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Re: Filter #request

Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
 

ACARS, which CPDLC (VDL-2) uses is AM, not USB. It's the same physical radio we use for voice comms. With the press of a button, I can use Com #3 on voice. Or hit the data button and let the ACARS control the frequency for the current location, and allow ACARS to function.
Here's a screen shot of what Super Station #4's Airspy R2 can hear on 131.550MHz. Surprisingly, the carrier frequencies are all over the place, but generally the transmission is within +/-5 kHz.

73 Kriss KA1GJU


Re: Filter #request

Simon Brown
 

Wide-USB? This goes up to 24kHz.

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of gabriele somma via groups.io <gabrielesomma@...>
Sent: 11 July 2022 10:32
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Filter #request
 
Hi Simon, I am trying to receive VDL 2 - a means of sending information between aircraft and ground stations, such signals need 20/25 khz bandwidth in usb. I have tried to increase the filters but the maximum increase is 4000.You can increase that chance.Thank you.

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Filter #request

gabriele somma
 

Hi Simon, I am trying to receive VDL 2 - a means of sending information between aircraft and ground stations, such signals need 20/25 khz bandwidth in usb. I have tried to increase the filters but the maximum increase is 4000.You can increase that chance.Thank you.


Re: Screen Saver

Simon Brown
 

Ribbon Bar, Tools, General

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of George Stein - NJ3H via groups.io <nj3h@...>
Sent: 11 July 2022 10:23
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Screen Saver
 
I have a screen saver set to just blank the screen on my Windows 10 computer. With Sdr Console running the screen won't blank for me (the screen saver won't engage). 

Is there a setting that will allow this when Console is running? 

Thanks, 
George 

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Re: New Team Member

Mark Cayton
 

Handsome lad, that George!

Mark


Screen Saver

George Stein - NJ3H
 

I have a screen saver set to just blank the screen on my Windows 10 computer. With Sdr Console running the screen won't blank for me (the screen saver won't engage). 

Is there a setting that will allow this when Console is running? 

Thanks, 
George 


Re: New Team Member

Tom Crosbie G6PZZ
 

Sorry to hear the sad news about Millie. That can be difficult for those of us on our own. I’m glad to hear about George though and I’m sure he’ll keep you inspired. I have an on/off relationship with three dogs at the Derbyshire Stroke Centre. Two Pugs and a Cocker, also called George. All Pets as Therapy and it is amazing the different effect they have on my contemporaries. George’s owner is Julie our CEO, now known as George and the Dragon.

All the best Simon

Tom G6PZZ

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 11 July 2022 05:56
To: SDR-Radio <main@sdr-radio.groups.io>
Subject: [SDR-Radio] New Team Member

 

Sadly, Millie the spaniel died of Cancer at the young age of 9. Five weeks later, please put your hands together for the gentle soul who goes by the name of George.

 

He's already become my shadow.

 

 


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Re: New Team Member

Dave & Toni Bell
 

George looks like a good friend, Simon. Sorry to hear about Millie; their time with us is so short! But I’d hate to leave our companions, too.  

Dave 


On Jul 10, 2022, at 10:09 PM, George Stein - NJ3H via groups.io <nj3h@...> wrote:

Here is to George from a George. 

Sorry about Millie. The trouble with death is that it is so damn permanent. 

All the best, 
George, NJ3H 
Redmond, Oregon USA 



On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 9:56 PM, Simon Brown
<simon@...> wrote:
Sadly, Millie the spaniel died of Cancer at the young age of 9. Five weeks later, please put your hands together for the gentle soul who goes by the name of George.

He's already become my shadow.




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Scanner

George Stein - NJ3H
 

I have lost track of this topic. 

Simon, is a scanner for SDRC still in the plans? If so, any guess as to time frame? 

Thanks for everything you have done to help all of us. 

Regards, 
George, NJ3H 
Redmond, Oregon USA 


Re: New Team Member

George Stein - NJ3H
 

Here is to George from a George. 

Sorry about Millie. The trouble with death is that it is so damn permanent. 

All the best, 
George, NJ3H 
Redmond, Oregon USA 



On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 9:56 PM, Simon Brown
<simon@...> wrote:
Sadly, Millie the spaniel died of Cancer at the young age of 9. Five weeks later, please put your hands together for the gentle soul who goes by the name of George.

He's already become my shadow.




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Simon Brown
 

Sadly, Millie the spaniel died of Cancer at the young age of 9. Five weeks later, please put your hands together for the gentle soul who goes by the name of George.

He's already become my shadow.




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Re: Ettus USRP N200 compatibility #sdrconsolev3 #ettus

Simon Brown
 

I need one day for something, then I'll look at this.

We're having a heat wave, I may melt. Not a USA heatwave but far too hot for little old me.

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Larry Dighera via groups.io <LDighera@...>
Sent: 10 July 2022 00:20
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Ettus USRP N200 compatibility #sdrconsolev3 #ettus
 

Oh well ...



On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 18:09:49 +0000, "Simon Brown" <simon@...>
wrote:

>No,
>
>Sorry. Distracted with legal work I'm afraid.
>
>Simon Brown
>https://g4eli.com
>https://sdr-radio.com
>
>________________________________
>From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Larry Dighera via groups.io <LDighera@...>
>Sent: 09 July 2022 17:42
>To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
>Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Ettus USRP N200 compatibility #sdrconsolev3 #ettus
>
>
>Any progress on this?
>
>
>
>On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:27:39 +0000, "Simon Brown" <simon@...>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I've made a mental note to look at this early next week. I have a B200 which should be good enough for testing. I'm sure it'll work...
>>
>>Simon Brown
>>https://g4eli.com
>>https://sdr-radio.com
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Erik M0MWF via groups.io <erik@...>
>>Sent: 29 June 2022 06:08
>>To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
>>Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Ettus USRP N200 compatibility #sdrconsolev3 #ettus
>>
>>Hi Simon,
>>
>>I hope I don't sound like I'm complaining, but have you had any further time to look into USRP Tx capability?
>>
>>Am very excited at the prospect with your otherwise wonderful s/w.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Erik.
>>
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For Sale: FDM-S3-TCXO #fmd-s3

Simon Brown
 

From the EladSDR group,

Toodles,

From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> on behalf of Winston via groups.io <win2wang@...>
Sent: 11 July 2022 03:02
To: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io>
Subject: [EladSDR] For Sale: FDM-S3-TCXO #fmd-s3
 
Hi All, I've got for sale: FDM-S3-TCXO.  It was purchased new from Elad USA and is in like-new condition.  Includes items in the photos: 1. FDM-S3-TCXO 2. GPS antenna 3. USB cable.  4. Original box.  Does not include SMA to BNC adapters, power cable, or USB thumb drive.  $850 USD includes shipping within USA or additional shipping for worldwide.

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Discord FM Chat

Les Rayburn
 

Jim Smith, G0OFE mentioned a “couple of guys in our Discord FM-DX Chat.” Can you tell me how to join that server? I’d love to find some folks who want to discuss FM DXing. 




73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

NRC & IRCA Courtesy Program Committee Chairman
Member WTFDA, MWC

Perseus SDR,  AirSpy + Discovery, SDRPlay RSP Duo, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy Modified], Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 

“Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else’s favorite song…” 


Re: Band II antenna

Conrad, PA5Y
 

Yes indeed. I expect to stop EME activities in 10 years max and I am only 56! It is difficult to keep it all going. I have 3 systems and will add a 4.5m dish soon.

 

Regards


Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 11 July 2022 00:56
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

The side lobes are strong enough the very high power radars on frequency, in frequently fortunately, are an annoyance when they sweep the EME antenna location, I bet. And, yes, this is a restricted area. And hams that run more than 50 W repeaters have had knocks on the door before. The military is stuffier than the FCC in this regard, it seems. I think I'll pass anyway. nearing the end of  your eighth decade leaves one without the physical endurance for such delightful follies.

{^_-}  <- REALLY must exercise more than that idiot does currently.

On 20220710 15:27:12, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

Is it a restricted area? I know that they exist for 432 in the USA. I also know that for EME the authorities do not seem to mind so much, so long as the paperwork is in place. Some permit is required. When such arrays are elevated the sidelobes are low enough to not be a nuisance to primary users.

 

Regards


Conrad

 

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 11 July 2022 00:22
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

I wonder what would happen to me if I put that array and a kW up on 450 MHz from coastal southern California. I what what the key down to arrival time for "Big Brither" would be....

{O.O}

On 20220710 14:29:53, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

It does, he has been using it since 2019 on EME, he has worked 50W to a dipole via the moon. Have a look at this:

http://dl7apv.de/5weme/5weme.htm

 

Regards


Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 23:26
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Wow! What an effort. Berne deserves a lot of credit for building a monster like that. Hope it works as good as he expected. Cheers!

Larry K4LED

 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:01 PM Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:

That statement is unfair. Bernd has put a lot of effort into the project. Take your blinkers off and read the story including the performance data. What he has achieved is remarkable and he helps to promote 432MHz EME. Large EME stations like Bernd’s really increase activity.

 

Lots of homebrew and effort.

 

http://dl7apv.de/Neue%20Antennen/Neue%20Antennen.htm

 

He uses open wire feed which is necessary for such a system. This is not HF!

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 21:13
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

For some people cocaine is the signal that they have too much money. I think this guy has a quite different and far more respectable signal that he has too much money - and time - on his hands. That must have taken awhile to get phased in and fed properly. I wonder if he really gets the 21 dB extra gain that should give him over a single beam. (18 dB would mean he has a lot of patience and very low loss feed lines across the array.)

Has he started the second one so he can use SDR techniques as he rotates them together for another 3 dB of gain.

{O.O}

On 20220710 11:03:03, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

Hello Larry, no the purpose of the structure is the 128 yagis on 432MHz for EME.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 19:57
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

I'm guessing it will be an array of 16 when finished.

Larry K4LED

 

_______________________

On 7/10/2022 17:20:20, Larry Dodd via groups.io <101science@...> wrote:

Yes 10. I missed counting one. Also looks like the whole array rotated both horizontally and azimuth.  

Larry

_______________________





On Jul 10, 2022, at 1:17 PM, Ken Sejkora <kjsejkora@...> wrote:



Interesting image, Larry.  Aren’t there 10 yagis, 8 on top and 2 on the bottom?  And it appears the two on the bottom might be oriented with the elements in the vertical plane, as opposed to horizontal like the top yagis.

 

From: Larry Dodd
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 12:26 PM
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Nine rotatable is better!

 

Larry K4LED 

_______________________

 

On Jul 10, 2022, at 12:21 PM, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:



Hello Jim, yes Rob PE1ITR gave me a link earlier today. You mean this one?

 

https://www.antennenland.net/3H-FM-9M19

 

I just emailed them about shipping to the Netherlands.

 

Regards

 

Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Smith G0OFE via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 17:11
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

You could try the Antennenland Korner 9.2, German company, I don't know if they ship outside Germany these days. I know they won't ship to the UK any longer thanks to Brexshit.

================================
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Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support
Please follow instructions in that link.
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Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers
8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF

On 10/07/2022 07:31, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

OK I will try him again, he passed it on to Wimo who failed miserably.

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 09:30
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Hi,

 

The 8 element innov is very good, it's worth waiting for. Send Justin a direct mail if you have problems.

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Conrad, PA5Y via groups.io <g0ruz@...>
Sent: 10 July 2022 08:26
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Cc: Rob Hardenberg <rob@...>
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

As there are more experienced Band II DXers lurking can you recommend a Band II antenna? Max boom-length 5m and in stock somewhere in Europe. I ordered an Innovantennas OPT-DES which has not showed up 16 weeks later, so I cancelled the order. I have a crappy 3 ele up now. It was good enough for MUF tracking but would like something better for tropo.

 

Any recommendations?

 

Regards

 

Conrad PA5Y


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Re: Band II antenna

jdow
 

The side lobes are strong enough the very high power radars on frequency, in frequently fortunately, are an annoyance when they sweep the EME antenna location, I bet. And, yes, this is a restricted area. And hams that run more than 50 W repeaters have had knocks on the door before. The military is stuffier than the FCC in this regard, it seems. I think I'll pass anyway. nearing the end of  your eighth decade leaves one without the physical endurance for such delightful follies.

{^_-}  <- REALLY must exercise more than that idiot does currently.

On 20220710 15:27:12, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

Is it a restricted area? I know that they exist for 432 in the USA. I also know that for EME the authorities do not seem to mind so much, so long as the paperwork is in place. Some permit is required. When such arrays are elevated the sidelobes are low enough to not be a nuisance to primary users.

 

Regards


Conrad

 

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 11 July 2022 00:22
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

I wonder what would happen to me if I put that array and a kW up on 450 MHz from coastal southern California. I what what the key down to arrival time for "Big Brither" would be....

{O.O}

On 20220710 14:29:53, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

It does, he has been using it since 2019 on EME, he has worked 50W to a dipole via the moon. Have a look at this:

http://dl7apv.de/5weme/5weme.htm

 

Regards


Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 23:26
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Wow! What an effort. Berne deserves a lot of credit for building a monster like that. Hope it works as good as he expected. Cheers!

Larry K4LED

 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:01 PM Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:

That statement is unfair. Bernd has put a lot of effort into the project. Take your blinkers off and read the story including the performance data. What he has achieved is remarkable and he helps to promote 432MHz EME. Large EME stations like Bernd’s really increase activity.

 

Lots of homebrew and effort.

 

http://dl7apv.de/Neue%20Antennen/Neue%20Antennen.htm

 

He uses open wire feed which is necessary for such a system. This is not HF!

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 21:13
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

For some people cocaine is the signal that they have too much money. I think this guy has a quite different and far more respectable signal that he has too much money - and time - on his hands. That must have taken awhile to get phased in and fed properly. I wonder if he really gets the 21 dB extra gain that should give him over a single beam. (18 dB would mean he has a lot of patience and very low loss feed lines across the array.)

Has he started the second one so he can use SDR techniques as he rotates them together for another 3 dB of gain.

{O.O}

On 20220710 11:03:03, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

Hello Larry, no the purpose of the structure is the 128 yagis on 432MHz for EME.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 19:57
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

I'm guessing it will be an array of 16 when finished.

Larry K4LED

 

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On 7/10/2022 17:20:20, Larry Dodd via groups.io <101science@...> wrote:

Yes 10. I missed counting one. Also looks like the whole array rotated both horizontally and azimuth.  

Larry

_______________________




On Jul 10, 2022, at 1:17 PM, Ken Sejkora <kjsejkora@...> wrote:



Interesting image, Larry.  Aren’t there 10 yagis, 8 on top and 2 on the bottom?  And it appears the two on the bottom might be oriented with the elements in the vertical plane, as opposed to horizontal like the top yagis.

 

From: Larry Dodd
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 12:26 PM
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Nine rotatable is better!

 

Larry K4LED 

_______________________

 

On Jul 10, 2022, at 12:21 PM, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:



Hello Jim, yes Rob PE1ITR gave me a link earlier today. You mean this one?

 

https://www.antennenland.net/3H-FM-9M19

 

I just emailed them about shipping to the Netherlands.

 

Regards

 

Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Smith G0OFE via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 17:11
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

You could try the Antennenland Korner 9.2, German company, I don't know if they ship outside Germany these days. I know they won't ship to the UK any longer thanks to Brexshit.

================================
Need help with SDR Console? If you have a problem:
Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support
Please follow instructions in that link.
===================================
Jim, Bournemouth, Dorset. IO90BR.
Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers
8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF

On 10/07/2022 07:31, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

OK I will try him again, he passed it on to Wimo who failed miserably.

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 09:30
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Hi,

 

The 8 element innov is very good, it's worth waiting for. Send Justin a direct mail if you have problems.

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Conrad, PA5Y via groups.io <g0ruz@...>
Sent: 10 July 2022 08:26
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Cc: Rob Hardenberg <rob@...>
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

As there are more experienced Band II DXers lurking can you recommend a Band II antenna? Max boom-length 5m and in stock somewhere in Europe. I ordered an Innovantennas OPT-DES which has not showed up 16 weeks later, so I cancelled the order. I have a crappy 3 ele up now. It was good enough for MUF tracking but would like something better for tropo.

 

Any recommendations?

 

Regards

 

Conrad PA5Y


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Re: Band II antenna

Conrad, PA5Y
 

Is it a restricted area? I know that they exist for 432 in the USA. I also know that for EME the authorities do not seem to mind so much, so long as the paperwork is in place. Some permit is required. When such arrays are elevated the sidelobes are low enough to not be a nuisance to primary users.

 

Regards


Conrad

 

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 11 July 2022 00:22
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

I wonder what would happen to me if I put that array and a kW up on 450 MHz from coastal southern California. I what what the key down to arrival time for "Big Brither" would be....

{O.O}

On 20220710 14:29:53, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

It does, he has been using it since 2019 on EME, he has worked 50W to a dipole via the moon. Have a look at this:

http://dl7apv.de/5weme/5weme.htm

 

Regards


Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 23:26
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Wow! What an effort. Berne deserves a lot of credit for building a monster like that. Hope it works as good as he expected. Cheers!

Larry K4LED

 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:01 PM Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:

That statement is unfair. Bernd has put a lot of effort into the project. Take your blinkers off and read the story including the performance data. What he has achieved is remarkable and he helps to promote 432MHz EME. Large EME stations like Bernd’s really increase activity.

 

Lots of homebrew and effort.

 

http://dl7apv.de/Neue%20Antennen/Neue%20Antennen.htm

 

He uses open wire feed which is necessary for such a system. This is not HF!

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 21:13
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

For some people cocaine is the signal that they have too much money. I think this guy has a quite different and far more respectable signal that he has too much money - and time - on his hands. That must have taken awhile to get phased in and fed properly. I wonder if he really gets the 21 dB extra gain that should give him over a single beam. (18 dB would mean he has a lot of patience and very low loss feed lines across the array.)

Has he started the second one so he can use SDR techniques as he rotates them together for another 3 dB of gain.

{O.O}

On 20220710 11:03:03, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

Hello Larry, no the purpose of the structure is the 128 yagis on 432MHz for EME.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 19:57
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

I'm guessing it will be an array of 16 when finished.

Larry K4LED

 

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On 7/10/2022 17:20:20, Larry Dodd via groups.io <101science@...> wrote:

Yes 10. I missed counting one. Also looks like the whole array rotated both horizontally and azimuth.  

Larry

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On Jul 10, 2022, at 1:17 PM, Ken Sejkora <kjsejkora@...> wrote:



Interesting image, Larry.  Aren’t there 10 yagis, 8 on top and 2 on the bottom?  And it appears the two on the bottom might be oriented with the elements in the vertical plane, as opposed to horizontal like the top yagis.

 

From: Larry Dodd
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 12:26 PM
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Nine rotatable is better!

 

Larry K4LED 

_______________________

 

On Jul 10, 2022, at 12:21 PM, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:



Hello Jim, yes Rob PE1ITR gave me a link earlier today. You mean this one?

 

https://www.antennenland.net/3H-FM-9M19

 

I just emailed them about shipping to the Netherlands.

 

Regards

 

Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Smith G0OFE via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 17:11
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

You could try the Antennenland Korner 9.2, German company, I don't know if they ship outside Germany these days. I know they won't ship to the UK any longer thanks to Brexshit.

================================
Need help with SDR Console? If you have a problem:
Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support
Please follow instructions in that link.
===================================
Jim, Bournemouth, Dorset. IO90BR.
Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers
8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF

On 10/07/2022 07:31, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

OK I will try him again, he passed it on to Wimo who failed miserably.

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 09:30
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Hi,

 

The 8 element innov is very good, it's worth waiting for. Send Justin a direct mail if you have problems.

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Conrad, PA5Y via groups.io <g0ruz@...>
Sent: 10 July 2022 08:26
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Cc: Rob Hardenberg <rob@...>
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

As there are more experienced Band II DXers lurking can you recommend a Band II antenna? Max boom-length 5m and in stock somewhere in Europe. I ordered an Innovantennas OPT-DES which has not showed up 16 weeks later, so I cancelled the order. I have a crappy 3 ele up now. It was good enough for MUF tracking but would like something better for tropo.

 

Any recommendations?

 

Regards

 

Conrad PA5Y


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Re: Band II antenna

Conrad, PA5Y
 

No, the array is still in regular use on 432MHz EME. I am not sure about the Band II antennas. He has also recently built a 16 x 6 ele XPOL for 144MHz.

 

More on the Puslars:

 

http://i0naa.altervista.org/images/Pdf/Hunting-for-Pulsars--with-I1NDP-Nando-and-OE5JFL-Hannes-.pdf

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 11 July 2022 00:17
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Reading the page suggests it is disassembled now, which is a pity. But, at 10 years old it probably needed some sincere maintenance.

{o.o}

On 20220710 14:29:53, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

It does, he has been using it since 2019 on EME, he has worked 50W to a dipole via the moon. Have a look at this:

http://dl7apv.de/5weme/5weme.htm

 

Regards


Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 23:26
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Wow! What an effort. Berne deserves a lot of credit for building a monster like that. Hope it works as good as he expected. Cheers!

Larry K4LED

 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:01 PM Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:

That statement is unfair. Bernd has put a lot of effort into the project. Take your blinkers off and read the story including the performance data. What he has achieved is remarkable and he helps to promote 432MHz EME. Large EME stations like Bernd’s really increase activity.

 

Lots of homebrew and effort.

 

http://dl7apv.de/Neue%20Antennen/Neue%20Antennen.htm

 

He uses open wire feed which is necessary for such a system. This is not HF!

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 21:13
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

For some people cocaine is the signal that they have too much money. I think this guy has a quite different and far more respectable signal that he has too much money - and time - on his hands. That must have taken awhile to get phased in and fed properly. I wonder if he really gets the 21 dB extra gain that should give him over a single beam. (18 dB would mean he has a lot of patience and very low loss feed lines across the array.)

Has he started the second one so he can use SDR techniques as he rotates them together for another 3 dB of gain.

{O.O}

On 20220710 11:03:03, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

Hello Larry, no the purpose of the structure is the 128 yagis on 432MHz for EME.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 19:57
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

I'm guessing it will be an array of 16 when finished.

Larry K4LED

 

_______________________

On 7/10/2022 17:20:20, Larry Dodd via groups.io <101science@...> wrote:

Yes 10. I missed counting one. Also looks like the whole array rotated both horizontally and azimuth.  

Larry

_______________________




On Jul 10, 2022, at 1:17 PM, Ken Sejkora <kjsejkora@...> wrote:



Interesting image, Larry.  Aren’t there 10 yagis, 8 on top and 2 on the bottom?  And it appears the two on the bottom might be oriented with the elements in the vertical plane, as opposed to horizontal like the top yagis.

 

From: Larry Dodd
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 12:26 PM
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Nine rotatable is better!

 

Larry K4LED 

_______________________

 

On Jul 10, 2022, at 12:21 PM, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:



Hello Jim, yes Rob PE1ITR gave me a link earlier today. You mean this one?

 

https://www.antennenland.net/3H-FM-9M19

 

I just emailed them about shipping to the Netherlands.

 

Regards

 

Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Smith G0OFE via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 17:11
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

You could try the Antennenland Korner 9.2, German company, I don't know if they ship outside Germany these days. I know they won't ship to the UK any longer thanks to Brexshit.

================================
Need help with SDR Console? If you have a problem:
Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support
Please follow instructions in that link.
===================================
Jim, Bournemouth, Dorset. IO90BR.
Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers
8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF

On 10/07/2022 07:31, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

OK I will try him again, he passed it on to Wimo who failed miserably.

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 09:30
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Hi,

 

The 8 element innov is very good, it's worth waiting for. Send Justin a direct mail if you have problems.

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Conrad, PA5Y via groups.io <g0ruz@...>
Sent: 10 July 2022 08:26
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Cc: Rob Hardenberg <rob@...>
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

As there are more experienced Band II DXers lurking can you recommend a Band II antenna? Max boom-length 5m and in stock somewhere in Europe. I ordered an Innovantennas OPT-DES which has not showed up 16 weeks later, so I cancelled the order. I have a crappy 3 ele up now. It was good enough for MUF tracking but would like something better for tropo.

 

Any recommendations?

 

Regards

 

Conrad PA5Y


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Re: Band II antenna

jdow
 

I wonder what would happen to me if I put that array and a kW up on 450 MHz from coastal southern California. I what what the key down to arrival time for "Big Brither" would be....

{O.O}

On 20220710 14:29:53, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

It does, he has been using it since 2019 on EME, he has worked 50W to a dipole via the moon. Have a look at this:

http://dl7apv.de/5weme/5weme.htm

 

Regards


Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 23:26
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Wow! What an effort. Berne deserves a lot of credit for building a monster like that. Hope it works as good as he expected. Cheers!

Larry K4LED

 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:01 PM Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:

That statement is unfair. Bernd has put a lot of effort into the project. Take your blinkers off and read the story including the performance data. What he has achieved is remarkable and he helps to promote 432MHz EME. Large EME stations like Bernd’s really increase activity.

 

Lots of homebrew and effort.

 

http://dl7apv.de/Neue%20Antennen/Neue%20Antennen.htm

 

He uses open wire feed which is necessary for such a system. This is not HF!

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 21:13
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

For some people cocaine is the signal that they have too much money. I think this guy has a quite different and far more respectable signal that he has too much money - and time - on his hands. That must have taken awhile to get phased in and fed properly. I wonder if he really gets the 21 dB extra gain that should give him over a single beam. (18 dB would mean he has a lot of patience and very low loss feed lines across the array.)

Has he started the second one so he can use SDR techniques as he rotates them together for another 3 dB of gain.

{O.O}

On 20220710 11:03:03, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

Hello Larry, no the purpose of the structure is the 128 yagis on 432MHz for EME.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 19:57
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

I'm guessing it will be an array of 16 when finished.

Larry K4LED

 

_______________________

On 7/10/2022 17:20:20, Larry Dodd via groups.io <101science@...> wrote:

Yes 10. I missed counting one. Also looks like the whole array rotated both horizontally and azimuth.  

Larry

_______________________



On Jul 10, 2022, at 1:17 PM, Ken Sejkora <kjsejkora@...> wrote:



Interesting image, Larry.  Aren’t there 10 yagis, 8 on top and 2 on the bottom?  And it appears the two on the bottom might be oriented with the elements in the vertical plane, as opposed to horizontal like the top yagis.

 

From: Larry Dodd
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 12:26 PM
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Nine rotatable is better!

 

Larry K4LED 

_______________________

 

On Jul 10, 2022, at 12:21 PM, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:



Hello Jim, yes Rob PE1ITR gave me a link earlier today. You mean this one?

 

https://www.antennenland.net/3H-FM-9M19

 

I just emailed them about shipping to the Netherlands.

 

Regards

 

Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Smith G0OFE via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 17:11
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

You could try the Antennenland Korner 9.2, German company, I don't know if they ship outside Germany these days. I know they won't ship to the UK any longer thanks to Brexshit.

================================
Need help with SDR Console? If you have a problem:
Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support
Please follow instructions in that link.
===================================
Jim, Bournemouth, Dorset. IO90BR.
Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers
8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF

On 10/07/2022 07:31, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

OK I will try him again, he passed it on to Wimo who failed miserably.

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 09:30
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Hi,

 

The 8 element innov is very good, it's worth waiting for. Send Justin a direct mail if you have problems.

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Conrad, PA5Y via groups.io <g0ruz@...>
Sent: 10 July 2022 08:26
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Cc: Rob Hardenberg <rob@...>
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

As there are more experienced Band II DXers lurking can you recommend a Band II antenna? Max boom-length 5m and in stock somewhere in Europe. I ordered an Innovantennas OPT-DES which has not showed up 16 weeks later, so I cancelled the order. I have a crappy 3 ele up now. It was good enough for MUF tracking but would like something better for tropo.

 

Any recommendations?

 

Regards

 

Conrad PA5Y


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Re: Band II antenna

jdow
 

Reading the page suggests it is disassembled now, which is a pity. But, at 10 years old it probably needed some sincere maintenance.

{o.o}

On 20220710 14:29:53, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

It does, he has been using it since 2019 on EME, he has worked 50W to a dipole via the moon. Have a look at this:

http://dl7apv.de/5weme/5weme.htm

 

Regards


Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 23:26
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Wow! What an effort. Berne deserves a lot of credit for building a monster like that. Hope it works as good as he expected. Cheers!

Larry K4LED

 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:01 PM Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:

That statement is unfair. Bernd has put a lot of effort into the project. Take your blinkers off and read the story including the performance data. What he has achieved is remarkable and he helps to promote 432MHz EME. Large EME stations like Bernd’s really increase activity.

 

Lots of homebrew and effort.

 

http://dl7apv.de/Neue%20Antennen/Neue%20Antennen.htm

 

He uses open wire feed which is necessary for such a system. This is not HF!

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 21:13
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

For some people cocaine is the signal that they have too much money. I think this guy has a quite different and far more respectable signal that he has too much money - and time - on his hands. That must have taken awhile to get phased in and fed properly. I wonder if he really gets the 21 dB extra gain that should give him over a single beam. (18 dB would mean he has a lot of patience and very low loss feed lines across the array.)

Has he started the second one so he can use SDR techniques as he rotates them together for another 3 dB of gain.

{O.O}

On 20220710 11:03:03, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

Hello Larry, no the purpose of the structure is the 128 yagis on 432MHz for EME.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Dodd via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 19:57
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

I'm guessing it will be an array of 16 when finished.

Larry K4LED

 

_______________________

On 7/10/2022 17:20:20, Larry Dodd via groups.io <101science@...> wrote:

Yes 10. I missed counting one. Also looks like the whole array rotated both horizontally and azimuth.  

Larry

_______________________



On Jul 10, 2022, at 1:17 PM, Ken Sejkora <kjsejkora@...> wrote:



Interesting image, Larry.  Aren’t there 10 yagis, 8 on top and 2 on the bottom?  And it appears the two on the bottom might be oriented with the elements in the vertical plane, as opposed to horizontal like the top yagis.

 

From: Larry Dodd
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 12:26 PM
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Nine rotatable is better!

 

Larry K4LED 

_______________________

 

On Jul 10, 2022, at 12:21 PM, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:



Hello Jim, yes Rob PE1ITR gave me a link earlier today. You mean this one?

 

https://www.antennenland.net/3H-FM-9M19

 

I just emailed them about shipping to the Netherlands.

 

Regards

 

Conrad

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Smith G0OFE via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 17:11
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

You could try the Antennenland Korner 9.2, German company, I don't know if they ship outside Germany these days. I know they won't ship to the UK any longer thanks to Brexshit.

================================
Need help with SDR Console? If you have a problem:
Go to https://www.sdr-radio.com/support
Please follow instructions in that link.
===================================
Jim, Bournemouth, Dorset. IO90BR.
Elad FDM-S2, Airspy HF+, SDRPlay and Funcube Dongle SDR Recievers
8-element OP-DES for Band 2, 8-element LFA for 2m, 3-element LFA for 6m, 20m Windom for HF,. Wellbrook 1530 Loop for LF

On 10/07/2022 07:31, Conrad, PA5Y wrote:

OK I will try him again, he passed it on to Wimo who failed miserably.

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2022 09:30
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

Hi,

 

The 8 element innov is very good, it's worth waiting for. Send Justin a direct mail if you have problems.

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> on behalf of Conrad, PA5Y via groups.io <g0ruz@...>
Sent: 10 July 2022 08:26
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io>
Cc: Rob Hardenberg <rob@...>
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Band II antenna

 

As there are more experienced Band II DXers lurking can you recommend a Band II antenna? Max boom-length 5m and in stock somewhere in Europe. I ordered an Innovantennas OPT-DES which has not showed up 16 weeks later, so I cancelled the order. I have a crappy 3 ele up now. It was good enough for MUF tracking but would like something better for tropo.

 

Any recommendations?

 

Regards

 

Conrad PA5Y


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