
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