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Re: Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

Dirk
 

jdow,
does the GPS receiver from Amazon really have a PPS output, that I could use without destroying the receiver?


Re: Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

jdow
 

And how much time does that read operation take? And is the time mark at the start of the first byte or at the end of the last byte. And when does the program performing the read get around to performing the read. And we go down the rabbit hole of precise time on PCs running Windows. (Linux is a little better in this regard. "Real Time" Linux is even better.

{^_-}

On 20220511 02:43:41, Simon Brown wrote:

With these NMEA devices the resolution comes from the chipset. As below, the time is 09h37m52s, the milliseconds value is always returned as zero. Not all NMEA sentences are returned by every device, mine doesn’t return the timestamps.

 

They are easy to read – just open the COM port and read the text.

 

$GPGLL,5006.3037,N,00507.6798,W,093752.000,A,A*47

$GPGLL,5006.3035,N,00507.6796,W,093753.000,A,A*4A

$GPGLL,5006.3032,N,00507.6792,W,093754.000,A,A*4E

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow
Sent: 11 May 2022 09:37
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

time_t timeGetTime(); That has millisecond resolution - if running with mm timer set to 1 ms. Then there is the precision (100ns) timer with motherboard dependent actual resolution. I use timeGetTime() most of the time. One must handle it's roll over, of course. With time64_to work with on 64 bit builds that's not much of a problem. It is always a relative time to when the computer boots. But that offset can be backed out if critical.

{^_^}

On 20220511 00:10:26, Simon Brown wrote:

And,

 

Testing my device it shows a time resolution of just one second.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 10 May 2022 21:36
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

Yes,

 

Could do that, I have such a device.

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of EA7HGL
Sent: 10 May 2022 18:25
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Simon. I have seen in the forecast of version 1.2.7 of the "World Map", an NTP client, would it be possible to implement the reading of the clock of a GPS (installed in a serial port)? It would be appreciated in areas or circumstances without internet connection . Thanks for your time. Antonio D. (EA7HGL)


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Re: Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

jdow
 


On 20220511 02:29:40, David J Taylor via groups.io wrote:
On 11/05/2022 09:37, jdow wrote:
time_t timeGetTime(); That has millisecond resolution - if running with mm
timer set to 1 ms. Then there is the precision (100ns) timer with motherboard
dependent actual resolution. I use timeGetTime() most of the time. One must
handle it's roll over, of course. With time64_to work with on 64 bit builds
that's not much of a problem. It is always a relative time to when the computer
boots. But that offset can be backed out if critical.

{^_^}


For getting the UTC I use the precise function where it is available, which
should be Windows-8 ans later.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

function NowUTCprecise: TDateTime;

  function FTtoDateTime (const ft: TFileTime): TDateTime;
  type
    TFT = record case integer of
            0: (ft: TFileTime);
            1: (i64: int64);
          end;
  var
    ft64: TFT;
    dt: TDateTime;
    offset: TDateTime;
  begin
    ft64.ft := ft;
    dt := ft64.i64;
    dt := dt / (1E7 * 86400);
    offset := EncodeDate (1601, 1, 1);
    Result := dt + offset;
  end;

var
  ft: TFileTime;
begin
  FPreciseFT (ft);
  Result := FTtoDateTime (ft);
end;

In the initialisation use the best available:

  FKernel32 := LoadLibrary ('kernel32.dll');
  if FKernel32 <> 0 then
    begin
    FPreciseFT := GetProcAddress (FKernel32, 'GetSystemTimePreciseAsFileTime');
    if @FPreciseFT = nil then
      FPreciseFT := GetProcAddress (FKernel32, 'GetSystemTimeAsFileTime');
    end;
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Using NTP with a PPS source gives much better than 1 millisecond keeping:

  https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/harstad_ntp_2.html
  https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/stamsund_ntp_2.html

A Raspberry Pi with a GPS/PPS hat can make an ideal local NTP server, for example:


https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=64&product_id=81

(hit by the chip shortage).

73,
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The performance counter has been available for a very long time. GetSystemTimePreciseAsFileTime() is an added function that means you do not have to invent your own. Remember that this only reads the time when you call the function. This may be several ms from when the data came in on an io port buffer. There are no free lunches, unfortunately.

{^_^}


Re: World Map - Rotator COM Ports

Siegfried Jackstien
 

Not only in YOUR garden
Here it also would fit well.. Grin
Dg9bfc sigi 

Am 11.05.2022 11:57 schrieb Simon Brown <simon@...>:

I like your dish btw – would fit in my garden 😊 .

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of sm6fhz
Sent: 11 May 2022 10:50
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map - Rotator COM Ports

 

OK Simon.
No problems. Thanks for the info.
I was just curious about if it would work with World Map.
I have other means to rotate remotely, so I am just fine.
73 / Ingolf


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Re: World Map - Rotator COM Ports

Simon Brown
 

I like your dish btw – would fit in my garden 😊 .

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

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From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of sm6fhz
Sent: 11 May 2022 10:50
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map - Rotator COM Ports

 

OK Simon.
No problems. Thanks for the info.
I was just curious about if it would work with World Map.
I have other means to rotate remotely, so I am just fine.
73 / Ingolf


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Re: World Map - Rotator COM Ports

sm6fhz
 

OK Simon.
No problems. Thanks for the info.
I was just curious about if it would work with World Map.
I have other means to rotate remotely, so I am just fine.
73 / Ingolf


Re: Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

Simon Brown
 

With these NMEA devices the resolution comes from the chipset. As below, the time is 09h37m52s, the milliseconds value is always returned as zero. Not all NMEA sentences are returned by every device, mine doesn’t return the timestamps.

 

They are easy to read – just open the COM port and read the text.

 

$GPGLL,5006.3037,N,00507.6798,W,093752.000,A,A*47

$GPGLL,5006.3035,N,00507.6796,W,093753.000,A,A*4A

$GPGLL,5006.3032,N,00507.6792,W,093754.000,A,A*4E

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow
Sent: 11 May 2022 09:37
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

time_t timeGetTime(); That has millisecond resolution - if running with mm timer set to 1 ms. Then there is the precision (100ns) timer with motherboard dependent actual resolution. I use timeGetTime() most of the time. One must handle it's roll over, of course. With time64_to work with on 64 bit builds that's not much of a problem. It is always a relative time to when the computer boots. But that offset can be backed out if critical.

{^_^}

On 20220511 00:10:26, Simon Brown wrote:

And,

 

Testing my device it shows a time resolution of just one second.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 10 May 2022 21:36
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

Yes,

 

Could do that, I have such a device.

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of EA7HGL
Sent: 10 May 2022 18:25
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Simon. I have seen in the forecast of version 1.2.7 of the "World Map", an NTP client, would it be possible to implement the reading of the clock of a GPS (installed in a serial port)? It would be appreciated in areas or circumstances without internet connection . Thanks for your time. Antonio D. (EA7HGL)


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Re: Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

David J Taylor
 

On 11/05/2022 09:37, jdow wrote:
time_t timeGetTime(); That has millisecond resolution - if running with mm
timer set to 1 ms. Then there is the precision (100ns) timer with motherboard
dependent actual resolution. I use timeGetTime() most of the time. One must
handle it's roll over, of course. With time64_to work with on 64 bit builds
that's not much of a problem. It is always a relative time to when the computer
boots. But that offset can be backed out if critical.

{^_^}

For getting the UTC I use the precise function where it is available, which
should be Windows-8 ans later.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

function NowUTCprecise: TDateTime;

function FTtoDateTime (const ft: TFileTime): TDateTime;
type
TFT = record case integer of
0: (ft: TFileTime);
1: (i64: int64);
end;
var
ft64: TFT;
dt: TDateTime;
offset: TDateTime;
begin
ft64.ft := ft;
dt := ft64.i64;
dt := dt / (1E7 * 86400);
offset := EncodeDate (1601, 1, 1);
Result := dt + offset;
end;

var
ft: TFileTime;
begin
FPreciseFT (ft);
Result := FTtoDateTime (ft);
end;

In the initialisation use the best available:

FKernel32 := LoadLibrary ('kernel32.dll');
if FKernel32 <> 0 then
begin
FPreciseFT := GetProcAddress (FKernel32, 'GetSystemTimePreciseAsFileTime');
if @FPreciseFT = nil then
FPreciseFT := GetProcAddress (FKernel32, 'GetSystemTimeAsFileTime');
end;
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Using NTP with a PPS source gives much better than 1 millisecond keeping:

https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/harstad_ntp_2.html
https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/stamsund_ntp_2.html

A Raspberry Pi with a GPS/PPS hat can make an ideal local NTP server, for example:


https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=64&product_id=81

(hit by the chip shortage).

73,
David GM8ARV
--
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Web: https://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

jdow
 

time_t timeGetTime(); That has millisecond resolution - if running with mm timer set to 1 ms. Then there is the precision (100ns) timer with motherboard dependent actual resolution. I use timeGetTime() most of the time. One must handle it's roll over, of course. With time64_to work with on 64 bit builds that's not much of a problem. It is always a relative time to when the computer boots. But that offset can be backed out if critical.

{^_^}

On 20220511 00:10:26, Simon Brown wrote:

And,

 

Testing my device it shows a time resolution of just one second.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 10 May 2022 21:36
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

Yes,

 

Could do that, I have such a device.

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of EA7HGL
Sent: 10 May 2022 18:25
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Simon. I have seen in the forecast of version 1.2.7 of the "World Map", an NTP client, would it be possible to implement the reading of the clock of a GPS (installed in a serial port)? It would be appreciated in areas or circumstances without internet connection . Thanks for your time. Antonio D. (EA7HGL)


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Re: World Map 1.2.5

jdow
 

Then there is the brute force attempt to open each com port from 0 to 100.

It's fugly. And it's historically not consistent from motherboard to motherboard and program to program. As I remember it there are at least two different device type GUIDs you must enumerate over to get everything. At least MIDI is a little less out there in the ozone.

Then you can open com ports two different ways. One with the full \\ based URIs. I forget the details of the other way. I found the URIs were a little more reliable. By the time I was finding everything, for a customer, I felt like Wiley Coyote after a day chasing the roadrunner.

{^_^}

On 20220510 22:29:28, Simon Brown wrote:

Hi,

 

The correct way is to use SetupDiEnumDeviceInfo see https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/setupapi/ .

 

Older software doesn’t use this API when installing the drivers, so I also use https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winbase/nf-winbase-getdefaultcommconfigw which really just digs around in the registry.

 

Com0com and Eltira behave nicely. My recommendation is com0com.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow
Sent: 11 May 2022 05:05
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Remember there are at least three or four totally unrelated different means of enumerating COM ports. That makes "correctly installed" a bit if a tough call.

{o.o}

On 20220510 11:53:25, Simon Brown wrote:

Mike,

 

Correct – in the World Map I only list correctly installed COM ports, in Console I fall back to running through the registry. Anyway, in 1.2.7 I’ll add support for the incorrect installations.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Bott
Sent: 10 May 2022 18:21
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Simon,

The issue might be trying to understand the inconsistency between Console and World Map.

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On 5/10/22 11:27, Simon Brown wrote:

Then the VSPE installation software is not correct. I use the correct Windows setup API to list all available COM ports.

 

Try com0com, that installs correctly.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Max Mucci, N5NHJ via groups.io
Sent: 10 May 2022 16:03
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Hi Simon,

VSPE ports do not show up in the drop down list, there was someone else who pointed this out before.

Thanks

On 2022-05-10 07:16, Simon Brown wrote:

Max,

 

What are virtual ports? I need more information. If you mean a virtual serial cable then all correctly installed software is listed.

Moon etc. is not difficult – I have all the code in the satellite tracking part of SDR Console, have thought about showing a satellite, moon or a fleet of satellites (eg GPS).

 

When I get bored…

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Max Mucci, N5NHJ via groups.io
Sent: 09 May 2022 19:36
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Just a remainder about extra features, fixes to an already great software:

- Virtual ports recognized in the rotator setup;

- Moon rise,set at any given location when hovering the mouse (same think we already have for the sun)

- SUPER EXTRA: moon footprint.

73, Max

 

On 2022-05-07 15:01, Simon Brown wrote:

Yes,

 

Click the Home button in the Ribbon Bar, takes you to https://www.g4eli.com/world-map - let me know what more you need.

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of hamrad45
Sent: 07 May 2022 11:45
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

This is an awesome update.  Have not used the program in a while.  Is there some documentation or a tutorial somewhere?

 

Thanks,

 

Tom

 

On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 6:10 AM Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Grab 1.2.6 from Introduction — G4ELI

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Graham (ZL1CE)
Sent: 07 May 2022 09:52
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

When I try to run  this I get the following error



The clock is still operational at the bottom of the screen but nothing else responds and the only way I have found to get past this it to terminate the program in Task Manager (after Ctrl, Alt, Del)

73 Graham
ZL1CE
QTH: RF73jc


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Re: Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

jdow
 

I presume you mean +/- 1 ms. Your phrasing was a touch ambiguous. And that is only with the multimedia tick size setting to 1ms. (By now setting to 0.1 ms should be allowed but I suppose ms does not figure that's productive.

{^_-}

On 20220510 22:21:51, Simon Brown wrote:

Hi,

 

I can tell you that with Windows & NTP setting the time results in either 0 or 1 ms offset, it’s good. An advanced NTP client talks with several NTP servers, determines round trip latency, performs long term analysis and generally results in a 0 ms offset.

 

The Windows time sync runs as a service using the local system account, there will be a small amount of latency with this approach.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow
Sent: 11 May 2022 04:44
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

You can do that using the PC version of Symmetricom's ntp client. If not that there is a full up ntp server/client for NTP out there on the web. One or both of those options should include the standard com port. The accuracy may not be all that great, though. There is a lot of latency variation with Windows. And Windows time setting granularity is 1 ms when a program has the multi-media timers active and set to 1 ms.

{^_^}

On 20220510 10:25:09, EA7HGL wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Simon. I have seen in the forecast of version 1.2.7 of the "World Map", an NTP client, would it be possible to implement the reading of the clock of a GPS (installed in a serial port)? It would be appreciated in areas or circumstances without internet connection . Thanks for your time. Antonio D. (EA7HGL)

 


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Re: World Map - Rotator COM Ports

Simon Brown
 

Hi,

 

Prosistel uses its own protocol which you’ll not find in the World Map. At present I do not plan to add any more protocols, I really added the rotator support for myself then extended it for other Yaesu users.

 

Sorry, World Map is not a major rotator controller program at present.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of sm6fhz
Sent: 11 May 2022 08:32
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map - Rotator COM Ports

 

Hi Simon and all.
I just looked into the rotator function in World Map and concluded that

  • I do not know the protocol that my PST-61 with Control Box "D" uses wrt the ones in the drop down list
  • I can not see that World Map displays the present actual beam heading anywhere, read from the Control Box.


The World Map seems to connect OK to the Control Box "D" and there is some kind of data flowing.
I must be missing something.
Can anyone direct me to some instructions that can guide me to success.

BTW I am using USR-VCOM to go from COM-port to Ethernet communication to my remote location where the rotator is situated.

This is what I see in the communication monitoring window when using the ERC-Mini protocol.



73 / Ingolf, SM6FHZ


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Re: World Map - Rotator COM Ports

sm6fhz
 

Hi Simon and all.
I just looked into the rotator function in World Map and concluded that

  • I do not know the protocol that my PST-61 with Control Box "D" uses wrt the ones in the drop down list
  • I can not see that World Map displays the present actual beam heading anywhere, read from the Control Box.

The World Map seems to connect OK to the Control Box "D" and there is some kind of data flowing.
I must be missing something.
Can anyone direct me to some instructions that can guide me to success.

BTW I am using USR-VCOM to go from COM-port to Ethernet communication to my remote location where the rotator is situated.

This is what I see in the communication monitoring window when using the ERC-Mini protocol.



73 / Ingolf, SM6FHZ


Re: Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

Simon Brown
 

And,

 

Testing my device it shows a time resolution of just one second.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 10 May 2022 21:36
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

Yes,

 

Could do that, I have such a device.

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of EA7HGL
Sent: 10 May 2022 18:25
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Simon. I have seen in the forecast of version 1.2.7 of the "World Map", an NTP client, would it be possible to implement the reading of the clock of a GPS (installed in a serial port)? It would be appreciated in areas or circumstances without internet connection . Thanks for your time. Antonio D. (EA7HGL)


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Re: Version 3.0.26 Wobbly audio ?

Martin Ooijman
 

thanks for the tips strange is that it is only sdr console original perseus software doesn't have that problem like sdruno and hdsr don't have that problem but we keep looking for a solution


Re: World Map 1.2.5

Simon Brown
 

Hi,

 

The correct way is to use SetupDiEnumDeviceInfo see https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/setupapi/ .

 

Older software doesn’t use this API when installing the drivers, so I also use https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winbase/nf-winbase-getdefaultcommconfigw which really just digs around in the registry.

 

Com0com and Eltira behave nicely. My recommendation is com0com.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow
Sent: 11 May 2022 05:05
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Remember there are at least three or four totally unrelated different means of enumerating COM ports. That makes "correctly installed" a bit if a tough call.

{o.o}

On 20220510 11:53:25, Simon Brown wrote:

Mike,

 

Correct – in the World Map I only list correctly installed COM ports, in Console I fall back to running through the registry. Anyway, in 1.2.7 I’ll add support for the incorrect installations.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Bott
Sent: 10 May 2022 18:21
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Simon,

The issue might be trying to understand the inconsistency between Console and World Map.

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On 5/10/22 11:27, Simon Brown wrote:

Then the VSPE installation software is not correct. I use the correct Windows setup API to list all available COM ports.

 

Try com0com, that installs correctly.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Max Mucci, N5NHJ via groups.io
Sent: 10 May 2022 16:03
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Hi Simon,

VSPE ports do not show up in the drop down list, there was someone else who pointed this out before.

Thanks

On 2022-05-10 07:16, Simon Brown wrote:

Max,

 

What are virtual ports? I need more information. If you mean a virtual serial cable then all correctly installed software is listed.

Moon etc. is not difficult – I have all the code in the satellite tracking part of SDR Console, have thought about showing a satellite, moon or a fleet of satellites (eg GPS).

 

When I get bored…

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Max Mucci, N5NHJ via groups.io
Sent: 09 May 2022 19:36
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Just a remainder about extra features, fixes to an already great software:

- Virtual ports recognized in the rotator setup;

- Moon rise,set at any given location when hovering the mouse (same think we already have for the sun)

- SUPER EXTRA: moon footprint.

73, Max

 

On 2022-05-07 15:01, Simon Brown wrote:

Yes,

 

Click the Home button in the Ribbon Bar, takes you to https://www.g4eli.com/world-map - let me know what more you need.

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of hamrad45
Sent: 07 May 2022 11:45
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

This is an awesome update.  Have not used the program in a while.  Is there some documentation or a tutorial somewhere?

 

Thanks,

 

Tom

 

On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 6:10 AM Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Grab 1.2.6 from Introduction — G4ELI

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Graham (ZL1CE)
Sent: 07 May 2022 09:52
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

When I try to run  this I get the following error



The clock is still operational at the bottom of the screen but nothing else responds and the only way I have found to get past this it to terminate the program in Task Manager (after Ctrl, Alt, Del)

73 Graham
ZL1CE
QTH: RF73jc


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Re: Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

Simon Brown
 

Hi,

 

I can tell you that with Windows & NTP setting the time results in either 0 or 1 ms offset, it’s good. An advanced NTP client talks with several NTP servers, determines round trip latency, performs long term analysis and generally results in a 0 ms offset.

 

The Windows time sync runs as a service using the local system account, there will be a small amount of latency with this approach.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow
Sent: 11 May 2022 04:44
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Future version 1.27 of the "World Map" #future

 

You can do that using the PC version of Symmetricom's ntp client. If not that there is a full up ntp server/client for NTP out there on the web. One or both of those options should include the standard com port. The accuracy may not be all that great, though. There is a lot of latency variation with Windows. And Windows time setting granularity is 1 ms when a program has the multi-media timers active and set to 1 ms.

{^_^}

On 20220510 10:25:09, EA7HGL wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Simon. I have seen in the forecast of version 1.2.7 of the "World Map", an NTP client, would it be possible to implement the reading of the clock of a GPS (installed in a serial port)? It would be appreciated in areas or circumstances without internet connection . Thanks for your time. Antonio D. (EA7HGL)

 


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Re: World Map - Rotator COM Ports

Simon Brown
 

What is the rotator controller you’re talking to?

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Max Mucci, N5NHJ via groups.io
Sent: 11 May 2022 01:33
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io; SDR-Radio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map - Rotator COM Ports

 

Logs attached.

 

On 2022-05-10 19:20, Max Mucci, N5NHJ via groups.io wrote:

I'll check it out tonight. I'll also update the VSPE installation (first..) just in case.

Thanks!

73, Max

On 2022-05-10 19:15, Simon Brown wrote:

So,

 

For those who had a problem, please try: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AovWaZDu7HrdgYBDVujIHq2ooWHKKg?e=7AMYA4

 

Simon Brown

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https://www.sdr-radio.com

 


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Re: World Map - Rotator COM Ports

Simon Brown
 

OK,

 

Sorry – for now use a proper serial port solution, com0com works OK. I’ll list the programs I’ve tested this with later today.

 

FWIW it looks like there’s a timeout issue.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Max Mucci, N5NHJ via groups.io
Sent: 11 May 2022 01:33
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io; SDR-Radio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map - Rotator COM Ports

 

Logs attached.

 

On 2022-05-10 19:20, Max Mucci, N5NHJ via groups.io wrote:

I'll check it out tonight. I'll also update the VSPE installation (first..) just in case.

Thanks!

73, Max

On 2022-05-10 19:15, Simon Brown wrote:

So,

 

For those who had a problem, please try: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AovWaZDu7HrdgYBDVujIHq2ooWHKKg?e=7AMYA4

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 


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Re: World Map 1.2.5

jdow
 

Remember there are at least three or four totally unrelated different means of enumerating COM ports. That makes "correctly installed" a bit if a tough call.

{o.o}

On 20220510 11:53:25, Simon Brown wrote:

Mike,

 

Correct – in the World Map I only list correctly installed COM ports, in Console I fall back to running through the registry. Anyway, in 1.2.7 I’ll add support for the incorrect installations.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Bott
Sent: 10 May 2022 18:21
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Simon,

The issue might be trying to understand the inconsistency between Console and World Map.

--
Mike



On 5/10/22 11:27, Simon Brown wrote:

Then the VSPE installation software is not correct. I use the correct Windows setup API to list all available COM ports.

 

Try com0com, that installs correctly.

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Max Mucci, N5NHJ via groups.io
Sent: 10 May 2022 16:03
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Hi Simon,

VSPE ports do not show up in the drop down list, there was someone else who pointed this out before.

Thanks

On 2022-05-10 07:16, Simon Brown wrote:

Max,

 

What are virtual ports? I need more information. If you mean a virtual serial cable then all correctly installed software is listed.

Moon etc. is not difficult – I have all the code in the satellite tracking part of SDR Console, have thought about showing a satellite, moon or a fleet of satellites (eg GPS).

 

When I get bored…

 

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Max Mucci, N5NHJ via groups.io
Sent: 09 May 2022 19:36
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

Just a remainder about extra features, fixes to an already great software:

- Virtual ports recognized in the rotator setup;

- Moon rise,set at any given location when hovering the mouse (same think we already have for the sun)

- SUPER EXTRA: moon footprint.

73, Max

 

On 2022-05-07 15:01, Simon Brown wrote:

Yes,

 

Click the Home button in the Ribbon Bar, takes you to https://www.g4eli.com/world-map - let me know what more you need.

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of hamrad45
Sent: 07 May 2022 11:45
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

This is an awesome update.  Have not used the program in a while.  Is there some documentation or a tutorial somewhere?

 

Thanks,

 

Tom

 

On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 6:10 AM Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Grab 1.2.6 from Introduction — G4ELI

 

Simon Brown

https://www.g4eli.com

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Graham (ZL1CE)
Sent: 07 May 2022 09:52
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] World Map 1.2.5

 

When I try to run  this I get the following error



The clock is still operational at the bottom of the screen but nothing else responds and the only way I have found to get past this it to terminate the program in Task Manager (after Ctrl, Alt, Del)

73 Graham
ZL1CE
QTH: RF73jc


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