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Re: Basic AGC Question

jdow
 

Enabling the graph (the right hand button at the top of the AGC pane) gives you a way to visualize what should be happening. Then use the sliders to move it around. The graph shows output level vertically and input level horizontally. The threshold slider controls where the graph bends. The slope is there if  you want to show some modest hint of signal level by making weak signals sound slightly weaker than strong signals. You can set it to zero if you want. Some people like that slope and some don't. Decay is the length of time it takes gain to go to maximum when a very strong signal goes away. Hang is one of the best inventions of the early days of SSB. When it is enabled and a large signal goes away the gain stays constant for say half a second before it starts to increase for no signal. This is nice for gaps between syllables or words.



{^_^}

On 20211207 07:45:15, Simon Brown wrote:

Bob,

 

  • FM does not use AGC
  • For SSB I use Slow
  • For CW I use Medium or Fast.
  • For broadcast AM Slow.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of rmrrgs
Sent: 07 December 2021 13:35
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Basic AGC Question

 

Hello,

 

Have never played with these much, but figure it is about

time I learned how best to utilize them.

 

Regarding AGC:

 

For “typical” sw monitoring, do you folks typically use Off, Fast, Med or Slow ?  Why/When ?

 

If, e.g. Med, could someone explain please how best to optimize, or adjust, the Threshold, Slope, Hang, and Decay.  

 

I imagine there must be a better and more disciplined way than my merely fiddling with them and trying to hear what sounds best.

 

Or, most of the time, just leave Off, and just play with the Gain Slider ?

Thanks,
Bob                   Should I have posted this in the other Forum ?

 

 


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Re: Basic AGC Question

Simon Brown
 

Bob,

 

  • FM does not use AGC
  • For SSB I use Slow
  • For CW I use Medium or Fast.
  • For broadcast AM Slow.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of rmrrgs
Sent: 07 December 2021 13:35
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Basic AGC Question

 

Hello,

 

Have never played with these much, but figure it is about

time I learned how best to utilize them.

 

Regarding AGC:

 

For “typical” sw monitoring, do you folks typically use Off, Fast, Med or Slow ?  Why/When ?

 

If, e.g. Med, could someone explain please how best to optimize, or adjust, the Threshold, Slope, Hang, and Decay.  

 

I imagine there must be a better and more disciplined way than my merely fiddling with them and trying to hear what sounds best.

 

Or, most of the time, just leave Off, and just play with the Gain Slider ?

Thanks,
Bob                   Should I have posted this in the other Forum ?

 

 


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Re: Basic AGC Question

Alan G4ZFQ
 

I imagine there must be a better and more disciplined way than my merely fiddling with them and trying to hear what sounds best.
Bob,

Not really, the controls are there for you to adjust to suit your taste.
Sometimes software gives more options than you need.. best note the defaults before fiddling.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


Basic AGC Question

rmrrgs <rgsrose@...>
 

Hello,
 
Have never played with these much, but figure it is about
time I learned how best to utilize them.
 
Regarding AGC:
 
For “typical” sw monitoring, do you folks typically use Off, Fast, Med or Slow ?  Why/When ?
 
If, e.g. Med, could someone explain please how best to optimize, or adjust, the Threshold, Slope, Hang, and Decay.  
 
I imagine there must be a better and more disciplined way than my merely fiddling with them and trying to hear what sounds best.
 
Or, most of the time, just leave Off, and just play with the Gain Slider ?

Thanks,
Bob                   Should I have posted this in the other Forum ?
 
 


Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

David J Taylor
 

On 07/12/2021 07:08, Simon Brown wrote:
* Right click
* Show More options
* Edit
* Opens with Notepad.

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com
Win-10:

- right-click
- edit

In Win-11, the show more options is required, and also requires an extra click
to open the contents of the show more menu.

Of course, there are occasions when a menu can have too many options, but in
this case the new menu is a wretched nuisance!

I also turn off the ribbon bar, as (to me) it's just an unnecessary complication!

73,
David GM8ARV
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Web: https://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

milairuk
 

Thanks all who replied, didn't realise it was in the "Scale" drop-down, I had just gone to the "Signal Meter" drop-down.

73 John


Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

Simon Brown
 

  • Right click
  • Show More options
  • Edit
  • Opens with Notepad.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

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From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of David J Taylor via groups.io
Sent: 06 December 2021 19:23
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] S Meter #sdr-consolev3

 

On 06/12/2021 17:22, Simon Brown wrote:

> ?

> Just use Notepad.

> Simon Brown, G4ELI

> https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

In Win-11:

 

- right-click the file

- no edit menu option

- move to More

- nothing happens, unlike other cascading menus

- click on More

- see an edit option

 

Painful compared to Win-10!

 

73,

David GM8ARV

 


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Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

jdow
 

That it why I periodically lobby for multiple means of controlling features. One I figure is too often neglected is the infamous right click context menu.

{^_-}

On 20211206 08:30:28, David J Taylor via groups.io wrote:
On 06/12/2021 12:56, Simon Brown wrote:
They are, there’s a lot of goodness hidden in the ribbon bar…

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com <https://www.sdr-radio.com/>

But too much hiding can make for more customer support effort (and time lost).  E.g. trying to edit a .CMD file under WIndows-11.

David GM8ARV


Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

David J Taylor
 

On 06/12/2021 17:22, Simon Brown wrote:
?

Just use Notepad.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com
In Win-11:

- right-click the file
- no edit menu option
- move to More
- nothing happens, unlike other cascading menus
- click on More
- see an edit option

Painful compared to Win-10!

73,
David GM8ARV
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Web: https://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

Simon Brown
 

?

Just use Notepad.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com

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From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of David J Taylor via groups.io
Sent: 06 December 2021 16:30
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] S Meter #sdr-consolev3

On 06/12/2021 12:56, Simon Brown wrote:
They are, there’s a lot of goodness hidden in the ribbon bar…

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com <https://www.sdr-radio.com/>
But too much hiding can make for more customer support effort (and time lost).
E.g. trying to edit a .CMD file under WIndows-11.





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Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

David J Taylor
 

On 06/12/2021 12:56, Simon Brown wrote:
They are, there’s a lot of goodness hidden in the ribbon bar…
Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com <https://www.sdr-radio.com/>
But too much hiding can make for more customer support effort (and time lost). E.g. trying to edit a .CMD file under WIndows-11.

David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: https://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

Simon Brown
 

They are, there’s a lot of goodness hidden in the ribbon bar…

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow
Sent: 06 December 2021 10:06
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] S Meter #sdr-consolev3

 

Oops - I did get the wrong menu. All the menus are worth exploring.

{^_-}

On 20211206 01:58:42, Max wrote:

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 09:16 AM, jdow wrote:

View ribbon->Signal Meter Click on what you want.

Just by way of illustrating Joanne's response.

73

Max

 


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Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

jdow
 

Oops - I did get the wrong menu. All the menus are worth exploring.

{^_-}

On 20211206 01:58:42, Max wrote:
On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 09:16 AM, jdow wrote:
View ribbon->Signal Meter Click on what you want.
Just by way of illustrating Joanne's response.

73

Max



Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

Max
 

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 09:16 AM, jdow wrote:
View ribbon->Signal Meter Click on what you want.
Just by way of illustrating Joanne's response.

73

Max


Re: S Meter #sdr-consolev3

jdow
 

View ribbon->Signal Meter Click on what you want.
{^_^}

On 20211206 00:41:41, milairuk via groups.io wrote:
Apologies if this is a dum question - On my SDRC I only have two options for an S Meter in analog mode: Default (dBm) and SNR. A recent unrelated post by Allan G3PIY shows his console displaying S units which as old timer I much prefer.
How can I get this one ? Using V3.1 build 2431 on W10.

Thanks

John G3VUO


S Meter #sdr-consolev3

milairuk
 

Apologies if this is a dum question - On my SDRC I only have two options for an S Meter in analog mode: Default (dBm) and SNR. A recent unrelated post by Allan G3PIY shows his console displaying S units which as old timer I much prefer.
How can I get this one ? Using V3.1 build 2431 on W10.

Thanks

John G3VUO


Re: Resolution

BobS
 

I've taken a look at the Console application on a 2560 x 1600 screen. Under Windows 11 and at 200% scale, all of the fonts and icons are tack-sharp. I didn't need to touch any DPI settings whatsoever.

Bob, W4RLS


Re: Resolution

Gedas
 

Sri for the OT reply but I was nodding my head up and down when I read ur post Tom. I still have fond memories of my true IBM PC running at a whopping 4.77 MHz (and cheating by adding my own clock doubler), then when I moved up to the 80286 I remember splurging only $300 for the 287 math co-processor. Wow we were big "stuff" back then when I could run an antenna analysis in half the time that only took 7-8 hours. My how times have changed.

Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT

Gallery at http://w8bya.com
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 12/5/2021 1:19 PM, Tom Crosbie G6PZZ wrote:

Allan,

Despite building computers since the 286 and being an IT consultant with MCSE and CCNA qualifications for over 10 years, I would be reluctant to mess around with any flavour of RAID!

I certainly wouldn’t like to try an in place upgrade. I would be making a couple of backups of the data and doing a fresh instal of the OS then restoring the data having rebuilt the RAID.

Fresh installs are a PITA though. The OS is the easy bit. It’s the apps and settings and other hardware that becomes the problem.

You could also try building a totally new PC, leaving the old one as a “server”, accessing your data over your network. Then build a new RAID in the new PC, before copying your data across.

I like to get value for money and my retiring PC was built around 2011. Still works and I may yet drag it out of retirement for another project!

Good luck if/when you upgrade.

 

Tom G6PZZ

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allan Isaacs
Sent: 05 December 2021 14:08
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Resolution

 

OK Tom

All understood

I paid loads for my Win 7 Ult x64bit many years ago and having tried the free embryo Win 10 on other computers I hated it but of course it got much better… (re auto updates for example)

 

A pal upgraded straight away and it messed up his RAID (which I’d organised when I built his computer). Fortunately I fixed this by suggesting he downloaded the latest version of Intel RST.

As this is my business computer with both hardware and software RAID I’m still a little reticent but I think it should be OK by now because I’ve since upgraded lots of machines… so… I may take the plunge soon.

If it all falls apart it will be a good excuse to retire!

Win 11 is a no-go on my motherboard.

 

I understand that by changing dpi in the properties of the EXE file in for example an Adobe program it’s possible in the later versions of Win10 to open say PhotoShop in standard HD rather than UHD.

 

In the meantime if I drag say Outlook or PhotoShop across to my old 1920 monitor its fine. Two 28 inch monitors do take up a lot of room.

 

Funny thing but the new HP display came with an A5 booklet in 35 languages plus English. All printed in pale grey on grey paper in microscopic font. I could only just read this with a magnifying glass. It said it would meet all FCC specs if installed using the instructions. No instructions included however but it did say in brackets you have to use a screened connector lead and not to operate near to a receiver or a transmitter..

My Andrus SDR is operated over my network so is 80 feet away which should be ample.

73 Allan G3PIY

 

 

 


Re: Resolution

Michael.2E0IHW
 

Tom,

Way pre and post 286, I totally agree!

My tutor-supplied  long since retired PC  still purrs contentedly.

OK, I did post-HE  *upgrade*  it to LINUX  :-)

Michael 2E0IHW

...
I like to get value for money and my retiring PC was built around 2011. Still works and I may yet drag it out of retirement for another project!
...
Tom G6PZZ


Re: Resolution

Tom Crosbie G6PZZ
 

Allan,

Despite building computers since the 286 and being an IT consultant with MCSE and CCNA qualifications for over 10 years, I would be reluctant to mess around with any flavour of RAID!

I certainly wouldn’t like to try an in place upgrade. I would be making a couple of backups of the data and doing a fresh instal of the OS then restoring the data having rebuilt the RAID.

Fresh installs are a PITA though. The OS is the easy bit. It’s the apps and settings and other hardware that becomes the problem.

You could also try building a totally new PC, leaving the old one as a “server”, accessing your data over your network. Then build a new RAID in the new PC, before copying your data across.

I like to get value for money and my retiring PC was built around 2011. Still works and I may yet drag it out of retirement for another project!

Good luck if/when you upgrade.

 

Tom G6PZZ

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allan Isaacs
Sent: 05 December 2021 14:08
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] Resolution

 

OK Tom

All understood

I paid loads for my Win 7 Ult x64bit many years ago and having tried the free embryo Win 10 on other computers I hated it but of course it got much better… (re auto updates for example)

 

A pal upgraded straight away and it messed up his RAID (which I’d organised when I built his computer). Fortunately I fixed this by suggesting he downloaded the latest version of Intel RST.

As this is my business computer with both hardware and software RAID I’m still a little reticent but I think it should be OK by now because I’ve since upgraded lots of machines… so… I may take the plunge soon.

If it all falls apart it will be a good excuse to retire!

Win 11 is a no-go on my motherboard.

 

I understand that by changing dpi in the properties of the EXE file in for example an Adobe program it’s possible in the later versions of Win10 to open say PhotoShop in standard HD rather than UHD.

 

In the meantime if I drag say Outlook or PhotoShop across to my old 1920 monitor its fine. Two 28 inch monitors do take up a lot of room.

 

Funny thing but the new HP display came with an A5 booklet in 35 languages plus English. All printed in pale grey on grey paper in microscopic font. I could only just read this with a magnifying glass. It said it would meet all FCC specs if installed using the instructions. No instructions included however but it did say in brackets you have to use a screened connector lead and not to operate near to a receiver or a transmitter..

My Andrus SDR is operated over my network so is 80 feet away which should be ample.

73 Allan G3PIY

 

 

 

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