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Re: One more newbie question

jdow
 

Sigi = SDRSharp does this, too. SDRC is what happens when SDRSharp grows up and sheds it the GUI library it's using.

{^_-}

On 20220213 16:05:32, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:

you have to do 5 runs in analyzing but you have smaller files (so a bit faster loading time)

we have a few users here who do such recording regularly (and analyze band openings, grey line conditions etc.)

i am quite sure that simon will not explain exactly what is working under the hood ... but in fact all these sdr software do the same things (just with a different user frontend aka gui)

the most differences are dictated from the sdr hardware you use ... be it a direct mixer (0hz if) down to soundcard frequencies (example a funcube dongle) .. or be it an rtl stick (low if of a few megs but the driver makes it a real iq signal) .. or be it a direct sampler with a super fast adc converter ... or an sdr with a transceiver chip like pluto or lime

some good examples can be seen if you look on how gnu radio companion works ... there you see the different building blocks (adc conversion, downsampling, filters, decoding ... sending audio to a sink etc etc) ... in fact these sdr software work quite similar if you have the same fronend (hardware) connected

just the look and feel is very different

dg9bfc sigi

ps and i love how the sdrc v3 looks :-) cause you can dock different front end blocks like you like it ... or complete switch a block off


Am 13.02.2022 um 22:20 schrieb michel soldevila:
Hi group,
A very basic question, sorry:
with SDR Console, I could record the I and Q signals over the full bandwidth of my RSP-2 SDR, i.e. 10MHz. I could also do 5 recordings of 2MHz bandwidth.
What will be the practical differences when I want to analyze these recordings with the data file analyzer to isolate specific signals?

BTW, I'm looking for a document that explains more and better than with a block diagram the operation of an SDR and the processing (decimation ans so on) that comes under the software (SDR Console in my case)

73, Michel (F1GOC)


Re: One more newbie question

Siegfried Jackstien
 

you have to do 5 runs in analyzing but you have smaller files (so a bit faster loading time)

we have a few users here who do such recording regularly (and analyze band openings, grey line conditions etc.)

i am quite sure that simon will not explain exactly what is working under the hood ... but in fact all these sdr software do the same things (just with a different user frontend aka gui)

the most differences are dictated from the sdr hardware you use ... be it a direct mixer (0hz if) down to soundcard frequencies (example a funcube dongle) .. or be it an rtl stick (low if of a few megs but the driver makes it a real iq signal) .. or be it a direct sampler with a super fast adc converter ... or an sdr with a transceiver chip like pluto or lime

some good examples can be seen if you look on how gnu radio companion works ... there you see the different building blocks (adc conversion, downsampling, filters, decoding ... sending audio to a sink etc etc) ... in fact these sdr software work quite similar if you have the same fronend (hardware) connected

just the look and feel is very different

dg9bfc sigi

ps and i love how the sdrc v3 looks :-) cause you can dock different front end blocks like you like it ... or complete switch a block off


Am 13.02.2022 um 22:20 schrieb michel soldevila:

Hi group,
A very basic question, sorry:
with SDR Console, I could record the I and Q signals over the full bandwidth of my RSP-2 SDR, i.e. 10MHz. I could also do 5 recordings of 2MHz bandwidth.
What will be the practical differences when I want to analyze these recordings with the data file analyzer to isolate specific signals?

BTW, I'm looking for a document that explains more and better than with a block diagram the operation of an SDR and the processing (decimation ans so on) that comes under the software (SDR Console in my case)

73, Michel (F1GOC)


Re: US bandplan

jdow
 

When bands overlap it would be nice to be able to create horizontal color bands with the primary class on top working down to ISM uses on the bottom. (Warning - snob snarky  statement) Any ham who needs the color bands just flunked his license re-exam except the FCC never does this.

{^_-}

On 20220213 14:12:04, bwschober@... wrote:

Dominic,

I tried to use a consistent color scheme based on the default plan that Simon included in the Beta, but found myself having inconsistencies and variations.  I tried to have colors for each use type, dark blue for broadcast, dark red for person to person, light green for marine, dark green for aviation.  I think your light blue was a better choice for marine.  Then I tried to have different colors for the different modes, CW, digital, voice, ...  Next I tried to make sure there was a noticeable change when one band plan transitioned to another.  I tried to avoid layering the band plans, but did it when I thought it was worthwhile, like showing the General class allowed ranges on  80, 40, and 20 Meter.  I just noticed that I missed 15M.  I also overlapped the ISM, WiFi and 13cm Ham bands.

I would be open to working with you and others to come up with a consistent color scheme and a more complete band and marker plan.

Bruce


Re: US bandplan

Siegfried Jackstien
 

Once you have the file on your computer, in SDR Console click Band Plan in the View ribbon, click select, and navigate to the band plan file.  To load the markers, click View ,click down arrow under Markers, click … , XML Import.  Make sure the enable is clicked in the Marker configuration window.

Am 13.02.2022 um 23:29 schrieb michel soldevila:

Seems very useful, but how do I use this file in SDR Console ?
73, Michel (F1GOC)


Re: US bandplan

bwschober@...
 

The band plan only works with V3.1 beta.  Some people have had problems accessing the .xml files.  I have also put them on Dropbox here: 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tcz24f88tenu5eh/AADjfk9uHdj-EhW8QjAo2BvAa?dl=0.

Once you have the file on your computer, in SDR Console click Band Plan in the View ribbon, click select, and navigate to the band plan file.  To load the markers, click View ,click down arrow under Markers, click … , XML Import.  Make sure the enable is clicked in the Marker configuration window.



Re: US bandplan

bwschober@...
 

Dominic,

I tried to use a consistent color scheme based on the default plan that Simon included in the Beta, but found myself having inconsistencies and variations.  I tried to have colors for each use type, dark blue for broadcast, dark red for person to person, light green for marine, dark green for aviation.  I think your light blue was a better choice for marine.  Then I tried to have different colors for the different modes, CW, digital, voice, ...  Next I tried to make sure there was a noticeable change when one band plan transitioned to another.  I tried to avoid layering the band plans, but did it when I thought it was worthwhile, like showing the General class allowed ranges on  80, 40, and 20 Meter.  I just noticed that I missed 15M.  I also overlapped the ISM, WiFi and 13cm Ham bands.

I would be open to working with you and others to come up with a consistent color scheme and a more complete band and marker plan.

Bruce


Re: US bandplan

michel soldevila
 

Seems very useful, but how do I use this file in SDR Console ?
73, Michel (F1GOC)


One more newbie question

michel soldevila
 

Hi group,
A very basic question, sorry:
with SDR Console, I could record the I and Q signals over the full bandwidth of my RSP-2 SDR, i.e. 10MHz. I could also do 5 recordings of 2MHz bandwidth.
What will be the practical differences when I want to analyze these recordings with the data file analyzer to isolate specific signals?

BTW, I'm looking for a document that explains more and better than with a block diagram the operation of an SDR and the processing (decimation ans so on) that comes under the software (SDR Console in my case)

73, Michel (F1GOC)


Re: US bandplan

Dominic Dambro
 

Excellent work, Bruce- thank you. Works perfectly.
I had actually begun doing the same thing, using info from among other places, this site;
https://www.hobbyprojects.com/radio_frequency_allocations_to_30_mhz.html

Your hard work will save me lots of time and crossed eyes! (You really should've consulted with me on the colors, though. Geez.)

Yours;


Mine;


Thanks,
Dominic


Re: US bandplan

w3wtw@...
 

I'm not sure if a previous post has to be approved.?.

Thank, Bruce. How do I use these? I'm new to SDR Console. 


Re: US bandplan

w3wtw@...
 

Thank you.  I'm new to SDR. How do I use these? 


Re: Tricky drive level setting for SDR Console to Pluto, QO100

Siegfried Jackstien
 

i do a teamviewer meeting with chris to help him with the levels

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 13.02.2022 um 08:58 schrieb Simon Brown:

One thing - you can always use the mouse wheel to adjust a slider.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon
Brown
Sent: 13 February 2022 06:48
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Tricky drive level setting for SDR Console to
Pluto, QO100

Hi,

A few screenshots would help.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Wilson
Sent: 12 February 2022 11:51
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Tricky drive level setting for SDR Console to Pluto,
QO100

12 February 2022

I wonder if anyone can kindly help me with a drive issue I am having with my
PlutoSDR and transmitting to the QO100 satellite via the narrow band
transponder using SDR Console please?


Recently I am finding setting the drive level is incredibly tricky. Using
the Tone or Tune functions in SDR Console a tad too much drive level and the
Leila, the satellite's too great a signal level warning is triggered. I
reduce drive until it is no longer triggered and all is OK for some seconds,
then it is triggered again, as if my power is increasing of its own accord.


Once I find an acceptable level by very fine manipulation of the drive
slider but I then find that after a period of reception there is no longer
enough drive to set the Pluto / amp into TX again.


This appears to be a recent problem, as a while ago when I was on the narrow
band transponder with SSB I didn't seem to have so much of an issue.


My set up is Windows 7 64 bit, SDR Console V 3.1, LAN connection to my Pluto
at the base of my 1.8 meter prime focus dish. The Pluto is driving an
Analogue Devices CN0417 pre amp driving an SG labs 20W amp via a 6dB
attenuator, which in turn is triggered by its VOX PTT. The SG Labs amp then
feeds the POTY antenna via a short length of low loss co-ax.


MAYBE the attenuator is between the Pluto and the CN0417, I can't reliably
recall, and I am at work.


My own, novice, thoughts are that to trigger the SG labs amp via VOX is
needing enough drive power to put its output around the trigger point of
Leila. Does that sound feasible? What about the rise in output when TX'ing,
and the fact a signal level adjusted down when operating with Tune or Tone
to stop triggering Leila becomes insufficient to set the ensemble into TX at
the next transmission?


Thanks for any advice. I could JUST get a signal on SSB with only the
CN0417, before I got the SG labs amp. I wanted a good deal more power as I
also run the set up on DATV on the wide band QO100 transponder. Best
regards, Chris, 2E0ILY




Re: Tricky drive level setting for SDR Console to Pluto, QO100

Simon Brown
 

One thing - you can always use the mouse wheel to adjust a slider.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon
Brown
Sent: 13 February 2022 06:48
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Tricky drive level setting for SDR Console to
Pluto, QO100

Hi,

A few screenshots would help.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Wilson
Sent: 12 February 2022 11:51
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Tricky drive level setting for SDR Console to Pluto,
QO100

12 February 2022

I wonder if anyone can kindly help me with a drive issue I am having with my
PlutoSDR and transmitting to the QO100 satellite via the narrow band
transponder using SDR Console please?


Recently I am finding setting the drive level is incredibly tricky. Using
the Tone or Tune functions in SDR Console a tad too much drive level and the
Leila, the satellite's too great a signal level warning is triggered. I
reduce drive until it is no longer triggered and all is OK for some seconds,
then it is triggered again, as if my power is increasing of its own accord.


Once I find an acceptable level by very fine manipulation of the drive
slider but I then find that after a period of reception there is no longer
enough drive to set the Pluto / amp into TX again.


This appears to be a recent problem, as a while ago when I was on the narrow
band transponder with SSB I didn't seem to have so much of an issue.


My set up is Windows 7 64 bit, SDR Console V 3.1, LAN connection to my Pluto
at the base of my 1.8 meter prime focus dish. The Pluto is driving an
Analogue Devices CN0417 pre amp driving an SG labs 20W amp via a 6dB
attenuator, which in turn is triggered by its VOX PTT. The SG Labs amp then
feeds the POTY antenna via a short length of low loss co-ax.


MAYBE the attenuator is between the Pluto and the CN0417, I can't reliably
recall, and I am at work.


My own, novice, thoughts are that to trigger the SG labs amp via VOX is
needing enough drive power to put its output around the trigger point of
Leila. Does that sound feasible? What about the rise in output when TX'ing,
and the fact a signal level adjusted down when operating with Tune or Tone
to stop triggering Leila becomes insufficient to set the ensemble into TX at
the next transmission?


Thanks for any advice. I could JUST get a signal on SSB with only the
CN0417, before I got the SG labs amp. I wanted a good deal more power as I
also run the set up on DATV on the wide band QO100 transponder. Best
regards, Chris, 2E0ILY




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Re: Playback navigator

Simon Brown
 

Yes,

 

They are back, will update V3.1 ‘soon’.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of swedane via groups.io
Sent: 13 February 2022 01:45
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Playback navigator

 

Having switched to version 3.1, I now miss the nifty quick buttons "Back/Forward 10 sec" in the playback navigator.
Any chance of getting those back?
(I know that they are still in the "Rec/Playback" menu, many clicks away if you like to be in "Memories")


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Re: Tricky drive level setting for SDR Console to Pluto, QO100

Simon Brown
 

Hi,

A few screenshots would help.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Wilson
Sent: 12 February 2022 11:51
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Tricky drive level setting for SDR Console to Pluto,
QO100

12 February 2022

I wonder if anyone can kindly help me with a drive issue I am having with my
PlutoSDR and transmitting to the QO100 satellite via the narrow band
transponder using SDR Console please?


Recently I am finding setting the drive level is incredibly tricky. Using
the Tone or Tune functions in SDR Console a tad too much drive level and the
Leila, the satellite's too great a signal level warning is triggered. I
reduce drive until it is no longer triggered and all is OK for some seconds,
then it is triggered again, as if my power is increasing of its own accord.


Once I find an acceptable level by very fine manipulation of the drive
slider but I then find that after a period of reception there is no longer
enough drive to set the Pluto / amp into TX again.


This appears to be a recent problem, as a while ago when I was on the narrow
band transponder with SSB I didn't seem to have so much of an issue.


My set up is Windows 7 64 bit, SDR Console V 3.1, LAN connection to my Pluto
at the base of my 1.8 meter prime focus dish. The Pluto is driving an
Analogue Devices CN0417 pre amp driving an SG labs 20W amp via a 6dB
attenuator, which in turn is triggered by its VOX PTT. The SG Labs amp then
feeds the POTY antenna via a short length of low loss co-ax.


MAYBE the attenuator is between the Pluto and the CN0417, I can't reliably
recall, and I am at work.


My own, novice, thoughts are that to trigger the SG labs amp via VOX is
needing enough drive power to put its output around the trigger point of
Leila. Does that sound feasible? What about the rise in output when TX'ing,
and the fact a signal level adjusted down when operating with Tune or Tone
to stop triggering Leila becomes insufficient to set the ensemble into TX at
the next transmission?


Thanks for any advice. I could JUST get a signal on SSB with only the
CN0417, before I got the SG labs amp. I wanted a good deal more power as I
also run the set up on DATV on the wide band QO100 transponder. Best
regards, Chris, 2E0ILY




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Chris mailto:chris@...










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US bandplan

bwschober@...
 

I have put together a band plan and markers based on FCC frequency allocations and ARRL band plans.  My focus was on the Amateur, Marine, and Aviation bands.

Here are the sources I used:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Regulatory/Band%20Chart/Band%20Chart%20-%2011X17%20Color.pdf
http://www.arrl.org/band-plan
https://www.radioreference.com/
https://www.wikipedia.org/
https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/
https://freedv.org/

I hope you find it useful

Bruce Schober (KO4PRE)


Playback navigator

swedane
 

Having switched to version 3.1, I now miss the nifty quick buttons "Back/Forward 10 sec" in the playback navigator.
Any chance of getting those back?
(I know that they are still in the "Rec/Playback" menu, many clicks away if you like to be in "Memories")


Tricky drive level setting for SDR Console to Pluto, QO100

Chris Wilson
 

12 February 2022

I wonder if anyone can kindly help me with a drive issue I am having with my PlutoSDR and transmitting to the QO100 satellite via the narrow band transponder using SDR Console please?


Recently I am finding setting the drive level is incredibly tricky. Using the Tone or Tune functions in SDR Console a tad too much drive level and the Leila, the satellite's too great a signal level warning is triggered. I reduce drive until it is no longer triggered and all is OK for some seconds, then it is triggered again, as if my power is increasing of its own accord.


Once I find an acceptable level by very fine manipulation of the drive slider but I then find that after a period of reception there is no longer enough drive to set the Pluto / amp into TX again.


This appears to be a recent problem, as a while ago when I was on the narrow band transponder with SSB I didn't seem to have so much of an issue.


My set up is Windows 7 64 bit, SDR Console V 3.1, LAN connection to my Pluto at the base of my 1.8 meter prime focus dish. The Pluto is driving an Analogue Devices CN0417 pre amp driving an SG labs 20W amp via a 6dB attenuator, which in turn is triggered by its VOX PTT. The SG Labs amp then feeds the POTY antenna via a short length of low loss co-ax.


MAYBE the attenuator is between the Pluto and the CN0417, I can't reliably recall, and I am at work.


My own, novice, thoughts are that to trigger the SG labs amp via VOX is needing enough drive power to put its output around the trigger point of Leila. Does that sound feasible? What about the rise in output when TX'ing, and the fact a signal level adjusted down when operating with Tune or Tone to stop triggering Leila becomes insufficient to set the ensemble into TX at the next transmission?


Thanks for any advice. I could JUST get a signal on SSB with only the CN0417, before I got the SG labs amp. I wanted a good deal more power as I also run the set up on DATV on the wide band QO100 transponder. Best regards, Chris, 2E0ILY




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Chris mailto:chris@...


Re: Reinstalling SDR# #sdrsharp

Alan G4ZFQ
 

Have a look at the following folders mainly Local. All data is located there. . Locate sdr sharp and HDSDR , copy the folders and save them
somewhere and then delete them from the %appdata% folder..
Neither of those programs use "Local Data"
SDR# uses configuration files in the working folder. HDSDR uses the registry.

Alan


Re: Reinstalling SDR# #sdrsharp

Michael Boudreaux
 

Hi,
Have a look at the following folders mainly Local. All data is located there. Locate sdr sharp and HDSDR , copy the folders and save them somewhere and then delete them from the %appdata% folder.. You can now do a clean install and your info is saved in your backup if required. 73 Mike VK4SY