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Re: 3D waterfall OT

jdow
 

No, you aren't the only one. As I see it the ribbon is a triumph of wasted screen space dedicated to cute rather than function.

{o.o}

On 20210705 06:50:26, ronwhat wrote:
Jdow, am I the only one who prefers the old menu system rather than the MS Ribbon? In Word or Excel, I knew where to find any menu item I used…it was always there. Then came the Ribbon, with no option to choose it or the old menu bar. Now it is often a real effort to find which ribbon I need to go to in order to access an item that I don’t use regularly. I think the ribbon function should include option for old style menu listing of all commands, gray out any that are not valid at the point in the program.

Now, returning to your regularly scheduled topic. End OT.

Ron Biddle
KA4RON

On Jul 4, 2021, at 8:41 PM, jdow <jdow@...> wrote:

 May I suggest to you that you take a slow cruise through the menu system. You might discover a whole lot of goodies you had no idea were there. (I am sure somebody else has already pointed out that its on the view menu or "ribbon bar".)

{^_^}

On 20210704 03:55:41, Jos Stevens wrote:


Please, where to find that magic button to activate the 3D display, I searched long but can't find it.

Thanks,

Jos


Op 3-7-2021 om 23:07 schreef jdow:
What is stupid about the window can be put away, dismissed? I did not mean it can be removed from SDRC. It's not mandatory that the window be up if you do not want it.
{O.O}

On 20210703 04:54:28, Jens wrote:
 
... NO , 3D should get some more development !
 
SDR-Console is one of the best outstanding SDR application , maybe the best !!!
Instead making always reclamation ... it`s better to think about donation for
Simon and his great continously work !!!
 
I don`t like and have enough about stupid comments here ...
 
73 , Jens / HB9JOI
 
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From: jdow
Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 1:23 AM
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall
 
The window can be dismissed.
{^_^}

On 20210702 08:27:03, David J Taylor via groups.io wrote:
On 02/07/2021 13:48, Francesco Di Giovanni wrote:
I find the 3D waterfall the most useless feature, only choreography.
[]

73
Francesco Di Giovanni - IN3XZP

Can you disable it?  I've not had chance to test as yet.

David GM8ARV



Virusvrij. www.avast.com



Re: 3D waterfall

jdow
 

I am thinking of other things like the matrix display, various data displays, and so forth.
{o.o}

On 20210705 04:50:45, Jos Stevens wrote:


Yes I found it, thanks.

Jos

Op 5-7-2021 om 02:40 schreef jdow:
May I suggest to you that you take a slow cruise through the menu system. You might discover a whole lot of goodies you had no idea were there. (I am sure somebody else has already pointed out that its on the view menu or "ribbon bar".)

{^_^}

On 20210704 03:55:41, Jos Stevens wrote:


Please, where to find that magic button to activate the 3D display, I searched long but can't find it.

Thanks,

Jos


Op 3-7-2021 om 23:07 schreef jdow:
What is stupid about the window can be put away, dismissed? I did not mean it can be removed from SDRC. It's not mandatory that the window be up if you do not want it.
{O.O}

On 20210703 04:54:28, Jens wrote:
 
... NO , 3D should get some more development !
 
SDR-Console is one of the best outstanding SDR application , maybe the best !!!
Instead making always reclamation ... it`s better to think about donation for
Simon and his great continously work !!!
 
I don`t like and have enough about stupid comments here ...
 
73 , Jens / HB9JOI
 
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From: jdow
Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 1:23 AM
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall
 
The window can be dismissed.
{^_^}

On 20210702 08:27:03, David J Taylor via groups.io wrote:
On 02/07/2021 13:48, Francesco Di Giovanni wrote:
I find the 3D waterfall the most useless feature, only choreography.
[]

73
Francesco Di Giovanni - IN3XZP

Can you disable it?  I've not had chance to test as yet.

David GM8ARV



Virusvrij. www.avast.com



Re: SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for transverters

Conrad, PA5Y
 

Well I disagree, SNR improves as you reduce bandwidth, this is just physics. If the metering does not reflect this then the SNR metering is simply wrong. Just use your ears.

 

Conrad

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of oldjackbob via groups.io
Sent: 05 July 2021 16:43
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for transverters

 

Per the info on Simon's page explaining the operation of the S-meter, "[The signal level] is the peak spectrum FFT bin (output value) which is within the current filter."

That page is found here: https://www.sdr-radio.com/s-meter

Simon explains it clearly. There is no correlation of peak FFT bin value to filter bandwidth (or AGC level, or any other consideration), nor should there be. Any modern SDR-based S-meter that changes its reading based on filter bandwidth is doing it wrong.

I've said it before: Simon got it right, many others are getting it wrong.

Mark

 


Re: 3D waterfall

Conrad, PA5Y
 

Tha’ what? Nowt up wit Yorkshire accent, it wor designed t keeyup sutheners guessin.

 

Ok looks worse when you write it down.

 

Regards

 

Conrad PA5Y(orkshire)

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of jdow via groups.io
Sent: 05 July 2021 12:34
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

Yorkshire, Yorky(?), accent gets me. "What did he say?"

And indeed heavy use of ALC is REALLY REALLY REALLY bad. The needle should quiver perhaps once every ten to thirty seconds if at all.

{^_^}

On 20210705 03:29:37, Simon Brown wrote:

Thinking… could be driving an amp with ALC (bets to not use ALC, just reduce drive).

 

Next time please make a note etc. Now listening to 75m early bird nets. Struggling with some of the southern accents!

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
Sent: 05 July 2021 04:00
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

I just wish operators of FTDX10's could learn how NOT to QRM the band!
I have found ONLY ONE user of the FTDX10 that did NOT have a lousy signal...

Exhibit A:



The IC-7300's always have a nice 3kHz signal.

Just my humble observations.

73 Kriss KA1GJU


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Re: 3D waterfall

Conrad, PA5Y
 

There was a recent FW update for the FTDX-10 I understand. I have some TX composite noise measurements from Rob Sherwood and it looks very clean, no sure if it is public domain but I am sure if you asked him he would provide it. It is good.

 

Regards

 

Conrad PA5Y

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simon Brown via groups.io
Sent: 05 July 2021 06:16
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

Ah,

 

Shame – the FTDX-10 has a different PA module to the FTDX-101, I was hoping it would be clean .

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
Sent: 05 July 2021 04:00
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

I just wish operators of FTDX10's could learn how NOT to QRM the band!
I have found ONLY ONE user of the FTDX10 that did NOT have a lousy signal...

Exhibit A:



The IC-7300's always have a nice 3kHz signal.

Just my humble observations.

73 Kriss KA1GJU


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Re: SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for transverters

Bob Dengler
 

At 7/5/2021 12:06 PM, you wrote:
Please define 'average channel power'.
See SM6FHZ Ingolf's message a few minutes after mine; for quick reference here is the posting: <<https://sdr-radio.groups.io/g/main/message/23048>https://sdr-radio.groups.io/g/main/message/23048>. I think he is asking for a little more than I am but my request is basically the same: recording average channel power over time.

By "average channel power" I mean the amount of power a calorimetric power meter would record if the channel power were to be fed to one. There is the issue of integration time: I'd say the average power read by such a power meter over that integration time is what we're looking for.

Bob NO6B


Re: SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for transverters

sm6fhz
 

Hi.
I made a request for this (Continuum mode) in 2014 together with a basic specification of possible functions.
It can be found here:
https://sdr-radio.groups.io/g/main/message/23048
I hope it can make a baseline fore further development of a in dept specification.
73 / Ingolf, SM6FHZ


Re: SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for transverters

Bob Dengler
 

At 7/5/2021 10:43 AM, you wrote:
On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 09:26 AM, Bob Dengler wrote:
I strongly disagree. How else is one supposed to make total channel power measurements for radiometry? SDRs aren't just for communications, & any developer that codes their SDR apps otherwise is hamstringing their full potential. Right now the only apps I know of that can do this are HDSDR & SDRuno. HDSDR is compatible with all my SDRs so that covers my needs, but it would be nice if SDRC could display & record average channel power readings as well as HDSDR is fairly useless for NBFM monitoring (no de-emphasis).

I'll have to go through the forum archives to see if this has been requested, & do so if not.

Bob NO6B

Please define "average power". I've also seen the term "integrated power" bandied about in the Flex forums. There is no established definition for either term.
We can choose to split hairs on average vs. sample vs. RMS. I think for purposes of amateur radiometry, any of the above will do. If I'm wrong someone please chime in.

The function of an S-meter is not to report the "total power" or "average power" or "integrated power" in the passband, it is to report the highest voltage measured anywhere in the passband, irrespective of any nebulous "total power" contained within the filter. That's what Simon's S-meter does.
OK, fair enough.

An S-meter, as described above, is useless to me. I would like to see the option of switching the S-meter function in SDRC to an average channel power meter.

:)

Thanks

Bob NO6B


Re: SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for transverters

Simon Brown
 

Please define 'average channel power'.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Dengler
Sent: 05 July 2021 20:03
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for
transverters

At 7/5/2021 09:37 AM, you wrote:
Bob,

Is this Continuum mode? I would need an exact specification were I to
add this.
Not sure if I understand the question. I'm referring to the channel power
or S-meter, which if I understand correctly current indicates peak channel
power. It would be nice to have the option to have it read average channel
power, then also have the ability to store those readings to a CSV file (2
columns: time & dBm) every x milliseconds. This is exactly what HDSDR
offers. Once calibrated with a known noise source or hot/cold load, this
allows using an SDR as a radiometer. Also give us one or two significant
digits after the dBm decimal point.

I'll put the above in the SDRC Requests forum if needed. Thanks!

Bob NO6B










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Re: SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for transverters

Bob Dengler
 

At 7/5/2021 09:37 AM, you wrote:
Bob,

Is this Continuum mode? I would need an exact specification were I to add
this.
Not sure if I understand the question. I'm referring to the channel power or S-meter, which if I understand correctly current indicates peak channel power. It would be nice to have the option to have it read average channel power, then also have the ability to store those readings to a CSV file (2 columns: time & dBm) every x milliseconds. This is exactly what HDSDR offers. Once calibrated with a known noise source or hot/cold load, this allows using an SDR as a radiometer. Also give us one or two significant digits after the dBm decimal point.

I'll put the above in the SDRC Requests forum if needed. Thanks!

Bob NO6B


Re: SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for transverters

Mark Cayton
 
Edited

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 09:26 AM, Bob Dengler wrote:
I strongly disagree. How else is one supposed to make total channel power measurements for radiometry? SDRs aren't just for communications, & any developer that codes their SDR apps otherwise is hamstringing their full potential. Right now the only apps I know of that can do this are HDSDR & SDRuno. HDSDR is compatible with all my SDRs so that covers my needs, but it would be nice if SDRC could display & record average channel power readings as well as HDSDR is fairly useless for NBFM monitoring (no de-emphasis).

I'll have to go through the forum archives to see if this has been requested, & do so if not.

Bob NO6B
Please define "average power". I've also seen the term "integrated power" bandied about in the Flex forums. There is no established definition for either term.

The function of an S-meter is not to report the "total power" or "average power" or "integrated power" in the passband, it is to report the highest voltage measured anywhere in the passband, irrespective of any nebulous "total power" contained within the filter. That's what Simon's S-meter does.

Per the definition established in IARU Region 1 Technical Recommendation R.1, "the metering system shall be based on quasi-peak detection". Notice the reference to "peak detection". There is no "average power" mentioned anywhere in the definition. A correctly designed S-meter by definition reports only the peak signal strength detected, nothing more and nothing less.

As Simon has stated long ago, if anyone wants anything else reported (such as "total power") he would be glad to look into that, as a separate meter. But his S-meter has always been in strict compliance with the published definition.

Mark


Re: 3D waterfall

Simon Brown
 

I agree 😊 .

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of ?????? ??????
Sent: 05 July 2021 17:42
To: main@sdr-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

Hi Simon
From wishes for the future - I would like to see wide-band 3D panoramas, several megahertz wide. I think the guys from Aaronia are very good at this and raised the bar. I'll just leave a link to their software if you don't mind. At one time, I was very impressed by their 3D constellation diagrams! This is a huge field for creativity, may the force be with you, I hope we will see amazing things in the Console.

 

Без вирусов. www.avast.ru

 

пн, 5 июл. 2021 г. в 19:26, Matthias Bopp <matthias.bopp@...>:

Hi Simon,

 

what might be nice is a function to support browsing in stored I/Q-files using the 3D-waterfall function.

 

Kind regards

 

Matthias

 

www.dd1us.de

 

 

Von: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Simon Brown
Gesendet: Montag, 5. Juli 2021 18:25
An: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

Bart,

 

It’s something that has to be written to know whether it’s of any use. Now that I have it I see how I could have an optional 3D interface in the main tuning window – spectrum and waterfall combined. I’m not planning this for 2021 but am keeping it in mind. It would be super-funky 😊 .

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bart AA7VA
Sent: 05 July 2021 17:15
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

I find it interesting, and played with it for awhile.  Wasn't sure where in the band, or band width, was showing, but comparisons with the waterfall soon rectified that.
One thing that might help, the background noise (noise floor) does not match that in the waterfall it seems.  I need to adjust the waterfall to see the noise a bit to help in locating signals on the 3D - maybe some freq numbers, or other locating device could be added?  And/or a slide to adjust the background noise level in the 3D separate from the waterfall one? Using the "Auto" button on the left of main panel makes the 3D have zero background to help see the weak signals, so the suggested slide or a bit more gain in the base 3D setting may be of assistance.
Looks like a nifty addition, not sure if I will use it a lot, but interesting to play with.
Thanks for the toy Simon!


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Re: 3D waterfall

данила фадеев
 

Hi Simon
From wishes for the future - I would like to see wide-band 3D panoramas, several megahertz wide. I think the guys from Aaronia are very good at this and raised the bar. I'll just leave a link to their software if you don't mind. At one time, I was very impressed by their 3D constellation diagrams! This is a huge field for creativity, may the force be with you, I hope we will see amazing things in the Console.

Без вирусов. www.avast.ru

пн, 5 июл. 2021 г. в 19:26, Matthias Bopp <matthias.bopp@...>:

Hi Simon,

 

what might be nice is a function to support browsing in stored I/Q-files using the 3D-waterfall function.

 

Kind regards

 

Matthias

 

www.dd1us.de

 

 

Von: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Simon Brown
Gesendet: Montag, 5. Juli 2021 18:25
An: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

Bart,

 

It’s something that has to be written to know whether it’s of any use. Now that I have it I see how I could have an optional 3D interface in the main tuning window – spectrum and waterfall combined. I’m not planning this for 2021 but am keeping it in mind. It would be super-funky 😊 .

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bart AA7VA
Sent: 05 July 2021 17:15
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

I find it interesting, and played with it for awhile.  Wasn't sure where in the band, or band width, was showing, but comparisons with the waterfall soon rectified that.
One thing that might help, the background noise (noise floor) does not match that in the waterfall it seems.  I need to adjust the waterfall to see the noise a bit to help in locating signals on the 3D - maybe some freq numbers, or other locating device could be added?  And/or a slide to adjust the background noise level in the 3D separate from the waterfall one? Using the "Auto" button on the left of main panel makes the 3D have zero background to help see the weak signals, so the suggested slide or a bit more gain in the base 3D setting may be of assistance.
Looks like a nifty addition, not sure if I will use it a lot, but interesting to play with.
Thanks for the toy Simon!


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Re: SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for transverters

Simon Brown
 

Bob,

Is this Continuum mode? I would need an exact specification were I to add
this.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Dengler
Sent: 05 July 2021 17:26
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for
transverters

At 7/5/2021 07:43 AM, you wrote:
Per the info on Simon's page explaining the operation of the S-meter, "[The
signal level] is the peak spectrum FFT bin (output value) which is within
the current filter."That page is found here:Â
<https://www.sdr-radio.com/s-meter>https://www.sdr-radio.com/s-meterSimon
explains it clearly. There is no correlation of peak FFT bin value to filter
bandwidth (or AGC level, or any other consideration), nor should there be.
Any modern SDR-based S-meter that changes its reading based on filter
bandwidth is doing it wrong.I've said it before: Simon got it right, many
others are getting it wrong.Mark

I strongly disagree. How else is one supposed to make total channel power
measurements for radiometry? SDRs aren't just for communications, & any
developer that codes their SDR apps otherwise is hamstringing their full
potential. Right now the only apps I know of that can do this are HDSDR &
SDRuno. HDSDR is compatible with all my SDRs so that covers my needs, but
it would be nice if SDRC could display & record average channel power
readings as well as HDSDR is fairly useless for NBFM monitoring (no
de-emphasis).

I'll have to go through the forum archives to see if this has been
requested, & do so if not.

Bob NO6B










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Re: 3D waterfall

Matthias Bopp
 

Hi Simon,

 

what might be nice is a function to support browsing in stored I/Q-files using the 3D-waterfall function.

 

Kind regards

 

Matthias

 

www.dd1us.de

 

 

Von: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Simon Brown
Gesendet: Montag, 5. Juli 2021 18:25
An: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

Bart,

 

It’s something that has to be written to know whether it’s of any use. Now that I have it I see how I could have an optional 3D interface in the main tuning window – spectrum and waterfall combined. I’m not planning this for 2021 but am keeping it in mind. It would be super-funky 😊 .

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bart AA7VA
Sent: 05 July 2021 17:15
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

I find it interesting, and played with it for awhile.  Wasn't sure where in the band, or band width, was showing, but comparisons with the waterfall soon rectified that.
One thing that might help, the background noise (noise floor) does not match that in the waterfall it seems.  I need to adjust the waterfall to see the noise a bit to help in locating signals on the 3D - maybe some freq numbers, or other locating device could be added?  And/or a slide to adjust the background noise level in the 3D separate from the waterfall one? Using the "Auto" button on the left of main panel makes the 3D have zero background to help see the weak signals, so the suggested slide or a bit more gain in the base 3D setting may be of assistance.
Looks like a nifty addition, not sure if I will use it a lot, but interesting to play with.
Thanks for the toy Simon!


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Re: SNR meter, bandwidth and gain adjustment for transverters

Bob Dengler
 

At 7/5/2021 07:43 AM, you wrote:
Per the info on Simon's page explaining the operation of the S-meter, "[The signal level] is the peak spectrum FFT bin (output value) which is within the current filter."That page is found here:Â <https://www.sdr-radio.com/s-meter>https://www.sdr-radio.com/s-meterSimon explains it clearly. There is no correlation of peak FFT bin value to filter bandwidth (or AGC level, or any other consideration), nor should there be. Any modern SDR-based S-meter that changes its reading based on filter bandwidth is doing it wrong.I've said it before: Simon got it right, many others are getting it wrong.Mark
I strongly disagree. How else is one supposed to make total channel power measurements for radiometry? SDRs aren't just for communications, & any developer that codes their SDR apps otherwise is hamstringing their full potential. Right now the only apps I know of that can do this are HDSDR & SDRuno. HDSDR is compatible with all my SDRs so that covers my needs, but it would be nice if SDRC could display & record average channel power readings as well as HDSDR is fairly useless for NBFM monitoring (no de-emphasis).

I'll have to go through the forum archives to see if this has been requested, & do so if not.

Bob NO6B


Re: 3D waterfall

Simon Brown
 

Bart,

 

It’s something that has to be written to know whether it’s of any use. Now that I have it I see how I could have an optional 3D interface in the main tuning window – spectrum and waterfall combined. I’m not planning this for 2021 but am keeping it in mind. It would be super-funky 😊 .

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bart AA7VA
Sent: 05 July 2021 17:15
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] 3D waterfall

 

I find it interesting, and played with it for awhile.  Wasn't sure where in the band, or band width, was showing, but comparisons with the waterfall soon rectified that.
One thing that might help, the background noise (noise floor) does not match that in the waterfall it seems.  I need to adjust the waterfall to see the noise a bit to help in locating signals on the 3D - maybe some freq numbers, or other locating device could be added?  And/or a slide to adjust the background noise level in the 3D separate from the waterfall one? Using the "Auto" button on the left of main panel makes the 3D have zero background to help see the weak signals, so the suggested slide or a bit more gain in the base 3D setting may be of assistance.
Looks like a nifty addition, not sure if I will use it a lot, but interesting to play with.
Thanks for the toy Simon!


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Re: 3D waterfall

Bart AA7VA
 

I find it interesting, and played with it for awhile.  Wasn't sure where in the band, or band width, was showing, but comparisons with the waterfall soon rectified that.
One thing that might help, the background noise (noise floor) does not match that in the waterfall it seems.  I need to adjust the waterfall to see the noise a bit to help in locating signals on the 3D - maybe some freq numbers, or other locating device could be added?  And/or a slide to adjust the background noise level in the 3D separate from the waterfall one? Using the "Auto" button on the left of main panel makes the 3D have zero background to help see the weak signals, so the suggested slide or a bit more gain in the base 3D setting may be of assistance.
Looks like a nifty addition, not sure if I will use it a lot, but interesting to play with.
Thanks for the toy Simon!


Re: 3D waterfall OT

Gisle Vanem
 

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 05:51 PM, David J Taylor wrote:

...in some [Windows] programs

A MFC-program? Must be old Office-2007 type of programs.

I would be disappointed if SDR Console didn't conform to that convention.

SDR-Console uses MFC v14 I believe. And the MFC Library supports the
Microsoft Office Fluent User Interface which modern Office programs uses.
Maybe this Fluent UI has some more advanced options for such things.


Re: 3D waterfall OT

David J Taylor
 

On 05/07/2021 16:37, Gisle Vanem wrote:
Select /Minimize the Ribbon/:
Thanks, but there is a standard way of minimising the ribbon in some [Windows] programs - the small up and down arrows on the right-hand side. I would be disappointed if SDR Console didn't conform to that convention.

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David
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