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Re: SDR-Radio for the Swl/Dxer

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Hah! Actually UI design is something I was very bad at, it's interesting and I'm learning a great deal.

 

A project like my console really needs four people but nevertheless I'm happy with it at present.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

http://sdr-radio.com

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Andy obrien

Simon is Constable (http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/217348/1/Golding-Constable$27s-Kitchen-Garden.jpg)  and Patrick is Cezanne  (http://www.quarryscapes.no/images/Quarry_of_the_month/Bibemus_Cezanne.jpg

 


Re: SDR-Radio for the Swl/Dxer

Andy obrien <k3ukandy@...>
 

 

GUI design is 99% art; 1% technical

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 1:48 AM
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] SDR-Radio for the Swl/Dxer

 
 


Re: SDR-Radio for the Swl/Dxer

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

It's also what Software Engineering is about.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

http://sdr-radio.com

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of R R Robson
 

GUI design is 99% art; 1% technical

 

From: jmiles56@...

I've got to say this is one nice program. After looking at all the posts about 90% are
ham related. Once all the tx stuff is added in I hope it doesn't
end up looking like multipsk.. Great program also but trying to find just
the receive stuff and trying to pick through it is not fun. I keep seeing many things on want list ( yelp I have several also) but just hope that all the additions aren't gonna bloat it down.just my 2 cents for those for us who are looking at receive side only.

 


Re: SDR-Radio for the Swl/Dxer

R R Robson <rrrobson@...>
 

GUI design is 99% art; 1% technical

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 1:48 AM
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] SDR-Radio for the Swl/Dxer

 

I've got to say this is one nice program. After looking at all the posts about 90% are
ham related. Once all the tx stuff is added in I hope it doesn't
end up looking like multipsk.. Great program also but trying to find just
the receive stuff and trying to pick through it is not fun. I keep seeing many things on want list ( yelp I have several also) but just hope that all the additions aren't gonna bloat it down.just my 2 cents for those for us who are looking at receive side only.

Cheers
Jim


SDRRADIO_error_report_100422-194937.rar

ic8pof
 

HI Simon & All, fb for the new newsgroup.

As Simon has only 2 eyes and 2 hands, a super-octopus would be better,
I post here the advice for the crash-dump I have already uploaded via ftp.
As a memo : v1b268 ZOOM works and AFSpectrum still crashes.
73
Phil@IC8POF


Re: Welcome

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Hi,

 

1.      Flex - once their FireWire driver stops crashing (BSOD) I may buy a 5000a.

2.      TX - with SoftRock by the end of May 2010.

3.      Yes.

4.      The next HRD kit works with the SDR-RADIO console.

 

About Flex support - although I can add this the software you need should be provided by Flex, after all you've paid them enough :) They say (I think) that Deep Impact will be available this year, but even so once there's a bullet-proof driver I would still be interested *unless* an alternative to Flex appears on the market and there's a good chance that it will (and I cannot say any more at the moment so don't ask).

 

So let's see - towards the end of 2010 I'll know whether the competition to Flex will happen and I'll make a decision one way or another regarding support for Flex radios in this software. I do feel honour-bound to add Flex support as Flex has made SDR so very popular in the Ham community.

 

My gut feeling: I'll be buying a Flex in August / September 2010.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

http://sdr-radio.com

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of s3hampton
Sent: 23 April 2010 17:30

1. Works with the Flex-Radios.
(Replaces or enhances PowerSDR?)

2. Allows TX as well as RX modes.
(I have now used SDR-Radio on my laptop to receive only; NICE!!)

3. Allow RX and TX audio to be coupled to a Flex or an Icom, etc., with no need for the likes of added hardware, VAC-with-Skype, etc.)

4. (This is logically the "path..") -But I'll add this last point anyway; -SDR-Radio will REPLACE HRD or will work with HRD.

 


Re: Support for Soft66 Receivers

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

Hi,

 

I agree - there's logic missing as you have explained. I'll think through it more later - please give me some days or a few weeks to get other code fixed.

 

Moving VFO-A shouldn't return the SDR but I haven't tried this with a SOftRock.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

http://sdr-radio.com

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Michael Morgan
Sent: 24 April 2010 00:02
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Subject: RE: [sdr-radio-com] Support for Soft66 Receivers

 

 

Simon,

  At this point what are the options for me to try and write a external interface until you have time to integrate it?  I looked over the info you have posted here (http://www.sdr-radio.com/Support/Interfacing/CATCommands.aspx) and I wrote a quick application just to take that and tune my Soft66ADH.  It worked well except the only I could really use it was to have to VFO's since everytime I moved VFO A it would tune the SDR.  I had to use VFO A to set the "center" and use VFO B to tune up and down.  How hard would it be to possibly put an option for one of the 3 VFO's in the kenwood command set to be the center freq or add a fourth option FD to be the center?

 

Michael, AA5SH

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Simon HB9DRV
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:40 AM
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Subject: RE: [sdr-radio-com] Support for Soft66 Receivers

 





Ah - saw that, OK.

 

Don't use any .NET myself but I'll be able to understand it, haven't used Basic since 1983! Support will not happen overnight :)

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

http://sdr-radio.com

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Michael Morgan
Sent: 23 April 2010 15:35
 

If you download the control software it has the vb.net control source.  If youdont see it I can forward you a copy tonight.






Re: SDR-Radio for the Swl/Dxer

Simon HB9DRV <simon@...>
 

It will *never* look like that. The TX support will be in a docking pane, if you don't TX then don't display the pane, it's really that simple :)

 

It's a challenge keeping the UI simple but with the framework I use it can be done!

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

http://sdr-radio.com

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of jmiles56@...
 

Once all the tx stuff is added in I hope it doesn't
end up looking like multipsk.

 


SDR-Radio for the Swl/Dxer

jmiles56@sbcglobal.net <jmiles56@...>
 

I've got to say this is one nice program. After looking at all the posts about 90% are
ham related. Once all the tx stuff is added in I hope it doesn't
end up looking like multipsk.. Great program also but trying to find just
the receive stuff and trying to pick through it is not fun. I keep seeing many things on want list ( yelp I have several also) but just hope that all the additions aren't gonna bloat it down.just my 2 cents for those for us who are looking at receive side only.


Cheers
Jim


Re: Support for Soft66 Receivers

Michael Morgan <cmorgan13@...>
 

Simon,

  At this point what are the options for me to try and write a external interface until you have time to integrate it?  I looked over the info you have posted here (http://www.sdr-radio.com/Support/Interfacing/CATCommands.aspx) and I wrote a quick application just to take that and tune my Soft66ADH.  It worked well except the only I could really use it was to have to VFO's since everytime I moved VFO A it would tune the SDR.  I had to use VFO A to set the "center" and use VFO B to tune up and down.  How hard would it be to possibly put an option for one of the 3 VFO's in the kenwood command set to be the center freq or add a fourth option FD to be the center?

 

Michael, AA5SH

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Simon HB9DRV
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:40 AM
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Subject: RE: [sdr-radio-com] Support for Soft66 Receivers

 




Ah - saw that, OK.

 

Don't use any .NET myself but I'll be able to understand it, haven't used Basic since 1983! Support will not happen overnight :)

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

http://sdr-radio.com

 

From: sdr-radio-com@... [mailto:sdr-radio-com@...] On Behalf Of Michael Morgan
Sent: 23 April 2010 15:35
 

If you download the control software it has the vb.net control source.  If youdont see it I can forward you a copy tonight.





Re: Editing the broadcast database ?

Andy obrien <k3ukandy@...>
 

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Tanner <bet110@...> wrote:



If it is just one or two frequencies of interest it might be best to use the 'memory' feature. That has worked well for me in the range all the way from 870 KHz to 10 MHz WWV.  Using a Softrock V6.2 + Xtal for 80/40 meters.
bet

but you do not get the nice "track" and time of day features that the
database affords.

Andy.


Re: Editing the broadcast database ?

Andy obrien <k3ukandy@...>
 

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Bruce Tanner <bet110@...> wrote:



Just a thought with no knowledge... but be sure to check you are saving it back to the correct folder.
Only a complete bozo would do that. In fact I did it...once...but
came to my senses and tried it a second time and made sure I saved to
the correct folder. Did not work though.

Andy


Re: Waterfall and audio out of sync

Andy obrien <k3ukandy@...>
 


The issue I noticed while connecting to remote servers: the audio may be up to 3-4s late compared to the waterfall. The delay seems to be variable and accumulates when the connection quality isn't good (drops in the audio).
This may be considered a "feature", because it gives you some time to jump to the new signal on the waterfall and still hear it from the beginning of the transmission, but the variation doesn't let you use it consistently.

Is it just my imagination, shear coincidence, or is the latency longer with the new version? 

Andy


Re: Cracks and Pops....

Andy obrien <k3ukandy@...>
 

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:05 PM, k2bet1 <bet110@...> wrote:
I also learned something else that I had wondered. If I am listening to the SDR Radio console in "Local" mode, I can do so safely without disrupting the processing of an incoming remote request for the system. The remote will take over control of the system but will at least give that control to the incoming request. It is nice to know that because I have been 'not listening' when I wanted to at times for fear that it would block access from the remote request.

All done...

Bruce, K2BET


I did not know that, useful info. Thanks!


Re: Elektor SDR vs Softrock

Dom Baines M1KTA
 

David,

Thanks for the notes.

There have been LF softrock users on 136kHz and 500kHz for a while and Jim Moritz M0BMU in RSGB LF Today published examples of how to make the simple V6.2 Softrock of use at LF and VLF. You can find the schematic on several blogs e.g. http://g3zjo-radio.blog.co.uk/2010/03/21/softrock-lite-ii-for-500khz-and-136khz-8215824/ or my own http://m1kta-qrp.blogspot.com/2008/10/500khz.html

My RX on 500kHz is a modified Softrock using a 4Mhz crystal LO and divide by 8 and the band width even with a 16 bit 48KHz sound card is much wider than the allocation from 501-504khz.

72

Dom
M1KTA


From: David <davidjmessing@...>
To: sdr-radio-com@...
Sent: Fri, 23 April, 2010 20:12:23
Subject: [sdr-radio-com] Elektor SDR vs Softrock

>
I see the various talk about Softrock SDR. When I first looked at them last year, I noticed they did not tune down to 540kHz.

For $139 I purchased the Elektor board. I struggled from April to January until I purchased the E-Mu 0202. It was like the sun had risen. It worked really well at a full 190kHZ bandwidth. The comment I read about the low entry cost of Softrock, I couldn't hold back a pitch for Elektor.
It worked beyond my expectations. I suggest buying their bandpass kit for about $80 which would bring it to just over $200.
Within the month, I purchased the RFSpace SDR-IQ, mainly because it has a serial output which interfaces to a ham rig , the Elektor does not have. The RFSpace has about 6 LPF (low pass filters) that switch in and out with frequency.
So give the Elektor a look. With just the basic board, you will have the SDR experience.
Dave
K0RWM


Elektor SDR vs Softrock

davidjmessing
 

I see the various talk about Softrock SDR. When I first looked at them last year, I noticed they did not tune down to 540kHz.

For $139 I purchased the Elektor board. I struggled from April to January until I purchased the E-Mu 0202. It was like the sun had risen. It worked really well at a full 190kHZ bandwidth. The comment I read about the low entry cost of Softrock, I couldn't hold back a pitch for Elektor.

It worked beyond my expectations. I suggest buying their bandpass kit for about $80 which would bring it to just over $200.

Within the month, I purchased the RFSpace SDR-IQ, mainly because it has a serial output which interfaces to a ham rig , the Elektor does not have. The RFSpace has about 6 LPF (low pass filters) that switch in and out with frequency.

So give the Elektor a look. With just the basic board, you will have the SDR experience.

Dave
K0RWM


Remote Server

Dom Baines M1KTA
 

Just in case others fall foul of this basic config error will share it here...

If the last line in the server error log looks like this:

Status = ERROR There is an unclosed literal string. Line 1, position 236.

It means you have use 'special characters' somewhere in the text strings. edit them and the last line will chnage to:

Status = OK

I had put 80m & 40m and the ampersand was causing the error, result was server stopped appearing in lists of remote servers.

72

Dom
M1KTA


Cracks and Pops....

Bruce Tanner
 

I have just been enjoying a bit of self indulgence...

I have my SR V6.2 set up on a desktop running SDR Radio under Windows 7. I accessed it remotely from an Acer One netbook in an adjoining room remotely and for the first time heard the 'cracking and popping' referred to by others. For what is is worth I learned, that at least in this arrangement, I was able to completely eliminate the cracking and popping by increasing the Audio Out setting "Queue Size" to '30', remotely via the netbook.

I was listening to CW in LCW mode at the time. BTW, when I pressed the button that says "CW" on the panel from the remote unit it appeared to change the frequency on the 'home' system. Not sure what that was about but I had to retune to get the signal back again.

I also learned something else that I had wondered. If I am listening to the SDR Radio console in "Local" mode, I can do so safely without disrupting the processing of an incoming remote request for the system. The remote will take over control of the system but will at least give that control to the incoming request. It is nice to know that because I have been 'not listening' when I wanted to at times for fear that it would block access from the remote request.

All done...

Bruce, K2BET


Waterfall and audio out of sync

vbifyz
 

Simon, first I thank you for the great software you are writing. I've been using HDR for about a year to control my FT-817.
I still use Winrad as my primary software with my Softrock v9+xtall, because it has more signal-related knobs and feels more responsive and polished.
But the ability to connect to remote radios is just amazing. I'm going to put mine online as soon as I get a dedicated computer for it (right now I'm using my work laptop). My QTH is a bit noisy, but early morning PDT hours (10-15UTC) are good for monitoring the Pacific area.

The issue I noticed while connecting to remote servers: the audio may be up to 3-4s late compared to the waterfall. The delay seems to be variable and accumulates when the connection quality isn't good (drops in the audio).
This may be considered a "feature", because it gives you some time to jump to the new signal on the waterfall and still hear it from the beginning of the transmission, but the variation doesn't let you use it consistently.

73,
Misha


Re: Welcome

Mike K0JTA
 

Hello, Simon!

Just to add my "point of view" to the pile: My desire is to have the following points features in a future release:

1. Works with the Flex-Radios.
(Replaces or enhances PowerSDR?)

2. Allows TX as well as RX modes.
(I have now used SDR-Radio on my laptop to receive only; NICE!!)

3. Allow RX and TX audio to be coupled to a Flex or an Icom, etc., with no need for the likes of added hardware, VAC-with-Skype, etc.)

4. (This is logically the "path..") -But I'll add this last point anyway; -SDR-Radio will REPLACE HRD or will work with HRD.

In looking at the SDR-Radio product, I am very pleased and feel excited at the future enhancements. If this stuff has been covered before, please forgive me.

I am amazed at the degree of quality as well as on-going enhancements that I see in HRD! (From this, my expections-trends come..?)

73!!!! -Mike- KØJTA

--- In sdr-radio-com@..., "Simon HB9DRV" <simon@...> wrote:

Yes, currently RX only. I'm planning on having full TRX by the end of June
at the latest, first transceiver being the MOBOKIT and SoftRock v6.3 .
With any luck there will be some interesting SDR transceiver announcements
this year.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
http://sdr-radio.com



Well, I'm nowhere near the first to post, but still in the forefront of
early posts. I've been looking forward to Simon's SDR-radio program.... The
RXTX version. I think this one is still RX only?

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