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Re: New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

Barry Baines
 

Todd:

On Dec 1, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Todd Brown <todd.ab2ms@...> wrote:

Support for this will be great, I've been using / learning UNO since I got my dx, but have used console for many years until now. Just can't fully get used to a new program. 


Much like other software packages, RSPuno has a significant learning curve in part because one has to learn the ‘paradigm’ of how the software is based.  I use it because I have a RSPduo (dual tuners) and RSPuno is the only software currently available that has the ability to support the second tuner.  I purchased the Duo because it makes it much easier to monitor two sets of frequencies well past the typical band limitations of a single tuner (e.g. 896 and 937 MHz or 928 and 952 MHz at the same time) with a single USB connection to the SDRduo going to their own data applications via VAC.  I started using SDRduo in January 2019 and 11 months later I’m feeling relatively comfortable with how the software works.  SDRPlay does provide video introductions on YouTube as well as PDF tech notes to help users get up to speed.   These videos are relatively well done but I found them to be not as helpful as I had hoped because their focus is on HF and shortwave reception as well as the presenter racing through their material.  I found myself having to replay small segments in order to catch a better glimpse of the screen display and matching what the presenter was saying to what was being displayed.

I suspect that should Simon provide an upgrade to SDR Console in 2020 to support the dual tuner capability of SDRduo, that will be when I start focusing on SDR Console and going through the learning curve of how to use SDR Console for the purposes that I purchased SDRduo.  

FWIW, I have found the SDRPlay tech support team very responsive to queries about operation of the software and they are maintaining a ‘road map’ listing of future enhancements based upon user feedback.  I suspect that there are a variety of applications/uses that  present their own set of ‘wants’ in terms of functionality and user interaction.   Having SDRPlay technical representatives at both the 2019 Hamcation and the 2019 Hamvention that I attended available to answer questions, demonstrate the software, and correct misunderstandings went a long way to help me with the learning curve.  Hopefully, they will be at the 2020 Hamcation in February and 2020 Hamvention in May as well.  I can’t say enough about the value of having a ‘hands on’ demo or gaining immediate feedback that provides the opportunity for followup in person.  

I primarily use the SDRduo in a mobile environment using a 12” laptop with a touchpad for data reception.  Given the focus of SDRuno’s use of a mouse interface, I am limited in what parameters I can easily change, such as a VFO frequency.  Likewise, their display presumes the user is using a relatively large screen display rather than a small screen.  Over time, I’ve learned how to configure SDRuno to only display what is absolutely needed for my purposes.  I have shared my suggestions with the tech team on what would make it easier for mobile users and I’m hopeful that we’ll see some of these recommendations implemented at some point in the future.  

For example, while it is currently possible to save ‘memory frequencies’ including mode (FM), submode (narrow band FM) filter setting, antenna port used, and whether it is part of a scan list (Y/N) for the bank of frequencies being saved, there is currently no provision for saving ALL parameters associated with a particular instance such as which line output (e.g. VAC line out), AGC level, squelch level, etc associated with a particular ’session.’    It currently isn’t possible to create a ‘backup’ of a current configuration with a specified file name to recall in the future.   However, I see listed on the current SDRPlay roadmap SDRPlay’s intention in v1.41 the ability to backup/restore .ini files and the ability to create and restore complete receiver profiles. This is certainly encouraging news.

Currently, starting SDRuno is a manual process where the user opens SDRuno and it will open the configuration for Tuner 1 that existed when that session was previously closed.   If the second tuner is needed, one must manually configure the SDRuno session associated with a particular device to recognize the second tuner when a second SDRuno application is opened.  Once that is done, the users starts the second SDRuno application and the configuration is opened that was last used as the second application session.  In essence, the user has to manually reverse the sequence of steps  taken when SDRuno is shut down (e.g. second tuner is slaved to the first tuner, so one has to close the slave tuner before closing the master tuner).  Things get more complicated if two SDRduo receivers are used on the same PC as one must shut down the sessions in reverse order and then open again in the same order to ensure that a particular session is associated with the proper tuner of a particular SDRduo.  Given that different tuners maybe attached to particular preamps and antennas for particular bands, getting the sessions right is critical.  Hopefully this process will be vastly simplified and improved whenever SDRuno v1.41 is released.
  
One additional ‘wish item’ that I’ve passed along to SDRPlay’s tech support is the ability to autostart SDRuno where the software would open two sessions of SDRuno (one for each tuner), then open a specific configuration for each tuner, and then put each session into ‘play’ to start receiving data.  The ability to autostart will greatly enhance SDRuno for remote operation as well as while operating mobile to ensure the desired configuration settings are selected with minimal user intervention.  I’d rather be spending my time running the SDRduo and collecting data while mobile rather than pulling over to the side of the road to get things started with the software package managing the device or resolving technical issues because something got inadvertently changed and there isn’t a current means of retrieving a specifically stored session.  

In summary, SDRuno has come a long way over the past year and hopefully the improvements will continue. As users become more comfortable with SDR technology and find new ways to put these devices to good use, the developers will hopefully continue to provide desired enhancements to widen the potential for these devices.  Simon has certainly been instrumental in making SDR Console something special and I’m hoping that both he and SDRPlay will make it possible for the SDRduo users to fully benefit from what this technology has to offer.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX
(Currently in Boston, MA)

















Re: Pinned messages

Zacharias Liangas
 
Edited

How many times does he have to respond to inquiries with a "Please attach screen shot and log files in order for me to help you, I can't see your screen."

Simon
Can you understand screenshot mAdm from a printscreen save  in case sdrc totally freezes?


Re: Super magnify questions on 3.0.17

jdow
 

Get a faster CPU and video card. SDR-Radio couples update rate to number of FFT bins with both depending on how much compute capability exists on your machine. You are seeing FFT bins there.
{^_^}

On 20191201 10:53:54, Zacharias Liangas via Groups.Io wrote:
Below is  screenshot using the 3.0.17 version that shows that near the higheet zooms the spectrum is digitally zoomed rather than pysically
Could this revert to b more natural ? I m sure that carriers are not so thick as the  screenshot shows
Just also notice that the sonogram carrier seems 'offset' from the spectrum depiction...
(these photos are from the previous days )


Re: How to set up SDRC for server use

Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
 

Bjarne,

   That firewall is used to keep select IP's out of your server, such as an abuser, one that occupies it 24/7. Mine is NOT enabled as of now, and there are no entries in the list. The help file on Firewall is very specific. Once you place an IP in the White List, then ONLY that IP is allowed to use the server providing the Firewall is enabled.

The poster above has an issue using a server, more of a firewall(?) issue on his end, not mine. Mine are in use day and night! :)

73 Kriss KA1GJU


Re: Super magnify questions on 3.0.17

Siegfried Jackstien
 

yepp ... run lower line speed gets better resolution :-)

dg9bfc sigi

Am 01.12.2019 um 20:02 schrieb Simon Brown:

OK,

 

A few comments:

 

  • Use the maximum available resolution: Ribbon bar, View, Waterfall, Resolution
  • The Spectrum (top) and Waterfall (bottom) had different FFT sizes, so the bins will not be at the same place.
  • I can provide high speed or high resolution. Both at the same time is not easy.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zacharias Liangas via Groups.Io
Sent: 01 December 2019 18:54
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Super magnify questions on 3.0.17

 

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: adding photo ]

Below is  screenshot using the 3.0.17 version that shows that near the higheet zooms the spectrum is digitally zoomed rather than pysically
Could this revert to b more natural ? I m sure that carriers are not so thick as the  screenshot shows
Just also notice that the sonogram carrier seems 'offset' from the spectrum depiction...
(the one  photo is  from the previous days )


Re: New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

Todd Brown
 

Support for this will be great, I've been using / learning UNO since I got my dx, but have used console for many years until now. Just can't fully get used to a new program. 


Re: How to set up SDRC for server use

Bjarne Mjelde
 

I had no firewall problems with my setup after I ticked the correct choices in the "Network" tab, see attachment. Win10-64 Pro & TP-Link router.
--
Bjarne Mjelde
arcticdx.blogspot.com
Remote receivers: 
arcticsdr.ddns.net:8073/
kongsdr.ddns.net:8074


Re: New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

Everett N4CY
 

everettsharp@... Thanks Simon

In a message dated 12/1/2019 2:07:57 PM Central Standard Time, simon@... writes:

Hi,

 

I need your real e-mail address to invite you to the test team.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Everett N4CY via Groups.Io
Sent: 01 December 2019 18:38
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

 

Hi Simon,


I will be very happy when you have the fixes for SDRplay RSPdx installed, as the SDRuno software sucks...


Everett N4CY


Re: New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

Simon Brown
 

Hi,

 

I need your real e-mail address to invite you to the test team.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Everett N4CY via Groups.Io
Sent: 01 December 2019 18:38
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

 

Hi Simon,

 

I will be very happy when you have the fixes for SDRplay RSPdx installed, as the SDRuno software sucks...

 

Everett N4CY


Re: Super magnify questions on 3.0.17

Simon Brown
 

OK,

 

A few comments:

 

  • Use the maximum available resolution: Ribbon bar, View, Waterfall, Resolution
  • The Spectrum (top) and Waterfall (bottom) had different FFT sizes, so the bins will not be at the same place.
  • I can provide high speed or high resolution. Both at the same time is not easy.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zacharias Liangas via Groups.Io
Sent: 01 December 2019 18:54
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] Super magnify questions on 3.0.17

 

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: adding photo ]

Below is  screenshot using the 3.0.17 version that shows that near the higheet zooms the spectrum is digitally zoomed rather than pysically
Could this revert to b more natural ? I m sure that carriers are not so thick as the  screenshot shows
Just also notice that the sonogram carrier seems 'offset' from the spectrum depiction...
(the one  photo is  from the previous days )


Re: New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

Simon Brown
 

Well,

 

I’ve been writing SDR Console longer than SDRuno (although SDRuno evolved from Studio1), just give the SDRplay boys time. It really depends what you want.

 

I’m using a RSPduo at the moment with the v3 library, I must say it’s not at all bad but there are no super-strong signals about tonight.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Everett N4CY via Groups.Io
Sent: 01 December 2019 18:38
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

 

Hi Simon,

 

I will be very happy when you have the fixes for SDRplay RSPdx installed, as the SDRuno software sucks...

 

Everett N4CY


Re: Super magnify questions on 3.0.17

Jerry Lofstead
 

USB AM


On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 1:54 PM Zacharias Liangas via Groups.Io <zliangas=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Below is  screenshot using the 3.0.17 version that shows that near the higheet zooms the spectrum is digitally zoomed rather than pysically
Could this revert to b more natural ? I m sure that carriers are not so thick as the  screenshot shows
Just also notice that the sonogram carrier seems 'offset' from the spectrum depiction...
(these photos are from the previous days )



Re: New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

Mike Bott
 

On 12/1/19 1:37 PM, Everett N4CY via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Simon,

I will be very happy when you have the fixes for SDRplay RSPdx installed, as the SDRuno software sucks...

Everett N4CY


Au contraire, mon frère, I find the SDRuno package quite good.  The major difference for a newer user is that it has a bit of a steeper learning curve than SDR Console. 

--
Mike


Re: New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

Everett N4CY
 

Hi Simon,

I will be very happy when you have the fixes for SDRplay RSPdx installed, as the SDRuno software sucks...

Everett N4CY

In a message dated 12/1/2019 12:30:10 PM Central Standard Time, simon@... writes:

Hi,

 

I’ve just got the Duo working as before – no diversity, maybe I’ll do that in January / February 2020 as diversity will become more important over the next few years.

 

So – I have to add the RSPdx logic, then I (we) can start testing. I don’t have a RSPdx, also my RSP2 is in use on a hill top (no goat herd) but I’m sure there’s plenty of RSP2 / RSPdx owners on this list..

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Baines via Groups.Io
Sent: 30 November 2019 20:17
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

 

Simon:


Your note below doesn’t reference the RSPduo.   Presumably the current software supports single tuner mode for the RSPduo.   Will providing second tuner capability for the RSPduo be something that will be added as part of your current efforts  to provide SDRPlay updates?



73,


Barry Baines, WD4ASW

Keller, TX

(Currently in Boston, MA)


dll missing

Zacharias Liangas
 

Today after starting the program I seen this mesage.
It says: "the code run cannot be done because the BugTrapU64 cannot be found . Reinstaling the program can posibly solve this problem..."
Did this problem happened to you? I m not sure why caused this
I reboot the PC but problem persisted !



Re: New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

Simon Brown
 

Hi,

 

I’ve just got the Duo working as before – no diversity, maybe I’ll do that in January / February 2020 as diversity will become more important over the next few years.

 

So – I have to add the RSPdx logic, then I (we) can start testing. I don’t have a RSPdx, also my RSP2 is in use on a hill top (no goat herd) but I’m sure there’s plenty of RSP2 / RSPdx owners on this list..

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Baines via Groups.Io
Sent: 30 November 2019 20:17
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SDR-Radio] New SDRPlay Unit Out. (Called An RSPdx)

 

Simon:

 

Your note below doesn’t reference the RSPduo.   Presumably the current software supports single tuner mode for the RSPduo.   Will providing second tuner capability for the RSPduo be something that will be added as part of your current efforts  to provide SDRPlay updates?

 

 

73,

 

Barry Baines, WD4ASW

Keller, TX

(Currently in Boston, MA)


Re: Receiver preferences #rsp1a

kb3cs
 

(more fully formed)
for each running receiver: the ability to save a number of configuration tuples. 'receiver' here not in the sense of receiving hardware itself, but including each active tuned frequency. each with their own set of BW, gain, etc.

(though no one has yet asked precisely this, i am confident this has been what is asked a few times now)

 - 1o (base 49) -


On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 01:12 AM, JAP wrote:
Hello,
It would be nice to have for each receiver in the bandwidth Antenna, Scale low/high and Zoom saved. Same as actually modes & filters. I don't know if it's possible.
Kind regards, Jean.


Re: SDRC Development for RSPDuo - Diversity

kb3cs
 

there is one right now: KerberosSDR. it's rtl2832 based.

  - 1o (base 49) -


On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:45 PM, Simon Brown wrote:

Charles,

 

Actually it’s quite a lot of work but is something I want to do as there will be a SDR with 4 phase-coherent receivers in 2020 / 2021 with any luck. That really would be interesting.

 

Getting on quite well with the implementation of the v3 SDRplay library.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io <main@SDR-Radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Muller
Sent: 30 November 2019 05:24
To: main@SDR-Radio.groups.io
Subject: [SDR-Radio] SDRC Development for RSPDuo - Diversity

 

Simon,

When you are considering further SDRC development for the SDRPlay radios, please would you consider incorporating diversity control functionality for the RSPDuo? I imagine a Gain/Phase panel for mouse control, but also a slider each for Gain and Phase as mousing around a panel can be tedious for small corrections.

I hope this is not too much to ask, especially as I know so little about the SDRPlay APIs.

Thank you for considering this, and for providing such good software for such a wide range of radios.

Regards,
Charles.
VK1CM

 


Re: How to set up SDRC for server use

Kriss Kliegle KA1GJU
 

Since routers vary significantly, it's difficult to describe in detail each and every one. My router's firewall is on the default setting of Medium for what that's worth. Never had to adjust it.

As to Windows Firewall, this machine operates as a server for "KA1GJU Airspy Discovery #2 and SDR-iq #2" and there is a Windows pop up asking about permission to which I answer Yes, allow incoming traffic. But as a user, I don't think that applies.

Be sure any other Antivirus is off or add SDRC to it's exceptions, I've been bit by this issue before!

Otherwise, start a new thread with the issue involved (with screen shots attached, LOL) as to get Simon's and others attention. You may have to use the Print Screen key, open in Paint, crop out the garbage, then save, and attach.

73 Kriss KA1GJU


Re: How to set up SDRC for server use

sm6fhz
 

Thanks for a very nice description, Kriss! 
Excellent. A very clear step by step guidance. This message ought to be a "Pinned" one, for sure.
Do you also have some guidance in how to set up your local computer Windows firewall as well as any needed firewall settings in you local router (WiFi or wired)?
I can see your servers with their radios BUT as soon as I hit "Start" in order to activate the radio SDR-Console hangs and has to be restarted. Any hints on what to do there?
73 / Ingolf, SM6FHZ