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Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

jdow
 

I'd hang it from that nice large beefy USB connector if I were to hang it by one end or the other.

Get yourself an IR thermometer. Aim the "gun" at the RX999 model and measure the temperature. 70C is where I might start getting concerned. And that is a very uncomfortable temperature in your hand after a couple seconds.

{^_^}

On 20220815 11:28:14, N2MS wrote:

Are your SMA connectors facing up or down in the vertical position? I am thinking of placing it SMA connector down and removing the plate on the USB connector side. Mike N2MS
On 08/15/2022 2:28 AM jdow <jdow@...> wrote: A small computer fan cools the MKII admirably. Mounting it with the fins vertical also helps. Alas, that is a little stressful for the SMA connectors. {^_^}


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

jdow
 

It takes remarkably little breeze to create enough to get the initial 5C or cooling. Since the efficacy is related to temperature delta the next 5C is harder, and each one after that is harder yet. When you get down into 10C above ambient getting to 5C above ambient may require some form of refrigeration.

{^_-}

On 20220815 07:40:40, Dirk wrote:

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM, jdow wrote:
You be kidding?  At the moment it is hanging above my desk with the antenna connector adapter chain resting on the top of my blood pressure monitor and the other is laying across my desk upon which the BP monitor stands. I make DAMNED sure I don't push down on it.
Ok, ok! I'll never ask again. ;-)
Now I have a temporary solution with my 130mm fan and I will order this one later:
ELUTENG 2 in 1 5V Lüfter USB Fan 40mm 3 Geschwindigkeiten 5500 rpm Klein Lüfter Starker Wind Ventilator Leise Mini PC Kühlung Lüfter Kompatibel für PS4/Laptop/TV Box/AV Schrank/Router : Amazon.de: Computer & Zubehör
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Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

jdow
 

For personal cooling at the moment I am using a pair of roughly 5" fans aimed at me and running on 5 volts. It's a gentle breeze that helps enough I'm not dying of heat and not getting dry eyes from a stiff fan breeze in my face. I may need to go to 12 volts with the fans in series to raise the voltage to 6v. I experiment a lot.

{^_-}

On 20220815 03:33:13, Simon Brown wrote:

This is what I use:



Both recommended.

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Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3
 

You be kidding?  At the moment it is hanging above my desk with the antenna connector adapter chain resting on the top of my blood pressure monitor and the other is laying across my desk upon which the BP monitor stands. I make DAMNED sure I don't push down on it. It gets warm but not what I'd call fatally warm. Around here our "AudioBox" machines cycle through after (masked) beats them to heck with theme park ride levels of shock and random power cycling. They get hot. A small 3" or 4" fan lying on top of the boxes drops temperatures enough. I figure a 2" fan or two on top of the MKII would do the same if you lose the cooling surface on the bottom that I have because it's floating between connectors.

{^_^}

On 20220815 00:52:22, Dirk wrote:
A small computer fan cools the MKII admirably. Mounting it with the fins vertical also helps. Alas, that is a little stressful for the SMA connectors.
Ok. Do you have photos how you made it?

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Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Ken Sejkora
 

I tend to agree with Joann.  If cooling is an issue, mounting the receiver in a ‘vertical’ orientation with the SMA connectors upward and USB connector downward would help promote natural convective cooling through the heat sink fins on the ‘bottom’ of the receiver.  Thinking inside the box (literally, and laterally), even better might be to borrow the concept from high-power ham radio linear amplifiers and shroud the vertically-oriented receiver in a small enclosure, or “chimney”, and force cooling air from the bottom upward.  Even a very small CPU cooling fan ducted in such a manner would more than suffice in a ducted application.  If the receiver, and cooling fan, are running 24/7, dust buildup on the fan blades, and/or heat sink fins, might arise and merit a periodic ‘cleaning’ regimen to remove any accumulated dust.

 

Another consideration -- A fan using an old-style brush-contact motor could potentially generate spark-type RFI.  Fortunately, brush motors are a thing of the past.  Conversely, newer brushless motors could potentially employ a switching circuit, also conducive to RFI.  Your mileage (or kilomerterage) may vary.

 

Good luck.

 

Ken  -- WBØOCV

 

> On 08/15/2022 2:28 AM jdow <jdow@...> wrote:

>

>

> A small computer fan cools the MKII admirably. Mounting it with the fins vertical also helps. Alas, that is a little stressful for the SMA connectors.

> {^_^}

 


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

N2MS
 

Are your SMA connectors facing up or down in the vertical position?

I am thinking of placing it SMA connector down and removing the plate on the USB connector side.

Mike N2MS

On 08/15/2022 2:28 AM jdow <jdow@...> wrote:


A small computer fan cools the MKII admirably. Mounting it with the fins vertical also helps. Alas, that is a little stressful for the SMA connectors.
{^_^}


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Simon Brown
 

Yes,

Those small fans are good, I use them on my NUC computers and SDRs.


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Sent: 15 August 2022 15:40
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Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3
 
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM, jdow wrote:
You be kidding?  At the moment it is hanging above my desk with the antenna connector adapter chain resting on the top of my blood pressure monitor and the other is laying across my desk upon which the BP monitor stands. I make DAMNED sure I don't push down on it.
Ok, ok! I'll never ask again. ;-)
Now I have a temporary solution with my 130mm fan and I will order this one later:
ELUTENG 2 in 1 5V Lüfter USB Fan 40mm 3 Geschwindigkeiten 5500 rpm Klein Lüfter Starker Wind Ventilator Leise Mini PC Kühlung Lüfter Kompatibel für PS4/Laptop/TV Box/AV Schrank/Router : Amazon.de: Computer & Zubehör

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Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Dirk
 

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM, jdow wrote:
You be kidding?  At the moment it is hanging above my desk with the antenna connector adapter chain resting on the top of my blood pressure monitor and the other is laying across my desk upon which the BP monitor stands. I make DAMNED sure I don't push down on it.
Ok, ok! I'll never ask again. ;-)
Now I have a temporary solution with my 130mm fan and I will order this one later:
ELUTENG 2 in 1 5V Lüfter USB Fan 40mm 3 Geschwindigkeiten 5500 rpm Klein Lüfter Starker Wind Ventilator Leise Mini PC Kühlung Lüfter Kompatibel für PS4/Laptop/TV Box/AV Schrank/Router : Amazon.de: Computer & Zubehör


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Larry Dodd
 

All,
I keep a 12 volt fan on my RX888 MKII’s running 16 MHz BW, 15 to 31 MHz 24/7 monitoring solar flares and Jupiter storms. Run Console3 data stream into an SDRc2RSS interface program to Radio Sky Spectrograph version 2.9.63. Important to have a short high quality USB cable directly into rear USB port on WIN10 computer. Works fine on WIN11 also. All thanks to Simon’s excellent software. 
Thanks. 
Larry K4LED 

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On Aug 15, 2022, at 2:26 AM, jdow <jdow@...> wrote:



People who purchase it the MKII. Spot E-Skip while talking on HF.


{O.O}

On 20220814 08:07:12, Simon Brown wrote:
In SDR Console I run at 32 MHz internally, not 64 MHz.
  • Gets too hot even at 32 MHz
  • Don't really have the enthusiasm to get 64 MHz working - who really needs all that bandwidth?

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Dirk via groups.io <dottensm@...>
Sent: 14 August 2022 16:01
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3
 
Too hot to go out, so had much time to make some drawings this weekend.  :)
As I saw e.g. the "Control Console" window for the RX888 in HDSDR, I had the idea to draw a similar fictitious Control Window for the RX-888 MKII, just to show how I imagine the internal function.
Is this basically true?

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Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Paul
 

I don't know about needing 64MHz bandwidth but mine runs at 35Mhz BW for much of the Sporadic E season and the heat is taken care of with a small PC fan stuck to the heatsink.

Using SDR Sharp I set the extIO to 140MHz sample rate and reduce the bandwidth down from 70MHz to 35MHz so I can monitor all low VHF up to 70.00MHz @ 16bit on the HF port.

Paul


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Simon Brown
 


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Sent: 15 August 2022 09:31
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3
 

You be kidding?  At the moment it is hanging above my desk with the antenna connector adapter chain resting on the top of my blood pressure monitor and the other is laying across my desk upon which the BP monitor stands. I make DAMNED sure I don't push down on it. It gets warm but not what I'd call fatally warm. Around here our "AudioBox" machines cycle through after (masked) beats them to heck with theme park ride levels of shock and random power cycling. They get hot. A small 3" or 4" fan lying on top of the boxes drops temperatures enough. I figure a 2" fan or two on top of the MKII would do the same if you lose the cooling surface on the bottom that I have because it's floating between connectors.

{^_^}

On 20220815 00:52:22, Dirk wrote:
A small computer fan cools the MKII admirably. Mounting it with the fins vertical also helps. Alas, that is a little stressful for the SMA connectors.
Ok. Do you have photos how you made it?

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Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

jdow
 

You be kidding?  At the moment it is hanging above my desk with the antenna connector adapter chain resting on the top of my blood pressure monitor and the other is laying across my desk upon which the BP monitor stands. I make DAMNED sure I don't push down on it. It gets warm but not what I'd call fatally warm. Around here our "AudioBox" machines cycle through after (masked) beats them to heck with theme park ride levels of shock and random power cycling. They get hot. A small 3" or 4" fan lying on top of the boxes drops temperatures enough. I figure a 2" fan or two on top of the MKII would do the same if you lose the cooling surface on the bottom that I have because it's floating between connectors.

{^_^}

On 20220815 00:52:22, Dirk wrote:

A small computer fan cools the MKII admirably. Mounting it with the fins vertical also helps. Alas, that is a little stressful for the SMA connectors.
Ok. Do you have photos how you made it?


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Dirk
 

A small computer fan cools the MKII admirably. Mounting it with the fins vertical also helps. Alas, that is a little stressful for the SMA connectors.
Ok. Do you have photos how you made it?


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

jdow
 

A small computer fan cools the MKII admirably. Mounting it with the fins vertical also helps. Alas, that is a little stressful for the SMA connectors.

{^_^}

On 20220814 08:17:07, Dirk wrote:

Yes, it's hot enough outside. Don't want to kill my SDR ... 😊


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

jdow
 

People who purchase it the MKII. Spot E-Skip while talking on HF.


{O.O}

On 20220814 08:07:12, Simon Brown wrote:

In SDR Console I run at 32 MHz internally, not 64 MHz.
  • Gets too hot even at 32 MHz
  • Don't really have the enthusiasm to get 64 MHz working - who really needs all that bandwidth?

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Dirk via groups.io <dottensm@...>
Sent: 14 August 2022 16:01
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3
 
Too hot to go out, so had much time to make some drawings this weekend.  :)
As I saw e.g. the "Control Console" window for the RX888 in HDSDR, I had the idea to draw a similar fictitious Control Window for the RX-888 MKII, just to show how I imagine the internal function.
Is this basically true?

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Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Siegfried Jackstien
 

too hot at 32 and even hotter at 64?? then add a blower :-)

dg9bfc sigi

Am 14.08.2022 um 17:07 schrieb Simon Brown:

In SDR Console I run at 32 MHz internally, not 64 MHz.
  • Gets too hot even at 32 MHz
  • Don't really have the enthusiasm to get 64 MHz working - who really needs all that bandwidth?

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Dirk via groups.io <dottensm@...>
Sent: 14 August 2022 16:01
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3
 
Too hot to go out, so had much time to make some drawings this weekend.  :)
As I saw e.g. the "Control Console" window for the RX888 in HDSDR, I had the idea to draw a similar fictitious Control Window for the RX-888 MKII, just to show how I imagine the internal function.
Is this basically true?

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Please use https://forum.sdr-radio.com:4499/ when posting questions or problems.


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Dirk
 

Yes, it's hot enough outside. Don't want to kill my SDR ... 😊


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Simon Brown
 

In SDR Console I run at 32 MHz internally, not 64 MHz.
  • Gets too hot even at 32 MHz
  • Don't really have the enthusiasm to get 64 MHz working - who really needs all that bandwidth?


From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Dirk via groups.io <dottensm@...>
Sent: 14 August 2022 16:01
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3
 
Too hot to go out, so had much time to make some drawings this weekend.  :)
As I saw e.g. the "Control Console" window for the RX888 in HDSDR, I had the idea to draw a similar fictitious Control Window for the RX-888 MKII, just to show how I imagine the internal function.
Is this basically true?

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Please use https://forum.sdr-radio.com:4499/ when posting questions or problems.


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Dirk
 

Too hot to go out, so had much time to make some drawings this weekend.  :)
As I saw e.g. the "Control Console" window for the RX888 in HDSDR, I had the idea to draw a similar fictitious Control Window for the RX-888 MKII, just to show how I imagine the internal function.
Is this basically true?


Re: 999 Spain COPE Tecsun AN200 loop Airspy HF+ Discovery

Peter 1956
 

Hello Miguel
I don't know the details of the torroid, it was an old one I had. Translate gives "how many tread flies" for the rest of your message!
Peter


Re: SDR Console and RX-888 MKII #sdr-consolev3

Robert Lorenzini
 

Funny  aside I have a wx server llorenzini.com that recorded the pulse from
the eruption about 2hrs later. I was alerted by the hamsci group and
there it was. That group is an opportunity to make contributions to science
regarding propagation. They are assembling a space weather station for
observers. Pi based and probably about $400. There are eclipses in the next
two years and there is interest in how that affects the layers. GPS based freq.
measurements against a standard.

Sorry for the OT it's happy hour cheers
Bob - wd6dud

On 8/13/2022 5:41 PM, jdow wrote:


On 20220813 09:00:20, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 19:24:37 -0700 "jdow" <jdow@...> wrote:
I wonder if any of this is related to the volcano in Tonga that delivered a mega-payload of water into the upper atmosphere. Normally North and South don't mix much. But this was a huge dose of high greenhouse material in "just the right place."
Volcanoes actually do the exact opposite of that, the dust from the eruption reduces solar illumination and the energy reaching the surface from the sun reduces by about 2.5W/m2. This is the reason for abnormally cool autumn/winter in the southwest Pacific area, Antarctica too. Record low temperatures recorded in the South Pole stations and also in Australia and New Zealand. It also looks like a grand solar minimum could appear in 2030-2040 due to the position of the outer planets. Volcanic activity follows the 22 year Hale cycle where the solar magnetic poles reverse, we should expect an increase in volcanic eruptions when the next inversion occurs https://solargsm.com/ explains this some more. Everything appearing in mainstream media about global 'heating' is reported by people captured by AGW researchers, and when measurements show otherwise then they are censored and cancelled and shouted down.

This discrepancy had scientists a little confused. You have some reading to do. The average volcano is either so far under water all you get are some blorps of gases or they are on land with no water in sight or site. The Tongan volcano happened just slightly underwater and moved a huge volume of water up way higher than is commonly seen. It is up at a level where it is expected to persist for a decade or so and affect weather as a greenhouse gas release.

Ma nature farted in the bathtub very close to the surface of the water. She got messy. We suffer. I would not be surprised to find the GW community is rigidly suppressing this information just as they suppress the news that a mere 1%  or 2% reduction in ALL emissions of CO2 is not likely to make any form of dramatic change. Magic lives in the minds of the pseudo-scientists. But that is independent of the unusual case of the Tongan volcano. It tossed water up where other volcanoes toss debris and even higher. The type of material up there makes a whale of a difference. What I do not know is whether this water up in the sky so high will or won't cross the equator.

{^_^}