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Re: Windows 11

Gregory Schippers
 

GParted under Linux will fix it. 
Greg, KC8HXO


Re: Windows 11

Brian Morrison
 

On Fri, 2021-08-20 at 13:25 -0400, Jerry Lofstead wrote:
WIN 10 good till 2025

Well, supported...

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Re: Windows 11

Jerry Lofstead W3CDE
 

WIN 10 good till 2025

jerry


On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 6:44 AM Jim Smith G0OFE <sdr-radio@...> wrote:

Wonder how long it will be before we are force-upgraded to W11?

================================
Need help with SDR Console? If you have a problem:
Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support
Please follow instructions in that link.
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Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers
8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF


On 20/08/2021 09:18, Simon Brown wrote:

Tom,

 

If W10 works OK then stick with it. I do like the UI with W11 – very nice.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Crosbie G6PZZ
Sent: 20 August 2021 09:37
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

I was wondering if I should upgrade to W11 or not. I think I’ll wait for reports about other apps, OmniRig, etc. before I do though as I don’t have a spare machine at the moment.

 

Tom G6PZZ

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 20 August 2021 08:03
To: sdr-radio@groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

Hi,

 

Running the very latest Windows 11 on a Dell i5 laptop, SDR Console running very smoothly.

 

  • Shower
  • Dog walk
  • Bugs…

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 


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Re: Windows 11

G3TDJ
 
Edited

The Arm64 Dev Windows 11 runs very well on the Raspberry Pi 4 (4GB) on a 32 GB SD card

SDR Console runs fine in Low Power mode - 9% CPU and 760 MB memory - the (built in) X86_64 emulation is seamless

Only Windows USB drivers function, third party USB drivers will not, so AirspHF-D is OK as source


Re: Windows 11

Jerry Lofstead W3CDE
 

Alan,
Send me an email direct and I will send you a program that will format any SD card or stick.

Jerry   W3CDE@...


On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 7:30 AM Allan Isaacs <allan@...> wrote:

One of the published tricks I tried Jerry led me to make a USB stick with Win11 on it.

It didn’t work and now the USB stick doesn’t work on my Win7 or Win10 computers.

The equivalent of bricking I guess…

Allan G3PIY

 


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io [mailto:main@SDR-Radio.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Lofstead
Sent: 20 August 2021 12:23
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

Simon et all:

 

There is a workaround for PCs that do not meet the WIN11 requirements. 

 

 


Re: Windows 11

Allan Isaacs
 

One of the published tricks I tried Jerry led me to make a USB stick with Win11 on it.

It didn’t work and now the USB stick doesn’t work on my Win7 or Win10 computers.

The equivalent of bricking I guess…

Allan G3PIY

 


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io [mailto:main@SDR-Radio.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Lofstead
Sent: 20 August 2021 12:23
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

Simon et all:

 

There is a workaround for PCs that do not meet the WIN11 requirements. 

 

 


Re: Windows 11

Jerry Lofstead W3CDE
 

Simon et all:

There is a workaround for PCs that do not meet the WIN11 requirements. 


On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 5:18 AM Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:

Tom,

 

If W10 works OK then stick with it. I do like the UI with W11 – very nice.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Crosbie G6PZZ
Sent: 20 August 2021 09:37
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

I was wondering if I should upgrade to W11 or not. I think I’ll wait for reports about other apps, OmniRig, etc. before I do though as I don’t have a spare machine at the moment.

 

Tom G6PZZ

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 20 August 2021 08:03
To: sdr-radio@groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

Hi,

 

Running the very latest Windows 11 on a Dell i5 laptop, SDR Console running very smoothly.

 

  • Shower
  • Dog walk
  • Bugs…

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 


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Re: Windows 11

Allan Isaacs
 

You're right David.
I downloaded a copy recently and it failed to load on my computer.
That only had Windows 10 installed because a patch was supplied by the
motherboard manufacturer.
Allan G3PIY

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From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io [mailto:main@SDR-Radio.groups.io] On Behalf
Of David J Taylor via groups.io
Sent: 20 August 2021 11:48
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

On 20/08/2021 11:44, Jim Smith G0OFE wrote:
Wonder how long it will be before we are force-upgraded to W11?
Unless you have a PC which meets the requirements, you won't be able to
upgrade.

David


Re: Windows 11

David J Taylor
 

On 20/08/2021 11:44, Jim Smith G0OFE wrote:
Wonder how long it will be before we are force-upgraded to W11?
Unless you have a PC which meets the requirements, you won't be able to upgrade.

David
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Re: Windows 11

Simon Brown
 

I think a couple of years. Under the hood it’s unchanged, it’s very much some very nice UI work.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Smith G0OFE
Sent: 20 August 2021 11:44
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

Wonder how long it will be before we are force-upgraded to W11?

================================
Need help with SDR Console? If you have a problem:
Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support
Please follow instructions in that link.
===================================
Jim, Bournemouth, Dorset. IO90BR.
Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers
8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF

On 20/08/2021 09:18, Simon Brown wrote:

Tom,

 

If W10 works OK then stick with it. I do like the UI with W11 – very nice.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Crosbie G6PZZ
Sent: 20 August 2021 09:37
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

I was wondering if I should upgrade to W11 or not. I think I’ll wait for reports about other apps, OmniRig, etc. before I do though as I don’t have a spare machine at the moment.

 

Tom G6PZZ

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 20 August 2021 08:03
To: sdr-radio@groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

Hi,

 

Running the very latest Windows 11 on a Dell i5 laptop, SDR Console running very smoothly.

 

·       Shower

·       Dog walk

·       Bugs…

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 


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Re: Windows 11

Jim Smith G0OFE
 

Wonder how long it will be before we are force-upgraded to W11?

================================
Need help with SDR Console? If you have a problem:
Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support
Please follow instructions in that link.
===================================
Jim, Bournemouth, Dorset. IO90BR.
Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers
8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF


On 20/08/2021 09:18, Simon Brown wrote:

Tom,

 

If W10 works OK then stick with it. I do like the UI with W11 – very nice.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Crosbie G6PZZ
Sent: 20 August 2021 09:37
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

I was wondering if I should upgrade to W11 or not. I think I’ll wait for reports about other apps, OmniRig, etc. before I do though as I don’t have a spare machine at the moment.

 

Tom G6PZZ

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 20 August 2021 08:03
To: sdr-radio@groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

Hi,

 

Running the very latest Windows 11 on a Dell i5 laptop, SDR Console running very smoothly.

 

  • Shower
  • Dog walk
  • Bugs…

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 


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Re: Windows 11

Simon Brown
 

Tom,

 

If W10 works OK then stick with it. I do like the UI with W11 – very nice.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Crosbie G6PZZ
Sent: 20 August 2021 09:37
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

I was wondering if I should upgrade to W11 or not. I think I’ll wait for reports about other apps, OmniRig, etc. before I do though as I don’t have a spare machine at the moment.

 

Tom G6PZZ

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 20 August 2021 08:03
To: sdr-radio@groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

Hi,

 

Running the very latest Windows 11 on a Dell i5 laptop, SDR Console running very smoothly.

 

  • Shower
  • Dog walk
  • Bugs…

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 


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Re: Windows 11

Tom Crosbie G6PZZ
 

I was wondering if I should upgrade to W11 or not. I think I’ll wait for reports about other apps, OmniRig, etc. before I do though as I don’t have a spare machine at the moment.

 

Tom G6PZZ

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 20 August 2021 08:03
To: sdr-radio@groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Windows 11

 

Hi,

 

Running the very latest Windows 11 on a Dell i5 laptop, SDR Console running very smoothly.

 

  • Shower
  • Dog walk
  • Bugs…

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 


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Windows 11

Simon Brown
 

Hi,

 

Running the very latest Windows 11 on a Dell i5 laptop, SDR Console running very smoothly.

 

  • Shower
  • Dog walk
  • Bugs…

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 


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Re: Oscillator Calibration

MikeC
 

Just for the sake of information completeness if you are going to revisit the code in that area, I think the ppm correction is not applied to the transmit frequency. Also I think it may be applied to the display frequency on receive, not taking account of any up/down converter. Also the band detect for the GPIO pins is derived from the output frequency not the display so not taking account of up/down converters. Fairly trivial issues, but you might like to check when looking at Lime support.

 

Mike  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 


Re: Oscillator Calibration

MikeC
 

Probably a while ago....

 

I wanted to check there is not an obvious setting, but I don’t think there is.

 

If you are re-visiting the Lime I still notice this peculiar issue where on transmit it generates a comb of fixed pattern noise. Stopping the receive stream and restarting, checking each time, will find a start that does not do it. Its like something is not getting initialised or initialised wrongly sometimes. When you do get back to the Lime I could send you some more info. It does it on more than one pc, and, although I only have one Lime here, I don’t think its a hardware fault.

 

Great software by the way.

 

Mike

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 


Re: Oscillator Calibration

Simon Brown
 

Hi,

 

I don’t remember. Lime support will be revisited very soon…

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of MikeC
Sent: 19 August 2021 14:19
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Oscillator Calibration

 

 

I use SDRC with the LimeSDR.

 

Re-visiting my calibration settings today I have a question. When I add a ppm correction to the main oscillator using a known received signal (in my case -0.25ppm) it appears only to affect the receiver. Transmit frequencies are then offset with respect to indicated frequency by an amount proportional to the frequency and the ppm. Is this correct, or have I missed a setting so that the correction applies to both?

 

Mike

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


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Oscillator Calibration

MikeC
 

 

I use SDRC with the LimeSDR.

 

Re-visiting my calibration settings today I have a question. When I add a ppm correction to the main oscillator using a known received signal (in my case -0.25ppm) it appears only to affect the receiver. Transmit frequencies are then offset with respect to indicated frequency by an amount proportional to the frequency and the ppm. Is this correct, or have I missed a setting so that the correction applies to both?

 

Mike

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


Re: Latency with RSPduo #rspduo (More) #rspduo

Larry Dodd
 

Simon,
Thank you so much. Your attention to detail and response to users requests is extraordinary. SDR Console is a fantastic program because of your efforts. You set an example to all programmers for how it should be done. Very much appreciated. Time for everyone to hit the donate box. Cheers!
Larry, K4LED 

On Aug 19, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:



So,

 

I’ve spent this morning revisiting the buffering for SDRplay devices and found an area where I’ve been able to greatly improve the latency but buffering the data from RSP devices (indeed most SDRs) is essential as there’s no guarantee that they reliably return data at the selected sample rate. Even a difference of 0.01% causes problems, the SDR can overrun or underrun. I notice the data rate change gently as the device warms up, once warm it’s stable.

 

Anyway, the latency is now much better, I’ve also given the priority of the SDRplay service (sdrplay_apiService.exe) a boost to high which IMO should be done as the default priority of Normal requires sharing resources with programs such as browser.

 

This priority change and the coding changes have helped, there will be a kit for the test team later today, tomorrow at the latest.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 19 August 2021 06:50
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Latency with RSPduo #rspduo

 

Hi,

 

Looking at the SDRplay support in SDR Console I see old code from the first version with 100ms buffering, the more recent SDRplay APIs (V3) have very, very low latency so I’ve just removed the need for this buffering.

 

This change will be in the next update to v3.1.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robin Francis
Sent: 19 August 2021 03:52
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Latency with RSPduo #rspduo

 

Totally unscientific measurement:

SDR-duo to SDR Console 3.1 to WSJY gave average DT of 800 ms

RX-888 to SDR-console to WSJT gave average DT of 300 ms.

Console 3.1 was showing audio of 55ms

Computer time from local university SNTP server and Dimention 4.

 

Both these are more than usual . Last time I looked it I saw less than 100ms for RX-888 path and 300 for SDR-Duo path. Of course one is from USB2 port  and one from USB3.

Robin

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


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Re: Latency with RSPduo #rspduo (More) #rspduo

Simon Brown
 

So,

 

I’ve spent this morning revisiting the buffering for SDRplay devices and found an area where I’ve been able to greatly improve the latency but buffering the data from RSP devices (indeed most SDRs) is essential as there’s no guarantee that they reliably return data at the selected sample rate. Even a difference of 0.01% causes problems, the SDR can overrun or underrun. I notice the data rate change gently as the device warms up, once warm it’s stable.

 

Anyway, the latency is now much better, I’ve also given the priority of the SDRplay service (sdrplay_apiService.exe) a boost to high which IMO should be done as the default priority of Normal requires sharing resources with programs such as browser.

 

This priority change and the coding changes have helped, there will be a kit for the test team later today, tomorrow at the latest.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 19 August 2021 06:50
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Latency with RSPduo #rspduo

 

Hi,

 

Looking at the SDRplay support in SDR Console I see old code from the first version with 100ms buffering, the more recent SDRplay APIs (V3) have very, very low latency so I’ve just removed the need for this buffering.

 

This change will be in the next update to v3.1.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robin Francis
Sent: 19 August 2021 03:52
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Latency with RSPduo #rspduo

 

Totally unscientific measurement:

SDR-duo to SDR Console 3.1 to WSJY gave average DT of 800 ms

RX-888 to SDR-console to WSJT gave average DT of 300 ms.

Console 3.1 was showing audio of 55ms

Computer time from local university SNTP server and Dimention 4.

 

Both these are more than usual . Last time I looked it I saw less than 100ms for RX-888 path and 300 for SDR-Duo path. Of course one is from USB2 port  and one from USB3.

Robin

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


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