Thanks for the reply, Jose.� I choose "not." ;-)
You're right, opinions are like arses, everyone has one.� I just
disagreed with yours as yours aren't based on fact.� You tell us
what "everyone knows," yet display a lack of understanding of a
multiplexed FM signal.
IMHO, that proves a lot, I am sorry.� Try Wikipedia, they have a
pretty good explanation of broadcast FM.
73,
Russ
WB8ZCC
On 1/4/2011 7:39 PM, jose maria trueba wrote:
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Yes, everybody knows that our FM is +/5KHz deviation and
2.5 being the narrow mode.
No secret either that AM station channels are every 10KHz
in the U.S. and 9KHz in Europe. Right!
Nice to find a colleague here. I am working for a
broadcast radio, FM and AM and TV, since 1983. Not 30
years yet! You worked longer, but that not proves much, I
am sorry.
My numbers are right, believe or not. Just check a good FM
receiver, if you don't believe it. Take just one of your
RF generators and check bandwidths. You can even open the
lid of the receiver and read filter numbers. And think
about it twice, this time.
2011/1/4 Russ Hines <russ@...>
�
Well, having worked as a broadcast engineer
in the U.S. for nearly the last 30 years, all
I can say is... HUH?!?!?� I have no idea what
Jose's been smokin', but it must be REALLY
good. ;-)
I'm into versatility, but there is such a
thing called "mission creep," and I'm guessing
that's where this is going.�
For communications purposes, deviation for FM
is +/-5kHz is wide, +/- 2.5kHz is narrow.�
IMHO, 6kHz should work just dandy for both
full-carrier AM and wide FM.
But if you really want to include it, then for
U.S. broadcast, the channels for FM are 200kHz
wide, max modulating frequency is 15kHz, 100%
modulation is +/- 75kHz deviation, and all
subcarriers are AM modulated.� For the AM
broadcast band, the channels are 10kHz wide,
max modulating frequency is about 5kHz.� Now
that's assuming you don't incorporate IBOC
"HD" radio that you wouldn't be able to
include anyway unless you paid a horrendous
licensing fee to Ibiquity.
But if you're willing to go that far, how
about a incorporating an
ATSC/DVB/COFDM/16QAM/64QAM/FLO digital
television demod?�
See where mission creep can lead you.
;-)
Simon, your SDR Console is a really nice,
useful communications tool for SDR
enthusiasts, not a table top
radio/stereo/MP3/8-track
player/alarm-clock/coffee-maker.� I wouldn't
worry trying to make it all things to all
people because no one will ever be satisfied,
and a once-useful tool with promise will
become bloated and impossible to use.
Again, just IMHO.
73,
Russ
WB8ZCC
On 1/4/2011 3:03 PM, jose maria trueba wrote:
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Hi,
75KHz is the nominal frequency deviation
of a FM mono broadcast transmission, but
now all of them are using stereo mode,
adding two 38KHz sub-carriers. Mode is
called 256-f3 because
(75dev+38stereo+15max_audio_freq)x2
equals 256, nominal bandwidth.
Later they came with RDS, sub-carrier is
at 57KHz, resulting a max bandwidth of�
(57+75)x2 equal to 264, and filters
should be as wide 280KHz. There are some
330KHz filters to be used in cascade
with another one. I imagine that some
are that wide to give a margin for some
over-deviating transmissions.
Let us say that 280KHz@-6dB is a
reasonable bandwidth.
73's
Jose
2011/1/4 Simon
HB9DRV <simon@...>
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Hi,
�
No �I�ll maybe
add it very soon but
need help!
�
What bandwidths
are needed? For
broadcast I think it�s
100kHz, anyway let me
know what typical
bandwidths are needed
please.
�
You never know �
I may even add stereo J
�
�
�
�
I may of just
missed it,but does
sdr-radio support
Wide FM?
Rob
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