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Re: No audio Console V3 and SDRPlay2

Joe Puma
 

Cormac,

Yeah it's all pretty straightforward and it sounds like you're not doing anything wrong. Have you tried another SDR programs like SDR# to rule out that the issue isn't the virtual audio cable? Have you tried to listen to that ATP signal on your speakers in SDR Console? How does it sound?

If all else fails and short of uninstalling and reinstalling software I would reset SDR Console and reset or re-create the virtual audio cable. Good luck let us know how you make out. 

Joe,
KD2NFC 


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On Aug 27, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Cormac EI4HQ <ei4hq.mail@...> wrote:

Joe,

Nice to meet you. Using WxToImg to decode. I've checked all potential sources of distortion in the SDR Console v3 audio path and can't find any i.e. noise reduction, squelch etc. I'm using Virtual Audio Cable to patch the audio to WxtoImg (as I am in my Windows 7 setup) and I've run every check I can think of on that particular aspect - it's working fine with everything else. The issue is the audio contains no modulation at point of departure from SDR Console v3...

I've no issues with the other APT decode setup here (the one running on Windows 7) and everything in SDR Console v3 and WxToImg is set up the same on Windows 10 as it is on that working Win7 installation. Something weird is going on during the signal decode in SDR Console v3 with the RSP1 on the Windows 10 box... what's messing up the DSP chain? That's the question...

BR
Cormac, EI4HQ


Re: RS-918SSB - SDR Transceiver

Rob Ram
 

Hi Dave,

Theoretically, I support your idea. However this is the internet where
what you and say is open to criticism from all sorts of wackos and ID
theft. I do not trust the internet, do not trust Google, my internet
service supplier ...etc. 

I was first licensed in 1959 as a novice, up graded to technician class
in the late 60's and finally to extra class, at the FCC office in
Manhattan, about 1995. Regardless, I will keep my callsign private when
using the internet.

73's Robert



On 8/27/2017 10:14 AM, w7aqk wrote:Hi Dave


First, I'm always a bit irked when messages contain no real
identification, like a call sign, so we at least know approximately
who and where you are.


Dave W7AQK


Re: No audio Console V3 and SDRPlay2

Cormac, EI4HQ
 

Joe,

Nice to meet you. Using WxToImg to decode. I've checked all potential sources of distortion in the SDR Console v3 audio path and can't find any i.e. noise reduction, squelch etc. I'm using Virtual Audio Cable to patch the audio to WxtoImg (as I am in my Windows 7 setup) and I've run every check I can think of on that particular aspect - it's working fine with everything else. The issue is the audio contains no modulation at point of departure from SDR Console v3...

I've no issues with the other APT decode setup here (the one running on Windows 7) and everything in SDR Console v3 and WxToImg is set up the same on Windows 10 as it is on that working Win7 installation. Something weird is going on during the signal decode in SDR Console v3 with the RSP1 on the Windows 10 box... what's messing up the DSP chain? That's the question...

BR
Cormac, EI4HQ


Re: No audio Console V3 and SDRPlay2

Joe Puma
 

I've done NOAA APT plenty of times with SDR console v3. Make sure you don't have any noise reduction turned on.  Also make sure your squelch is off. If you're not getting 24 dB of signal to noise ratio from APT you're not going to get a good decode,  but I did read that you mentioned with other setups you have no problems. How are you paving the audio output of the signal into an ATP decoder and which decoder are you using? Just curious. Wxtoimg displays the volume of your input on the lower right-hand corner. It should be set to somewhere around 60% when the level is in the green.  

Joe
KD2NFC 

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On Aug 27, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Cormac EI4HQ <ei4hq.mail@...> wrote:

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Jim et al,

I've had a similar experience today and came onto the group to seek help - the first message I fell over was yours Jim. Just this morning I installed SDR console V3 build 811 (64 bit) on a new Windows 10 machine. I've been using an SDRPlay RSP1.

With this new setup, I'm getting clear audio decode for broadcast FM stations i.e. when RF signals are strong but I've being going nuts all day trying to get audio for the NOAA APT satellites (circa 137MHz, WFM, 40KHz filter). The satellite RF signals are as per usual quite solid (I've an external QFH antenna as I regularly pull down pictures from the NOAA birds) but not anywhere near as strong as the BFM stations of course. However, no usable decoded audio was coming through for the satellites. Eventually, I figured out that the issue appears to be something to do with audio levels; NOAA 15 has just made quite a high pass here (the first decently high satellite pass since I noticed this problem) and audio did finally come through on that pass, however only toward the top of the pass i.e. when the signal was at its very strongest... That said, the audio didn't sound right - it was both scratchy and distorted (clipping).

Throughout the day I've tried changing frequency, filters, mode etc, in SDR console and, in desperation I've also tried fiddling with every audio setting I can find in Windows but to no avail. Only a very strong RF signals seems to result in audio from the setup I've outlined above. For all but the strongest signals, the received audio spectrum in SDR console is showing no audio wave form present (just static noise) though the IF spectrum is showing the RF signal as normal...

I rebooted the machine just now, and having restarted SDR console I'm getting "some" audio on the satellite signals but it's not at all right - the audio is still distorted and nothing like as strong as it should be. I've also noticed that on the RF spectrum display, a "hole" is appearing just off the centre frequency (it's appeared both to the left and to the right of fc at different times). I can make the "hole" disappear for a while by changing the LO mode but then after 30-60s it returns... I can't even begin to speculate about what, but something ain't right with the DSP chain and the RSP1 in the particular setup I've on the go ...

Finally, I've been using a Windows 7/64 bit machine with SDR Console v3, also build 811 and the same RSP1 for the sat decoding before today. For old rope, at the start of the above mentioned NOAA 15 pass, I reconnected the RSP1 to that Win7 PC, fired up SDR Console (also build 811) and the audio came thumping through even as the satellite was just peaking above the horizon... Differences; PC hardware, Windows 10...

BR
Cormac, EI4HQ
[Cobh, Cork Harbour, IO51uu / UTC+1] NNNN++++


Re: No audio Console V3 and SDRPlay2

Cormac, EI4HQ
 
Edited

Jim et al,

I've had a similar experience today and came onto the group to seek help - the first message I fell over was yours Jim. Just this morning I installed SDR console V3 build 811 (64 bit) on a new Windows 10 machine. I've been using an SDRPlay RSP1.

With this new setup, I'm getting clear audio decode for broadcast FM stations i.e. when RF signals are strong but I've being going nuts all day trying to get audio for the NOAA APT satellites (circa 137MHz, WFM, 40KHz filter). The satellite RF signals are as per usual quite solid (I've an external QFH antenna as I regularly pull down pictures from the NOAA birds) but not anywhere near as strong as the BFM stations of course. However, no usable decoded audio was coming through for the satellites. Eventually, I figured out that the issue appears to be something to do with audio levels; NOAA 15 has just made quite a high pass here (the first decently high satellite pass since I noticed this problem) and audio did finally come through on that pass, however only toward the top of the pass i.e. when the signal was at its very strongest... That said, the audio didn't sound right - it was both scratchy and distorted (clipping).

Throughout the day I've tried changing frequency, filters, mode etc, in SDR console and, in desperation I've also tried fiddling with every audio setting I can find in Windows but to no avail. Only a very strong RF signals seems to result in audio from the setup I've outlined above. For all but the strongest signals, the received audio spectrum in SDR console is showing no audio wave form present (just static noise) though the IF spectrum is showing the RF signal as normal...

I rebooted the machine just now, and having restarted SDR console I'm getting "some" audio on the satellite signals but it's not at all right - the audio is still distorted and nothing like as strong as it should be. I've also noticed that on the RF spectrum display, a "hole" is appearing just off the centre frequency (it's appeared both to the left and to the right of fc at different times). I can make the "hole" disappear for a while by changing the LO mode but then after 30-60s it returns... I can't even begin to speculate about what, but something ain't right with the DSP chain and the RSP1 in the particular setup I've on the go ...

Finally, I've been using a Windows 7/64 bit machine with SDR Console v3, also build 811 and the same RSP1 for the sat decoding before today. For old rope, at the start of the above mentioned NOAA 15 pass, I reconnected the RSP1 to that Win7 PC, fired up SDR Console (also build 811) and the audio came thumping through even as the satellite was just peaking above the horizon... Differences; PC hardware, Windows 10...

BR
Cormac, EI4HQ
[Cobh, Cork Harbour, IO51uu / UTC+1] NNNN++++


Re: No audio Console V3 and SDRPlay2

D R
 

Hi Jim,

That's exactly what happened to me a couple of weeks ago, but I found that I couldn't select the Hi-Z antenna either (it wasn't even showing up in the menu).  Whether that was linked to the problem I don't know, but the RSP1 worked ok, and the RSP2 was fine with SDR Uno but wouldn't give a squeak with SDR-Console v3.  I spent a couple of hours swapping antennas and trying different inputs and gain settings, without any effect.  Eventually it suddenly returned to normal after I tuned to an FM broadcast station, then back to HF - I just clicked on the waterfall and the audio magically came back, along with the HI-Z antenna menu option!

It may be something to do with the RSP2's input levels and Console's Auto-Mute, as I'd found a few days earlier that the RSP2 would regularly trigger Auto-Mute when I had a homemade active magnetic loop connected to the Hi-Z input, but not when it was connected to SMA A or SMA B.  Console was also very particular about the gain settings (usually had be something like RF 7, IF -45dB Manual to get it to work at all), indicating that the RSP2 was overloading (even though there was no problem with it on SDR Uno).  I found that the RSP1 actually worked much better with the magnetic loop than I could ever get the RSP2 to, so the RSP2 was relegated to FM and UHF duties only.  Auto-Mute had been turned off for a few days before I decided to try giving the RSP2 another chance to perform on the magnetic loop, and that's when the audio vanished altogether (and Auto-Mute was still off when it came back).

I haven't tried repeating the magnetic loop - RSP2 experiment, but as I'm now not the only one to have experienced the same problem it does point to there being a bug somewhere.  Keep fiddling with it, Jim and, with luck, it will start working again.

Regards,
Dave



From: Jim McKay <mckayjim65@...>
To: SDR-Radio@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, 27 August 2017, 15:21
Subject: [SDR-Radio] No audio Console V3 and SDRPlay2

Hello everyone

I am using an SDR Play 2 and SDR Console V3,0 build 811 
Everything was working fine yesterday but today everything is working except I have no audio. 
I have checked to make sure I have selected the correct out put from the DSP for RX1. Nothing is muted.
The waterfall in V3 is showing lots of signals, I just can not decode them.
The audio is working fine in Console V2,0 and SDR Uno (just checked again).
I have spent 3 hours this morning trying to get the audio but I have silence!
Please help! I dont know what else to try!
Thanks Jim
 



Re: RS-918SSB - SDR Transceiver

Mike Bott <mike_bott@...>
 

Somehow I must have missed where the transmit function of SDR Console has been hidden. Didn't realize a call was necessary for the software.

Sheeesh, get real.

--
Mike NoCall

On 08/27/2017 10:35 AM, applewiz2000 wrote:
Hi Dave,

I agree a policy of “No callsign no post” would be nice. But some members of the group may be in it for listening only, therefore not have a call.

As to prices of equipment vs. the USA, that’s probably one for another forum. My only comment is that if you notice this as a U.S. citizen, you can be sure we do!

73, Rob
M0RZF




Re: RS-918SSB - SDR Transceiver

applewiz2000 <rob@...>
 

Hi Dave,

I agree a policy of “No callsign no post” would be nice. But some members of the group may be in it for listening only, therefore not have a call.

As to prices of equipment vs. the USA, that’s probably one for another forum. My only comment is that if you notice this as a U.S. citizen, you can be sure we do!

73, Rob
M0RZF


No audio Console V3 and SDRPlay2

Jim McKay
 

Hello everyone

I am using an SDR Play 2 and SDR Console V3,0 build 811 

Everything was working fine yesterday but today everything is working except I have no audio. 

I have checked to make sure I have selected the correct output from the DSP for RX1. Nothing is muted.

The waterfall in V3 is showing lots of signals, I just can not decode them.
The audio is working fine in Console V2,0 and SDR Uno (just checked again).

I have spent 3 hours this morning trying to get the audio but I have silence!

Please help! I dont know what else to try!

Thanks Jim

 


Re: RS-918SSB - SDR Transceiver

w7aqk <w7aqk@...>
 

John and all,

First, I'm always a bit irked when messages contain no real identification, like a call sign, so we at least know approximately who and where you are.

Secondly, I don't know how "individual ham integrity" became an issue in this thread. If I followed it correctly, I think it was simply some people noting that there seem to be very high "mark ups" on imported ham gear sold by dealers. Well, there certainly is a rational reason for marking things up, but I don't see why it is wrong to question the amount. Besides, hams seem to always be looking for "a better deal". The problem is,properly analyzing just what is a better deal! If a dealer provides significant additional value, such as a guarantee of some sort, then perhaps things are different.

It doesn't seem to be any secret that, in the U.K., a couple of larger dealers have pretty much squeezed out the smaller ones. This may be due to efficiency, but it does limit competition, and pave the way for higher prices. Something similar seems to be the case here in the U.S., but not nearly as significant.

Still, I continue to be confused as to the justification for some prices I see from U.K. dealers vs. those in the U.S. Presumably they are getting their product from the same primary source. Your VAT doesn't justify the disparity. Rightly or wrongly, I conclude that it is the limited competition that causes this.

Ordering something directly from China, or some other foreign source, can be something of a "crapshoot". You may not have much, if any, recourse if there is some defect in the product. However, there are lots of very good products coming out of these foreign places, so the risk may be less than one might imagine. Actually, I have had pretty decent luck doing this, but admittedly, I've never purchased something as significant as a sophisticated transceiver in that manner. I've even acquired a "clunker" or two, and they were replaced by the seller without a lot of hassle. Perhaps I was just lucky.

In any event, I'm not suggesting that the U.K. prices quoted for this transceiver are definitely excessive, but I can certainly understand why some might question them. While the mark up here may be "reasonable", there seem to be plenty of other examples that don't seem so reasonable. So, it's not hard to understand why it causes some people to be a bit cynical in general. When the rationale is so obtuse, it's not hard to be that way.

Dave W7AQK


Re: Missing DLL files #sdrsharp

john rader
 

Dennis,

If you download from Simon Brown's site, the author, you won't have any problem with .dll files.

John


On 8/26/2017 8:53 PM, dennislt1@... wrote:

New to this site. Just downloaded SDR Console from the SDR Play website and am unable to run the program because its says I'm missing 4 different .dll files. Re-installed nurmerous times as suggested and still get the same messages. Anybody have any ideas.


Re: Moderators

Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...>
 

I was 

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On Aug 27, 2017, at 4:35 AM, Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

With the move to groups.io it looks as though previous moderators have lost their moderator status. Please let me know if you were a moderator and I’ll restore this.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI
www.sdr-radio.com

 


Recording and Playback in V3 - Suggestions

Bjarne Mjelde
 

What I would want:

Start a recording on the fly, no dialog box.

Set up scheduled recordings without having to build a Temporary Schedule (and then Activate Schedule). More efficient scheduling.

Start playback without “warning”, also for selecting new file.

Playback of single files within a chained recording.

Better layout of the Navigator Playback window.

Why:

Recording – on the fly:

The “Start Recording” dialog box is ok, but I would like to have the option to quick-start a recording, because very often, that’s what I need to do. A choice in Options?

Recording – scheduled:

The Definitions – New brings up a dialog box. I don’t quite see the need for a compulsory “Name” label. I would also suggest that it be possible to set Reminder to zero, i.e. no Reminder. When OK-ing this dialog box, the recording is set in Definitions, and I expected the scheduled recording to start running. It doesn’t. Instead, I need to build a Temporary Schedule (with 7 days as the minimum recurrence value), and then Activate Schedule. I do see the purpose of the Temporary Schedule, but I think the options here could be set in the Scheduler Definition dialog box, in combination with the Recurrence (days of the week) option.

In the Scheduler Definiton dialog box, there is a days recurrence choice. This is good. Very often recordings are set up at specific times, such as top of the hour or bottom of the hour. So, a choice for “Repeat hourly”, or better, check boxes for hours 1-24 would reduce the time with scheduling a lot.

Playback:

When opening a recording for playback, there is a dialog box that the radio must be stopped before a recording can be played. I don’t think this is needed – opening a file for playback is not something one does by accident, so the dialog box only slow things down. Alternatively, make the dialog box an option. This also applies to when a recording is being selected while another is running.

The Navigator opens the Playback window. Maybe the hours and minutes section could be rearranged a bit (underneath the controls?) to allow larger fonts. They are quite difficult to read. The “loop” function in Playback is quite nice, especially the option to select “Start +” with a user-defined loop length.

For chained recordings, it is apparently not possible to open a single file within the chain. The “Select Recording” dialog box only lists the first file of the chain. Btw it would be practical if that dialog box refreshed automatically.

I record a two-digit amount of terabytes of SDR reception on MW every season, and efficiency in recording and playback is vital to me. Based on what I've experienced over the years, these are my suggestions for the further development of V3.

--
Bjarne Mjelde
arcticdx.blogspot.com
Remote rx: kongsdr.ddns.net:8073


Re: Missing DLL files #sdrsharp

gautea@...
 

Hi, do NOT download the SDR-Console from "other" sites!
Although the SDRplay site at last have updated their "package", it is a combo of programs/API not needed for the Console.
Start here:
http://sdr-radio.com/Version-3/Getting-Started
You may also find updates, posted by Simon, in this group.
Good luck,
LB6YD Gaute


Moderators

Simon Brown
 

Hi,

 

With the move to groups.io it looks as though previous moderators have lost their moderator status. Please let me know if you were a moderator and I’ll restore this.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI
www.sdr-radio.com

 


Missing DLL files #sdrsharp

dennislt1@...
 

New to this site. Just downloaded SDR Console from the SDR Play website and am unable to run the program because its says I'm missing 4 different .dll files. Re-installed nurmerous times as suggested and still get the same messages. Anybody have any ideas.


Re: RS-918SSB - SDR Transceiver

Jeffrey Gray <jlgray.kr3ep@...>
 

The RS 918 is a Chinese made knockoff. It is an older version of Chris M0NKA McHF. Chris ver is ver .6. The 918 is M0NKAs McHF ver .4. To get the kit that Chris makes is at M0NKA.co.uk


Re: RS-918SSB - SDR Transceiver

Freeman Pascal
 

That appears to be a Chinese knock off of the mcHF transceiver. My v0.4 version is nearly complete. Just need to finish installing the PA and winding the coils.

The hardware is not opensource, though firmware is.  Please don't support eBay knockoffs.

For more info checkout, http://www.m0nka.co.uk/


-Freeman, N5FPP

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Simon Brown <simon@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I know little about this radio, set attached documents.

 

Transceiver Cost - $350

Shipping Cost - $30

Total Cost - $380

 

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI
www.sdr-radio.com

 



Re: RS-918SSB - SDR Transceiver

Jeffrey Gray <jlgray.kr3ep@...>
 

It is a chines knock off. Chris M0NKA designed it. His version is .6. The RS 918 is an older Ver .4. M0nka.co.uk is where you get the kit from the designer. The kit is cheaper.


Re: RS-918SSB - SDR Transceiver

jlgray.kr3ep@...
 

That rig is a chinese copy of a design by Chris M0NKA. Chris ver is a kit ver .6. The RS918 is a copy of Chris ver.4 . Chris never authorized the chinese to make his radio.